If Sanders isn't allowed to speak at convention his 2,000 delegates should walk out and join

[imagine2015]

tens of thousands of Bernie supporters in the streets demanding that the convention officialdom let Bernie be heard.

That plan might force them to behave democratically and let Bernie speak.

[Fawke Em]

1. Psstt... they're planning to walk anyway.

[seabeyond]

2. Lol, my gosh the two year old mentality, threatening with an embarrassing tantrum to get his way.

Too fuckin' funny. You know what the parent does, right? Ignore and walk away, get on with life. No attention at all. This is really what you want Sanders to degrade himself to? Threatening and blackmailing to get his way, because he is so fuckin special or something.

[chascarrillo]

4. I bet you say the same thing to striking union workers, too, when they walk off the job.

No, really, given Clinton's corporate conservatism, I really think you do.

[seabeyond]

7. This is not a job. They are not striking for better conditions. That you would compare it to that

again signifies the privileged and entitlement of a tantrum.

[libdem4life]

31. Potty mouth aside, a political statement is not a tantrum...

especially when millions are behind it.

Second grade mentality.

[seabeyond]

34. You have a potty mouth? want to use a potty mouth? What chu talkin' 'bout. There is a time and a

place and the convention is not about him and his political statement. Or a tantrum if he does not get his way.

[libdem4life]

38. Ok, then.

[jberryhill]

3. In what way would such a thing "force" anyone to do anything?

[imagine2015]

5. Perhap that pressure will exceed the pressure exerted by Wall Street and big corporations on the DNC

[jberryhill]

13. What pressure?

Someone's going to say, "Oh, hey, there's a bunch of people in FDR Park across Broad Street from the convention, I guess we better re-arrange the speaking schedule"?

This is magical thinking.

[imagine2015]

19. What pressure from big business and Wall Street? Well, they are funding the convention.

Isn't that right.

And I don't think the DLC would like to see a convention walkout and demonstration of tens of thousands of people protesting Wall Street and corporate funding and control of the convention covered live by all the mass media and the internet.

Excluding Sanders and keeping a muzzle on him certainly would not result in Democratic election "unity" if Clinton captures the nomination.

Don't you agree.

[jberryhill]

20. I don't think it would have any effect on anything at all

Here's a bunch of people who want to make abortion illegal:



They do it every year:



I personally don't give a shit how many people they can assemble for a protest. Do you?

Is there some magic number of people who can assemble in a street that hits the threshold of "we better do what they say?"

[HubertHeaver]

6. That was the line of reasoning pursued at the Democratic Convention in Charleston.

"Lets bolt the party. They'll come beg us to return."

[Sheepshank]

8. I suppose...

...to Make it fair, Hillary should have even better prime speaker slot since she has more delegates, before the votes are formally cast.

[imagine2015]

23. I agree with you. Hillary should also be a prime-time speaker since she has 54% of delegates.

[libdem4life]

39. Screw the 47 percent. That'll show 'em.

[NCTraveler]

9. Your crystal balls are weighing you down. nt.

[hrmjustin]

10. Of course he will get a speaking slot. To n8t give him one is stupid and harmful to the party.

[lunamagica]

14. It depends. If he hasn't conceded before the convention, it'd be absurd to give him a slot

for him to give his stump speech, just a couple of days before Hillary gives her acceptance speech.

So it depends on weather or not he concedes. If he come to unify the party against Trump, he will be more than welcomed

[hrmjustin]

15. The president needs to tell him to end it Wednesday.

[lunamagica]

17. Absolutely. Enough of him demanding to change the rules for his benefit

[imagine2015]

24. Hillary should also be given a prime-time slot even if she hasn't conceded or withdrawn from race.

[hack89]

28. The nominee speaks last. After the vote

There will no campaigning at the convention.

[lunamagica]

30. It's never been done that way

[warrprayer]

27. "Depends on weather"

Freudian slip!

[beachbumbob]

11. Go for it...proves what we been saying all long about sanders character

A speaking position at the convention is earn by respect of our rules

[Arkansas Granny]

12. Honest question. Is it customary for candidates to speak at the convention before

the vote is taken? I don't know what the protocol is.

[lunamagica]

16. No, it is not. The convention is not a place for campaign speeches. It's a place for the party

to unite after the nominee.

[imagine2015]

25. There is no Democratic party rule prohibiting such speeches. The DNC can decide.

It depends upon how much they really desire unity against Trump if the candidate nominated is likely to be either Bernie or Clinton.

[LonePirate]

18. When has a significant primary contender never been allowed to speak at the convention?

That has not happened in a very, very long time. It won't be happening this year, either. O'Malley and Sanders will both be allowed to address the convention in prime time if they wish to do so.

Where are people coming up with this crazy conspiratorial garbage - and it is garbage - that Bernie won't be allowed to speak at the convention? Not only that, but why are people so damn stupid and gullible to believe such nonsense?

[jberryhill]

21. +1

[lunamagica]

33. They all speak after they conced

[tandem5]

22. Why is it so important that he be acknowledged by those he and his supporters publicly despise?

Sanders insists that we should not work within a system that's broken yet by his own admission he has chosen to use the resources of the Democratic party because it was the only way to be an effective candidate.

[imagine2015]

29. Bernie has used the "resources of the Democratic Party"? No. He's been funded by millions .....

of voters and not the Wall Street tycoons and corporate executives funding the other candidate.

And these same fat cats are funding the resources of the Democratic Party convention!

[libdem4life]

35. And his "recently activated" group of the "formerly sick and tired" are

growing and can easily resort to currently sick and tired and back to usual.

You don't beat people into actively promoting a message or a product.

Oh, and he was welcomed into the party as a foil for HRH. No one else had the cojones, i.e. Establishment Democrats. Just that it got out of hand when people finally listened, took note, and agreed with him and his "same old, same old" speech.

There is no such thing in HillarySpeak. It writes itself on a daily, focus group, basis.

[tandem5]

43. My point exactly. The establishment is Republican and Democrat. He should've run as an Independent.

He brings in large crowds so why does he need the forum of the convention when that type politics is what he's rallying against?

It is supposed to be a no compromise approach, but speaking at the convention, influencing the party platform to bring about slow incremental change? -- It's a cop out of the highest order.

What's next? Will he stump for Hillary Clinton? If his message is screw the establishment then it should be SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, we answer to nobody but ourselves and we are going to start our own party and exact real change.

[MyNameGoesHere]

26. I support Sanders walk of shame. Eom

[CrowCityDem]

32. As long as he isn't still trying to steal the nomination, of course he will speak.

[randome]

40. Duh! Why would he not?

OP is an epic straw man.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[CrowCityDem]

42. I think it goes to a post I made earlier...

recapping where Bernie's manager said they were planning to use his speaking slot to make the case to the superdelegates to flip to him the night before the final vote. I said if they don't rule that out, he shouldn't be allowed to speak.

[Txbluedog]

36. If Sanders doesn't speak at the convention it will be due to his choice not to do so

[libdem4life]

37. The hubris of "misunderestimating".

[brush]

41. Come on, time to stop creating imaginary protest scenarios against the "establishment"

Of course Sanders is going to speak, probably to nominate Clinton by acclamation as she did for Obama in '08.

It's time to stop fighting the Democratic "establishment", as Sanders has called himself doing for the last several weeks, and began fighting the real enemy — Trump and the repugs.