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Vermont Banned Fracking : 49 States to Go (Original Post) Bernie93 Jun 2016 OP
Doesn't Vermont have no natural gas reserves? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #1
that's not known. it is true that it has no proven reserves, but Exilednight Jun 2016 #2
I believe that perhaps the new "trade" agreements have provisions to overturn, ignore, or djean111 Jun 2016 #3
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
1. Doesn't Vermont have no natural gas reserves?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:45 AM
Jun 2016

While they are at it, they should ban offshore drilling in vermont as well.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
2. that's not known. it is true that it has no proven reserves, but
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:50 AM
Jun 2016

That's different than not having any reserves.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. I believe that perhaps the new "trade" agreements have provisions to overturn, ignore, or
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:03 AM
Jun 2016

even punish economically, sovereign nations or any other entity that dares to ban fracking or any other activity that produces profits.

This is just one source - anyone who seeks to deflect by questioning a source, just Google TPP fracking.

http://ecowatch.com/2015/03/26/obama-tpp-fracking-climate-change/

The cases are argued, tried and judged by a small, revolving group of elite corporate attorneys, taking turns playing the role of judge and prosecutor. The potential for conflicts of interest and secret handshakes exceeds even the current regulatory revolving door, in which industry lawyers, officials and consultants move into key positions in public agencies, alter governmental regulations in industry’s favor and then return to their bespoke industry.

Under the terms of the agreement, corporations would have the right to sue U.S. federal, state and local governments if regulations, laws or bans, for example, those protecting health or the environment, cause a reduction in the company’s future profits. Nobel Prize winning economist, Joseph Stiglitz, told a group gathered in Queens, New York last month, that New York’s fracking ban would be a likely candidate for a Tribunal suit, should these agreements be signed by the President.

If on the other hand, if fracking chemicals contaminated water aquifers, or if any corporation’s products, actions or activities engendered economic loss to say, U.S. citizens or businesses—or damaged health, lives, property, communities or public goods, such as our air, water, food or Earth—there would be no avenue for redress or compensation. Ordinary citizens or businesses would have no standing to sue, says Nader. “It would be thrown out.”

In other words, these are one-sided agreements with benefits flowing one way—to corporations, and unstoppable harm flowing the other way—towards the people and the Earth.


I will not be voting, ever, for anyone who shilled for the TPP (and/or TTIP and other "trade" agreements), or for anyone who voted yes on Fast Track, who votes Yes on the TPP (and others of its ilk) - or belongs to the Third Way-driven new Democrat Coalition. Bottom line. TPP enthusiasts should save their deflection and scorn for those who have not been watching this abomination for years.
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