2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy California Now Matters So Much to Bernie Sanders and the Entire Democratic Party
Steven Rosenfeld
AlterNet
When you run using language like this is a revolution, you have to expect a few revolutionaries will show up, said Deb Kozikowski, a superdelegate from Massachusetts and vice-chair of that states Democratic Party, reached by phone on Tuesday.
Kozikowski said that superdelegates and party officials like her were paying careful attention to what was going on with Sanders. She said that Sanders had to ask each state party to put him on the primary or caucus ballot, which they did after he pledged to not bolt and run as a third-party candidate, and also after pledging that he would support the eventual nominee.
The thinking in Democratic Party circles at that time was that perhaps Sanders would get four or five percent of the delegates, she said, and his eventual embrace of the nominee would help contribute to a winning margin in November. Nobody, she said, foresaw his popularity, his messages power, nor how angry the electorate has become. Nobody ever figured he was good for more than 4 to 5 percent, but hes at 40 to 45 percent [of the delegates].
Kozikowski, who is 61, said she hoped that his supporters and delegates would come to see that change is possible and laudable if it comes in smaller increments than Sanders seekswhich, obviously, is what she sees in Hillary Clinton.
But Sanders supporters on Tuesday said almost the oppositethat more sweeping change is what is needed now, and that the Democratic Party should welcome the energy and vision of their candidate and his messengers.
We arent going there to be window dressing at the convention, said Sanders national convention delegate Jones. We arent going there to hold up signs and show unity We are going there because we are principled and as long as Bernie is running in the race, hes our candidate.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Not a chance in hell the supers will ever change. Not happening.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)she recently added to her schedule.
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)and that winning CA would help her in that regard.
Sanders can't win the nomination so the only thing CA will do for him is stroke his ego and hurt Clinton.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Every exit is a U-turn to California.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Maybe they're in his other pants?
DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)Maybe he can use his leftover millions to buy a new calculator.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)to keep his revolution alive
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)They'll buy his new line of leisure wear . . .
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Hillary won this thing months ago.
I tried to tell you guys, but #BernieMath wouldn't let many folks see the reality.
Triana
(22,666 posts)These are the out-of-touch words of one of the Democratic establishment's leaders.
There you go.
They don't see their own voters. You know, the non-millionaire ones. The non-dollar bill ones. The PEOPLE.
"Nobody foresaw..."
Where the HELL have they been?
vintx
(1,748 posts)Good question
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I know it was in the last 15 years or so, someone famous said it.
I wish I had a better memory.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)They didn't see him coming.
They thought that Hillary would be crowned back in 2008.
Didn't happen.
Will never happen.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)You can usually replace it with the words "I didn't see.."
I have an older neighbor who says stuff like that all the time. Whatever he has newly discovered or changed his position on, he will attribute to "everybody." It is kind of cute when he does it. Not so much for the MSM.
Retrograde
(10,129 posts)for something other than a fundraiser priced out of range for most voters. It makes us feel like were almost as important as Iowans or New Hampshirites.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)The polls don't close in CA until 11pm east cost time, so if he wins, many people will be asleep by then. The Wednesday papers will focus on the fact that we finally have our two presumptive nominees. And Hillary's campaign has plans in place for major endorsements starting on Wednesday morning. (This from one of her policy advisers who was the speaker at a fundraising breakfast on Thursday.) When Obama, Biden, Warren, Carter, Gore, etc. start endorsing Hillary, the media will have no choice but to cover those speeches, and everyone will soon forget that there was even a primary in CA.