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YouDig

(2,280 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:31 AM Jun 2016

Please spare us the stupidity that the media is biased against Bernie.

The media is so anti-Hillary it's not even funny. First, they obsess constantly over the email story that was never anything and will never be anything. And the same Berners complaining about the media know this because the post 8000 media stories about the emails every day.

And then, for months the media have been pretending that this is an actual contest when it's been over since March. Bernie's been able to take advantage of that pretty well too. Every time there's a new "super Tuesday" Bernie acts like it's going to be the decisive day of the primaries. Then he gets his ass kicked and totally forgets about how the last one was supposed to be decisive, now it's the next "super Tuesday" that is the real important one, and the media lap it up.

Remember New York? For weeks Bernie went around saying he was going to win New York and that would be the decisive state. He got destroyed in New York, of course, but it wouldn't even matter if he had won. Hillary could have lost New York and still easily won the nomination. The whole thing has been a false narrative, he's lost over and over and the media keep giving him "do-overs".

It's not that the media is evil, it's that they want ratings. Hyping up Clinton non-scandals are good for ratings. Pretending that the Democratic primary hasn't been over for months is good for ratings. What's not good for ratings is the boring truth: Hillary effectively clinched in March and the emails are a small red-tape infraction that people only care about because the media is obsessed with it.

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Please spare us the stupidity that the media is biased against Bernie. (Original Post) YouDig Jun 2016 OP
you contradict yourself GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #1
Weird response. Are you scared of actually saying what this "contradiction" is? YouDig Jun 2016 #2
cognitive dissonance reddread Jun 2016 #5
Was that an abstract poem? YouDig Jun 2016 #6
depends on your reading level reddread Jun 2016 #8
It has been so obvious for a long time, she continued and the results show Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #3
Both Trump and Sanders are compliments of the media seeking ratings. The irony is, the more Trust Buster Jun 2016 #4
The irony is, the more people heard Trump and Sanders speak, the less the people liked them. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #25
Then why does Sanders have a net positive? Democratic voters who are JRLeft Jun 2016 #43
Nope, no bias here...move along. Snarkoleptic Jun 2016 #7
Guess the graphs and lines and things were too much for the that great big OP, snark... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #21
I guess I don't need to hold this one back any longer then... Snarkoleptic Jun 2016 #23
That's one thorn in the craw when dealing with the of of a ego prime time host MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #29
This needs its own OP! pinebox Jun 2016 #44
This is the same mindset conservatives have about the media Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #9
same mind reddread Jun 2016 #10
You're talking about the Berners who are trying to blame the media for his crushing defeat. YouDig Jun 2016 #11
No, I'm directly addressing your own OP Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #12
And I'm addressing the Berners trying to blame the media for his crushing defeat. YouDig Jun 2016 #13
Please, re-read your OP... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #14
It's a response to the constant whines and excuses about the media from Berners. YouDig Jun 2016 #16
I don't make OP's on a dare... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #17
Not make one, just respond to it. If you're honest that is. We'll see. YouDig Jun 2016 #18
Give me a link, Sparky... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #19
I did. Here it is again. Your chance to show that you are honest. YouDig Jun 2016 #20
Nope. First off, that graphic shows individuals from one network... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #26
Ha! I knew it! When Berners talk about media bias, it's TOTALLY different. YouDig Jun 2016 #28
I always have voted for Democrats... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #30
Good for you. Fact is, the media in general is more friendly to Bernie and hostile to Hillary, as YouDig Jun 2016 #32
No hypocrisy at all. Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #38
You sure like saying *swoosh*, "Sparky", and that smilie. Cute. Like when my niece learns a new word YouDig Jun 2016 #42
That post says it all. I just saw a thread beating up people at Greek theater because Sanders failed seabeyond Jun 2016 #35
Heehee! Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #39
PUMA 2016 and not even as large as PUMA 2008. seabeyond Jun 2016 #40
Bernie started at 3% TheFarseer Jun 2016 #15
Early on he was given the royal treatment. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #22
A-friggin'-men! A massive K & R. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #24
Pro-Clinton Super PAC "Web Videos" Get News Media Free Ride... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #27
yep the media is biased against against Hillary just like the media is biased against Israel azurnoir Jun 2016 #31
bottom line is that HRC has gotten 25 years of negative publicity by the GOP & corporate media book_worm Jun 2016 #33
The Media in general is not biased against anyone rock Jun 2016 #34
"Please spare us the stupidity" that our criticism of Clinton is RW and/or sexist. Facts matter, JudyM Jun 2016 #36
Breitbart is right-wing, would you agree? YouDig Jun 2016 #37
Anti Hillary is not the same as pro Bernie MillennialDem Jun 2016 #41
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
5. cognitive dissonance
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jun 2016

you want to pretend there is more than one kind of MSM.
what you know or think may or may not be a factor in what you
are trying to put across,
but it is somewhat charming that Clinton supporters have a hard time
with certain issues and historical aspects, making it difficult to post a coherent remark.
assuming, of course that their oversights are simply a mistake.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. It has been so obvious for a long time, she continued and the results show
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:01 AM
Jun 2016

The voters thinks differently.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
4. Both Trump and Sanders are compliments of the media seeking ratings. The irony is, the more
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jun 2016

people heard Trump and Sanders speak, the less the people liked them. Sanders got a ton of media coverage leading up to the New York primary. And that's when his momentum started to slow down. He seemed like a grouchy old man in New York. The media started to actually ask him difficult questions.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
43. Then why does Sanders have a net positive? Democratic voters who are
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jun 2016

do not have time to research politicians pick Hillary because name recognition. Her record is a disaster.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
23. I guess I don't need to hold this one back any longer then...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jun 2016

Especially telling when you watch his eyes as he seems to be receiving negative feedback from someone (Comcast censor/producer?) to his left.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
9. This is the same mindset conservatives have about the media
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jun 2016

They always cry "liberal media!" because the media DARES to report negative stories about Republicans/Conservatives. Well, they also report POSITIVE stories, equally (because I read them all the time). This is how Faux News came into being.

Just because the media DARES to report negative stories about Secretary Clinton (and also report POSITIVE stories since I read them all the time) then the media must be in the tank for her opponents.

Yes, the media is about ratings. It has to be because that's what pays their bills.

Do you want a media outlet that does nothing but praise Secretary Clinton? Then, start your own version of Faux News...

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
14. Please, re-read your OP...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:53 AM
Jun 2016

One long whine about how the media is soooooo mean to Secretary Clinton.

You only mentioned Senator Sanders in your subject line as a comparison tactic. In that, you failed.

...and your transparency page is showing. Not good for someone here since only April. I suggest that you should read this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
16. It's a response to the constant whines and excuses about the media from Berners.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jun 2016

Like this one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512120989

So if you're honest in this, you'll go post in that thread too about how Berners whining about the media are just like right-wingers.

We'll see.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
26. Nope. First off, that graphic shows individuals from one network...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jun 2016

Who have INDEED been biased towards Secretary Clinton (not Chris Hayes - not sure why he's included). Again, I watch almost all of those shows (except for Andrea Mitchell because I'm at work during her show) and, because both Tweety and Rachel are VERY close to the DNC establishment (something they wouldn't deny), a DNC led by one of the most un-Democratic chairpersons I can ever recall (and I've been in this rodeo since '72), Wasserman-Schultz, their bias is against anyone who might challenge that establishment in any way, like Senator Sanders has done.

Nice try, but another fail. You're really racking them up there. Are you done reading the TOS yet?

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
28. Ha! I knew it! When Berners talk about media bias, it's TOTALLY different.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

I love the TOS. Especially the part about voting for Dems. How do you feel about voting for Dems?

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
30. I always have voted for Democrats...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jun 2016

Always. I first became involved with the Democratic Party in 1972, when I stuffed envelopes and handed out campaign lit for Senator George McGovern at the age of 7 (and repeated that for Jimmy Carter 2x). My first POTUS vote was for Walter Mondale in 1984.

**On edit** I also voted for President Clinton 2x, his VP (for POTUS) and Secretary Clinton (for US Senator) in 2000, and again for Secretary Clinton in 2006 (and met and shook President Clinton's hand that year). Should Secretary Clinton get the nom in Philly, I will vote for her in November as well.

Your OP made no mention of specific media personalities, just the media in general (nor did you link in that post that contains the graphic in question). I responded to your OP, and your challenge to judge the graphic that set you off. I judged it to be (almost) accurate (I haven't seen CH showing bias one way or another, and I watch him every night). Sorry, but it just is.

You love the TOS? Love must be making you blind since you appear to not absorbed much from it. 5 hides in a month and a half kinda proves that, Sparky...

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
32. Good for you. Fact is, the media in general is more friendly to Bernie and hostile to Hillary, as
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jun 2016

I detailed in the OP. The idea that those people at MSNBC are anti-Bernie is just another of the many delusional excuses that Berners have made for their failed campaign. And you've shown your hypocrisy clearly by accusing me of being like conservatives when discussing media bias and then doing it yourself.

Glad you'll be voting for Hillary in November.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
38. No hypocrisy at all.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jun 2016

All my responses went *swoosh*, clear over your head. I made my points. You failed to comprehend them on any basic level.

Thanks for playing, Sparky!

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
42. You sure like saying *swoosh*, "Sparky", and that smilie. Cute. Like when my niece learns a new word
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jun 2016
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
35. That post says it all. I just saw a thread beating up people at Greek theater because Sanders failed
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jun 2016

to be org which translated to Greek theater picking on and abusing them. They so easily smear and harm reputations without facts.

Sanders has transferred his lifetime chip on the should to his supporters.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
39. Heehee!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

Another one that needs to read the TOS. 13???

Oh, and do you comprehend that you, and others from Camp Weathervane who have also been misbehaving, are actually chasing AWAY potential votes for Secretary Clinton in November?

Think about that...

TheFarseer

(9,317 posts)
15. Bernie started at 3%
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:55 AM
Jun 2016

And Hillary had about 100% name recognition so saying almost anything about an election is going to help the 3% guy. So 24 hour political TV should never say anything about a presidential election to avoid being biased - brilliant. Btw, for about 2 months when they talk about the election, it's to ask when will Bernie drop out, so I don't think that is meant to be favorable.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. Early on he was given the royal treatment.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:06 AM
Jun 2016

The have more recently started treating him like they treat Clinton and other democrats.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
27. Pro-Clinton Super PAC "Web Videos" Get News Media Free Ride...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jun 2016
The super PAC Correct the Record takes advantage of an “Internet exemption” rule, creating videos that look and sound like campaign ads, but are posted on its website and social media accounts. The rule exempts the videos from regulation. A recent anti-Trump video created by Correct the Record was aired 18 times for free on CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC. A typical spot run during commercial breaks on these networks costs upward of $25,000.


Light that one up and smoke it.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
31. yep the media is biased against against Hillary just like the media is biased against Israel
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jun 2016

or so we've been told

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
33. bottom line is that HRC has gotten 25 years of negative publicity by the GOP & corporate media
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jun 2016

while Bernie has gotten along relatively mild media criticism.

rock

(13,218 posts)
34. The Media in general is not biased against anyone
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:15 AM
Jun 2016

Just biased against the truth if it costs them copy. I.e. they'll spin it any way you want (that makes them the most money). So, they're not biased against Sanders (as long as he'll draw ratings!).

JudyM

(29,204 posts)
36. "Please spare us the stupidity" that our criticism of Clinton is RW and/or sexist. Facts matter,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jun 2016

and she has demonstrated through her actions that she is makes abominable decisions, practices pay-to-play even with foreign policy/weapons sales, is a poster child for crony capitalism and campaign finance corruption, flaunts a double standard in following rules, shall I go on?

"Effective?" "Positive role model for young girls?" Please spare us the stupidity.

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