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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:32 AM Jun 2016

Jeff Weaver

Jeff Weaver has screwed up Bernie Sanders campaign pretty much as badly as Mark Penn screwed up Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign.

If Sanders had been able to put some competent management in place, he really would have had a shot at this thing.

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Jeff Weaver (Original Post) MohRokTah Jun 2016 OP
LOL, I said the same thing after watching Matthews dismantle Weaver. FSogol Jun 2016 #1
You rarely see Berners praise him CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #2
Mark Penn did not understand the rules of the Democratic primary in 2008 Larkspur Jun 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #5
Your ignorance and hatefulness are showing. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #26
... CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #27
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #29
It would seem yours is as well CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #31
What do you think he did wrong? oberliner Jun 2016 #4
I'd say abandoning the African-American vote following the S.C. debacle was a misstep Tarc Jun 2016 #22
Hillary's massive wins in the South proved to be impossible to overcome oberliner Jun 2016 #24
Too much time spent serving red meat, not enough time spent on broadening Bernie's coalition emulatorloo Jun 2016 #28
There is considerable truth in what you say. MineralMan Jun 2016 #6
Weaver's background floriduck Jun 2016 #8
This is his first national campaign. hack89 Jun 2016 #14
I'm just presenting his background since mineral man brought it up. MM is on a Weaver roll today. floriduck Jun 2016 #15
Give a few examples please AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #9
His handling of the DNC Data theft. MineralMan Jun 2016 #11
That isn't an answer. AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #16
You can find the details by using Google. MineralMan Jun 2016 #18
Which is exactly what Hillary supporters always say when asked to prove their assertions AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #20
Conservatives love to tell people to do their own research. frylock Jun 2016 #25
You mean the Bernie campaign firing the Data Director provided to them by the DNC? Larkspur Jun 2016 #32
That store is in Falls Church. I thought Weaver's comic shop was in DC? FSogol Jun 2016 #10
That's the one. MineralMan Jun 2016 #13
Falls Church is a Virginia suburb of DC. FSogol Jun 2016 #17
Yes. On the site, it tells you to walk a mile from the Metro stop. MineralMan Jun 2016 #19
burning thru $200 million to lose as bad as bernie has lost and having little competence on top of beachbum bob Jun 2016 #7
Bernies campaign was brilliantly run AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #12
media pretending bernie didn't exist worked in his favor, imagine had the media vetted bernie beachbum bob Jun 2016 #21
No, it didn't work in his favor AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #23
I don't know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #30

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
1. LOL, I said the same thing after watching Matthews dismantle Weaver.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jun 2016

I wonder how Sander's campaign would have gone if he had better managers than Weaver and Devine.

Those guys are laughably inept.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2107272
 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
3. Mark Penn did not understand the rules of the Democratic primary in 2008
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jun 2016

He thought that it was run like the Republican primaries, winner take all. He never understood that it was a proportional delegate allotment.

Weaver understood the rules and considering that Bernie has succeeded farther than any previous insurgent, I'd say Weaver did an extraordinary job. Bernie had very little Democratic Establishment support and hardly any Big Money donors. But he was able to get millions of donations form small donors that helped him defeat HRC in many states.

This just proves how horrible a candidate HRC is. She never thought Bernie would remain in the race til the end. She thought she would have a coronation, not a fight. Now, she needs to develop a strategy to unify the Party and not take Bernie's supporters for granted. Trashing and disrespecting Bernie will only make the GE more difficult for HRC, who has very low approval ratings. She is only fortunate that Trump's approval numbers a lower than hers, but in swing states, that may not be enough to help her win.

Response to Larkspur (Reply #3)

Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #27)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Hillary's massive wins in the South proved to be impossible to overcome
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jun 2016

I wonder if Bernie had competed harder there if he could have made it closer.

Imagine if we were going into next week with only a 50 pledged delegate lead for Hillary.

It would be absolutely crazy around here that's for sure!

emulatorloo

(44,109 posts)
28. Too much time spent serving red meat, not enough time spent on broadening Bernie's coalition
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jun 2016

I wish Devine and Weaver's roles had been reversed. Devine had national campaign experience, Weaver didn't.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. There is considerable truth in what you say.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie picked an amateur for a job that required a professional with extensive experience. Comic shop owners needn't apply.

http://www.victorycomics.com/

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
8. Weaver's background
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jun 2016

Weaver's first role as a campaign staffer was in 1986 when he worked for Bernie Sanders's gubernatorial campaign as an Independent. Weaver served as a driver for Sanders.[1][5]

In 1987, one year after his involvement with the Sanders gubernatorial campaign, Weaver launched a campaign of his own, running for St. Albans City Ward 4 alderman. He was 21 years old and known locally for his efforts to register new voters. In 1990, Weaver challenged incumbent St. Albans mayor Ron Firkey for his seat. Weaver ran as an Independent and lost with 40% of the vote. In conceding the race, he said, "People haven't seen the last of Jeff Weaver."[1][2]

Weaver was a staffer for Sanders' successful 1990 congressional race. Following the race, he worked as a legislative assistant, eventually working his way up to chief of staff. Weaver later managed Sanders' successful 2006 Senate campaign and served as chief of staff.[2]

In 2009, following his role as Sanders' Senate chief of staff, Weaver left the political scene to run a comics and gaming store, Victory Comics, in Falls Church, Virginia.[1][10][11]

In May 2015, after a break from politics, Weaver was appointed campaign manager for Sanders' presidential campaign.[2][12]

The New York Times describes Weaver as "a long-trusted adviser to Mr. Sanders, who has developed a reputation inside and outside his campaign as a hard-charging operative often willing to go further than the candidate himself," and still very much "a Marine."[13]

Weaver writes and sends out subscription-based emails from the Bernie Sanders 2016 presidential campaign to those who have signed up to receive them. In the emails, he writes about the campaign and asks for contributions.[14]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Weaver_(staffer)


 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
15. I'm just presenting his background since mineral man brought it up. MM is on a Weaver roll today.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
16. That isn't an answer.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

How specifically did mr Weaver screw that up? Details please?

Or are you just jumping on a bandwagon?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
20. Which is exactly what Hillary supporters always say when asked to prove their assertions
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jun 2016

You have no answer. So you do this

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
32. You mean the Bernie campaign firing the Data Director provided to them by the DNC?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jun 2016

You mean that was wrong?

They handled that situation as best they could. Schultz should be fired as DNC Chair long ago. Her bias towards HRC was what caused lots of problems and is still creating problems with uniting the party post primary.

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
10. That store is in Falls Church. I thought Weaver's comic shop was in DC?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jun 2016

Are you sure that's his store? It's only been there 6-some years?

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
17. Falls Church is a Virginia suburb of DC.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

Falls Church has 2 metro stops and that store is between them. Probably one and half miles.
My old office was about 2 blocks from there.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
7. burning thru $200 million to lose as bad as bernie has lost and having little competence on top of
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jun 2016

it...to do the simple things well...like google each state's primary rules BEFORE the primary...and get that info out to your followers instead of trying to cover up your incompetence by blaming hillary, DNC...and anyone else...rules AREN'T if time was actually spent to find out what they were


jeff weaver is a shameful excuse of a campaign manager....sanders either is cluless to how to select top people or disinterested or just plain incompetent himself...or all 3

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. Bernies campaign was brilliantly run
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jun 2016

Considering he had the media pretending he didn't exist, and the Democratic party actively seeking to sink him they whole time

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
21. media pretending bernie didn't exist worked in his favor, imagine had the media vetted bernie
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jun 2016

in the first few months of his history of rants against everything...his declared pacifism....his wife handling of Burlington college


best thing that happened..the media ignored him

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
30. I don't know ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jun 2016

sometimes, one has to play the hand the person that hires you, deals you.

Since, I view, the decision to eschewing of the (President) Obama coalition in favor of attracting the "working class", as the Sanders campaign's strategic fatal flaw ... and that strategy was fully formed back in 2012, I suspect Weaver was just playing the hand he was dealt.

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