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Renew Deal

(81,844 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:32 PM Jun 2016

Assuming Hillary's lead remains at 270 on June 14, Bernie will need 493 superdelegates

That's 69% of all 714 supers. He currently is losing Supers 72-6.

This all assumes Hillary's lead doesn't expand from VI, PR, NJ, NM, CA, and DC.

So how is Bernie going to flip minimum 450 super-delegates?

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Assuming Hillary's lead remains at 270 on June 14, Bernie will need 493 superdelegates (Original Post) Renew Deal Jun 2016 OP
With magic DavidDvorkin Jun 2016 #1
I see that Renew Deal Jun 2016 #2
Shouldn't be a problem Dem2 Jun 2016 #3
Secretary Clinton will have the majority of Pledged Delegate .... BS wants to steal the nomination? SFnomad Jun 2016 #4
He's not going to. MineralMan Jun 2016 #5
The only way is if the FBI recommends charges against morningfog Jun 2016 #6
They aren't deciding the nomination this year either. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #9
That's inaccurate. morningfog Jun 2016 #10
Frankly- they are Hillary's to lose. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #7
He can't KingFlorez Jun 2016 #8
I wish they would but they won't Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #11

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
3. Shouldn't be a problem
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sure the supers will note his infallibility and change their minds.

Also, I've read on DU that the other candidate, can't think of her name, is a war criminal and white collar fraudster, corporatist bankster lover and an oligarch to boot. Seems Bernie has this one sewn up.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. The only way is if the FBI recommends charges against
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary and/or her staff.

Or some other scandal or health issue.

Supers won't flip based on GE polling nor should they. But Bernie should stay in and play it out. The fact is, we haven't had the supers decide a nomination since the super delegate process was installed. It could be interesting. And contrary to the pissing and moaning, it doesn't hurt our eventual nominee in the fall.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. They aren't deciding the nomination this year either.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jun 2016

No more than they did in 2008. Actually, they played a bigger role in 2008. If Sanders chooses to not concede, that doesn't somehow mean the superdelegates are deciding the nomination. It just means the convention meets the definition of "contested."

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
10. That's inaccurate.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary conceded in 2008 before the convention. We don't know what may have happened had she taken the case to the convention. A third of the super delegates voted for her despite the fact that she had conceded.

A contested convention means it's not over and will be decided by the super delegates during the floor vote.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
7. Frankly- they are Hillary's to lose.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jun 2016

Which given her poll numbers and her looming indictment, she seems quite capable of doing.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
11. I wish they would but they won't
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jun 2016

People keep bringing up charges from the FBI. Sure, that would do it but I have been hearing for 6 months "charges expected soon", "charges coming, possibly next week", "keep an eye on things this wednesday, it could be huge". And yet, nothing ever happens.

I think any chance of Sanders convincing superdelegates to switch passed a long time ago. The remaining superdelegates will probably come out in favor of clinton once her current PD and SD numbers pass the magic number and any hopes Sanders had will be long gone.

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