2016 Postmortem
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/05/31/what-a-clinton-camp-memo-about-her-emails-tells-us/What a Clinton camp memo about her emails tells us
Since last year, Secretary Clinton has said her use of a personal email server was a mistake. And while there have been ongoing reviews of this matter, the completion of the Inspector Generals examination gets us one step closer to resolving this.
While the rules surrounding use of a personal email account were clarified after Secretary Clinton left office and the Inspector General recommends the State Department take measures to even further clarify them the Secretary has once again acknowledged this was a mistake. And she has taken responsibility for that mistake including in many interviews shes done since the reports release.
That is three uses of mistake in two short paragraphs, maybe a record for her. The memo tells us a number of things about Clinton and her campaign:
1. She is finally willing to drop the claim that predecessors did the same thing. She believed she was following the practices of other Secretaries and senior officials (emphasis added) is now the operative explanation.
2. That she is making such acknowledgments shows genuine concern in her camp that her credibility is reaching critically low levels.
3. Exactly who in the Clinton camp, maybe Podesta himself, was finally able to break through to her? Its not a good sign that it took so long, but it should remind her that her closest confidants do not necessarily have the best judgment and only reinforce her own weaknesses.
4. Podestas claim that she has taken unprecedented steps to ensure public access to her emails providing the Department with all of her work-related emails, totaling 55,000 pages, and calling for their release still overlooks one giant problem with the whole setup: Clinton destroyed tens of thousands of emails on the grounds they were personal; well never know whether they were really about yoga classes or about more important issues.
5. The explanation of convenience still makes no sense. What she thought would be a convenient way to communicate with family, friends and colleagues by using one email account for both her work related and personal emails has turned out to be anything but convenient. If she could go back, shed do it differently. First, we are talking about putting work on a private server, not merely sharing an account. Second, in her own statements she has hinted at the real reason: She didnt want others gaining access to her emails. In other words, she was evading possible oversight by Congress as well as Freedom of Information Act laws.
6. Barring an FBI finding of criminal conduct to support a prosecution, Podesta is likely right that voters will look at the full picture of everything she has done throughout her career. If voters disliked her before, they will have further reason to after this; if they were willing to cut her slack, it is unlikely to turn supporters away.
7. The best thing she has going for her, as Podesta notes, is Donald Trump (an unqualified loose cannon is within reach of the most powerful job in the world). In the grand scheme of things, Clinton will say, in effect: Which is worse my infamous desire for secrecy and penchant for digging in my heels, or an erratic narcissist who has no idea what hes talking about?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Her column at Washington Post is called "The Right Turn: My take from a conservative perspective".
Renew Deal
(81,855 posts)Judicial Watch, Breitbart, Town Hall are all good sources. DU, Daily Kos, etc are bad sources.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)As long as they say negative things about HRC.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)I hope you meditate or have some way of calming your emotions because this seems very unhealthy and strokes and heart attacks are real.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)"Which is worse my infamous desire for secrecy and penchant for digging in my heels, or an erratic narcissist who has no idea what hes talking about?"
I'll take door number one if presented with that choice, hopefully enough other voters would too.
Of course an indictment would blow that all to hell.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)It is troubling though that Podesta says this:
Have you seen the "many interviews she's done since the report's release?" All I've seen/heard is a phone in she gave to MSNBC or CNN. What did I miss? I had expected the Sunday shows to interview her, and maybe I missed it, but in my switching channels I didn't see an interview with her and since the news broke last Wednesday so Sunday shows would have been the venue for her.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)At least that is how it will be framed.
emulatorloo
(44,116 posts)dchill
(38,472 posts)to cover badly hemorrhaging criminal wounds. As first aid, it's not even a decent stop-gap.
dsc
(52,155 posts)was Goebells too busy being dead for you to use?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)On Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:41 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)But they both looooooove right-wing columnists like Jennifer Rubin.
Sid
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)You should maybe take a closer look at what right-wingers actually support.
Trump, for instance, has said he would rip up the Paris Accord, and that the Iran Deal was the worst deal the US ever negotiated in history.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Just because the GOP is far right it doesn't mean the moderate republicans of the past aren't democrats now. She like Obama and others are Rockefeller republicans that are in the democratic party.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I don't think it's worthwhile to try to hang a "spectrum" label on Trump at all. "Uninformed lunatic" doesn't really have a point on the political spectrum...
randome
(34,845 posts)The user has the discretion to decide if something is work-related or not. Citing Clinton's ability to delete personal emails as a stroke against her shows the partisan nature of the article. It makes no sense.
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Meteor Man
(385 posts)Analysis from Gaius Publius at Down With Tyranny:
Tuesday, May 31, 2016
Bernstein: The White House Is Terrified the Clinton Campaign "Is In Freefall"
Bernstein: There is a huge story going on. I've spent part of this weekend talking to people in the White House. They are horrified at how Hillary Clinton is blowing up her own campaign.
And they're worried that the Democrats could blow -- they are horrified that the whole business of the transcripts, accepting the money -- that she could blow the Democrats' chance for White House. They want her to win. Obama wants her to win.
But Sanders has shown how vulnerable she is. These ethical lapses have tied the White House up in knots. They don't know what to do. They're beside themselves. And now, you've got a situation with these transcripts a little like Richard Nixon and his tapes that he stonewalled on and didn't release.
This is the beginning of the end.
Bernstein: The implications of all of this [the email server issue] are that Hillary Clinton did not want her emails subjected to the Freedom of Information Act or subpoenas from Congress. And that's why she set up a home-brew server.
I think we all know that. People around her will tell you that in private if you really get them behind a closed door.
I was in Washington this week, I spoke to a number of top Democratic officials and they're terrified, including people at the White House, that her campaign is in free fall because of this distrust factor. Indeed, Trump has a similar problem, but she's the one whose numbers are going south.
If nominated as expected, Hillary may very well bring the Democratic Party down with her.
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/05/bernstein-white-house-is-terrified.html?m=1
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is that his real name?
Meteor Man
(385 posts)It's a nom de plume. He also posts at Digby's Hillabaloo:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/?m=0
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)His columns for months now are mostly wishful thinking.
Meteor Man
(385 posts)At the end of most of his posts:
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UPDATE: Miami's Mayor Tomás Regalado Weights In On Herr Trumpf
Miami-Dade has been rapidly trending Democratic. Obama won every congressional district in the county except Diaz-Balart's and last time he came close enough in Diaz-Balart's (1%) to predict that Hillary or Bernie would win it in November. Trump's anti-immigrant/anti-Hispanic hate speech goes over very poorly there. Dr. Valdes: "As a candidate for U.S. House of Representatives in the 25th district and, more importantly, as a Latina, I find Donald J. Trump's statements about Latinos and women extremely offensive. We are a diverse group of people who made America our homes from many different countries but the vitriol and contempt the Republican nominee for president has chosen to use goes beyond reason and common sense.
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/05/update-miamis-mayor-tomas-regalado.html?m=1
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)If they are as upset as he says, which I don't doubt, then to me that says they know the bigger indictment is coming, and soon.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)"Reveals Campaign Desperation..."
onenote
(42,694 posts)No, she speaks for herself, and her conservative pals. Who apparently now include Sanders' supporters.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Here's a hint: You can find lots of right-wing attacks on Hillary Clinton on the Internet. Not all of them deserve posting on DU, it seems to me.
blogs/right-turn in the URL should have been your clue.
amborin
(16,631 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)As a conservative and arguing she doesn't speak for the WaPo, does this article from the WaPo editorial board "The Post's View - Clintons inexcusable, willful disregard for the rules" work?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/clintons-inexcusable-willful-disregard-for-the-rules/2016/05/25/0089e942-22ae-11e6-9e7f-57890b612299_story.html
frylock
(34,825 posts)Ongoing reviews? How about ongoing INVESTIGATIONS? She's fucked, and they know it.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Have you no shame?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)been flushed down the toilet.