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Robert Sandy @frodofied 51m51 minutes agoThe PRESS responds to Hillary's EPIC speech today, and it is awesome. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/2
from Daily Kos:
___ The press and blogosphere reacted to the speech, and it has been awesome to behold...
Hillarys speech today has resonated strongly across the press and media landscape, and it is almost exclusively positive. This seems like a watershed speech, a moment in time when the General Election truly started, and it starts off fittingly with a righteous take down of Donald Trump.
DailyKos: Hillary Clinton guts Donald Trump, cuts remains into cubes, tosses what's left in trash
[link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-donald-trump_us_57508150e4b0eb20fa0d31f9|
Huffington Post]: Hillary Clinton Eviscerates Donald Trump In Her Best Speech Yet
TIME: Hillary Clinton Tears Into Donald Trump on Foreign Policy, Temperament
Washington Post: Hillary Clinton just proved she is very good at taunting Donald Trump
CNN: Hillary Clinton's evisceration of Donald Trump
New York Magazine: Hillary Clinton Argues That Giving Nuclear Codes to Ill-tempered Ignoramus Would Be Mistake
Rolling Stone: 10 Times Clinton Roasted Trump in Her Latest Speech
Cosmopolitan: The 13 Best Lines From Hillary Clinton's Blistering Speech About Donald Trump
Vox: Hillary Clinton rolled out the anti-Trump argument that could deliver a landslide
PoliticusUSA: Hillary Clinton Just Turned Trump Into A National Joke In Epic Foreign Policy Smackdown
Slate: Clinton Bluntly Mocks Trumps Foreign Policy Ideas Simply by Restating Them
Vox: Hillary Clinton just made her best case against Donald Trump
Slate: Hillary Clinton Just Kicked Trump in the Shins
Politico: Hillary goes nuclear on Trump
Business Insider: Hillary Clinton just delivered one of her strongest arguments yet against Donald Trump
New York Daily News: Hillary Clinton beats Donald Trump to a deserved pulp: She exposes him as a dangerous and unstable would-be commander in chief
The New Republic: Donald Trump has never looked weaker
The Daily Banter: Hillary Revealed Her Plan of Attack Against Trump, and It's Kinda Perfect
Reuters: Clinton casts Trump as dangerous clown in caustic speech on foreign policy
[link:http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-roasts-donald-trump-biggest-zingers|
MSNBC]: Clinton Roasts Trump in Foreign Policy Speech: The 13 Biggest Zingers
The Stranger.com: Let's Watch Hillary Clinton's Speech On National Security, AKA Her Speech Ripping Donald Trump Several Dozen New A**holes
The New Civil Rights Movement.com: Hillary Clinton Destroyed Donald Trump in Her Speech Today Here Are a Few of Her Best Clips
Simon Rosenberg @SimonWDC 7h7 hours ago
My take: "it was arguably Clintons most compelling public moment of the entire campaign so far" http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/did-clinton-just-finally-figure-out-how-hit-trump
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)msongs
(67,394 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)GG was quite upset Hillary was being so mean to Don the Con.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)The only people listening to him already have their minds made up and aren't interested in anything much that might counter their biases. He's no longer a factor in national politics.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the smart ones are seeing what a winner looks like.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)I know you're unhappy that he reminded everyone that HRC screwed up on the Iraq war, but that wasn't about her speech.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)A lot of Bernie supporters, even here on DU, said they liked it a lot.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Hekate
(90,643 posts)It was a great speech. And -- she's off! Let the General Election begin!
Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)Writers and reporters enthusiastic assessment of a foreign policy "speech" that proposed no policy.
Sure it sounds great!! The 5-10 second blurbs for the cable news shows are awesome....but it wasn't a speech....it was barely an address.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Hillary's been historically bad at producing "soundbite" quotes, preferring to explain things in detail, which her critics lambaste her for as "waffling". But when she makes the most "soundbite" speech possible, guaranteeing coverage on every major news network for the next week and giving a wealth of material to use for ads, she's criticised for that too.
brush
(53,764 posts)She's off and running.
Bernie, you coming?
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)But then, they seem to be on the same side a rather alarmingly lot these days.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Hillary Clinton Argues That Giving Nuclear Codes to Ill-tempered Ignoramus Would Be Mistake
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)Here are some excerpts from her speech yesterday:
"And if America doesnt lead, we leave a vacuum and that will either cause chaos, or other countries will rush in to fill the void. Then theyll be the ones making the decisions about your lives and jobs and safety and trust me, the choices they make will not be to our benefit.
That is not an outcome we can live with."
She will continue the current wars and promote the US 'policing' the rest of the world...
"Third, we need to embrace all the tools of American power, especially diplomacy and development, to be on the frontlines solving problems before they threaten us at home." ... "Now we must enforce that deal vigorously. And as Ive said many times before, our approach must be distrust and verify. The world must understand that the United States will act decisively if necessary, including with military action, to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. In particular, Israels security is non-negotiable. Theyre our closest ally in the region, and we have a moral obligation to defend them."
When did the US need to become more imperialistic? when did this become a progressive / liberal position?
"Fifth, we need a real plan for confronting terrorists. As we saw six months ago in San Bernardino, the threat is real and urgent. Over the past year, Ive laid out my plans for defeating ISIS.
We need to take out their strongholds in Iraq and Syria by intensifying the air campaign and stepping up our support for Arab and Kurdish forces on the ground."
Now she's throwing Obama under the bus? 'we need a real plan for confronting terrorists'? Obama doesn't have a real plan being acted upon currently?
"And one more thing. A President has a sacred responsibility to send our troops into battle only if we absolutely must, and only with a clear and well-thought-out strategy. Our troops give their all. They deserve a commander-in-chief who knows that."
Where does Libya fall into the category of 'well thought out'?
I'm tired of wars that lack planning in the aftermath, the conclusion and reconstruction...
I'm tired of $$ being tossed out the window without clarity and an audit
I'm tired of lack of reporting on the longest war the US has ever been involved in...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)'Does her speech make you question the platform policy of war hawk she's proposing?'
To your pivot, I'd answer with neither... I'd NOT vote based upon both their positions on this single issue
Are you a single issue voter? Or can DEM folks be critical of candidates when their issues don't match up with DEM party positions?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Yes, I will vote for the general election candidate who isn't a fascist.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)fascism isn't a single issue, but nice try
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)If that were the case HRC wouldn't be pointing out other issues, but she is so there's that to contend with as opposing your point
why you or any DEM would be embracing war hawk positions is stunning, then these pivots away from actual discussion on that point is telling
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)I see you're willing to shed your principles so easily, noted
what you claim as 'distractions' I claim are core elements of what DEM party stands for and against...
war hawk is not a DEM core element, are you suggesting it is?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)
First Trump came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Muslim
Then Trump came for the Hispanics, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Hispanic.
Then Trump came for the Asians, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Asian.
Then Trump came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)DEM party is being co-opted by war hawks and your intellectual dishonesty is noted
Have a day!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Trump is just more blatant about it.
I'd prefer we ALSO make a break with the under-the-table Corporate Ruthlessness form of Fascism, as well as the obvious form that Trump represents.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)DU is different from the real world.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)With some subtle NeoConservativism thrown in for good measure
Hokie
(4,286 posts)I am glad to see the response was so positive. Often Hillary doesn't deliver speeches as well as President Obama but this one was her best work. We need to see this Hillary more often. I think we will.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)She did what 16 republican candidates for nomination.. could not do.. put back on Donald Trump his own words and hold him accountable.. wtg
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)showed important clips from her speech and contrasted them with Trump's weak "she needs to go to jail" non-response. There is no mistaking the effect of her speech in San Diego. She has exposed Donald Trump for the low-vocabulary, low-idea buffoon that he is.
I hope she continues to attack Trump in similar ways on all important issues, not just foreign affairs. I'm sure she will be greatly encouraged by the reception of yesterday's speech and will extend that to her other speeches.
Trump simply doesn't have the intelligence or the vocabulary to counter Hillary. He's a fool, an idiot and a clown. Easy prey for Hillary Clinton.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)But, where's FAUX News? Bwahahaha!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Has a certain ring to it.