2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton Campaign Prescreened Comments Hillary Clinton's campaign reviewed or suggested introductory
remarks for college presidents and students ahead of her events.
In this Aug. 26, 2015, file photo, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton speaks about rural issues at the Des Moines Area Community College in Ankeny, Iowa. For Clinton, the presidential campaign has been about building an approachable image: She's often eschewed big arenas in favor of town halls, peppered her ads with personal stories and planned less-scripted gatherings with voters. But emails obtained by The Associated Press reveal a careful, behind-the-scenes effort to review introductory remarks for college presidents and students introducing her, as well as suggesting questions that happened to be aligned with her campaign platform.
Emails obtained by The Associated Press reveal a careful, behind-the-scenes effort to review introductory remarks for college presidents and students introducing Hillary Clinton, as well as suggesting questions that happened to be aligned with her campaign platform. CHARLIE NEIBERGALL/AP
By JACK GILLUM, CHAD DAY and STEPHEN BRAUN, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) For Hillary Clinton, the presidential campaign has been about building an approachable image: She's often eschewed big arenas in favor of town halls, peppered her ads with personal stories and planned less-scripted gatherings with voters.
But emails obtained by The Associated Press reveal a careful, behind-the-scenes effort to review introductory remarks for college presidents and students presenting the Democratic front-runner as a speaker, as well as suggesting questions that happened to be aligned with her campaign platform.
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The former secretary of state's preparedness appears in contrast with the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald Trump, who rarely pulls punches in his speeches, speaks more spontaneously and has far more apparently unplanned, unscripted interactions.
Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said, "We take pride in Secretary Clinton's ability to answer tough questions. We do not screen questioners at events, nor do we script interactions." He said Clinton has answered about 900 questions in formal events on the campaign, and that more-memorable moments came from the fact her events were "completely unscripted."
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-06-02/emails-clinton-staff-reviewed-remarks-questions-for-eventstics/articles/2016-06-02/emails-clinton-staff-reviewed-remarks-questions-for-events
metroins
(2,550 posts)Every campaign does this.
"Every campaign" does NOT do this.
Just the corrupt ones.
Lol lol lol
Listen to yourself man. You just equated to pre-screening speeches to corruption, every campaign does this. Bernie, Trump, Hillary....they all ask what's going to be said and give ideas on it.
Take a step back.
They pre-screen interview questions too, remember when Bernie ended an interview early? I think Jane did it once too. In campaigning it's nice to know what is expected so there's no gotcha moment.
Or else you end up with Madeline Albright "burn in hell" or the "corporate whores" statement optics.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)You made a false blanket statement and I corrected you.
Funny? Not so much.
Kind of pathetic and weak, actually.
SCantiGOP
(13,868 posts)Sounds like you have never been involved in a campaign. This is standard.
And to call it "corrupt" destroys any credibility you might have on this matter.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)It being a very common practice, doesn't make it any less corrupt. Perhaps if we had spoken out about things like this being unacceptable instead of just shrugging it off, they wouldn't have become common practice in the first place.
PatrickforO
(14,569 posts)However, let me say that I suspect this tendency to pre screen has gone a bit too far. I've often thought that during a presidential debate, I'd like to ask the candidates something like,
"America spends more than any advanced nation on healthcare, and its people arguably get worse care. What is your plan to rein in costs while at the same time IMPROVING health care for the American people?"
or
"What is your plan to ensure that big corporations pay their fair share of taxes?"
or
"What is your specific plan to ensure our children aren't buried in debt when they graduate from college?"
or
"Tell us your position on the Patriot Act and the NSA's current reach?"
To me, those aren't gotchas, they are legitimate policy questions. OF COURSE political campaigns are going to do everything they can to remove any possibility they are asked, but still...
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Oh, they will say a lot of words that sound vaguely like an answer but if you parse those words carefully you'll find they often mean little to nothing at all and leave enough wiggle room for a brontosaurus orgy.
PatrickforO
(14,569 posts)But even Bernie won't go out in the weeds much.
riversedge
(70,182 posts)Matt_R
(456 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Because it sounds like someone who is thorough and takes her job seriously.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Ah ha.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)turns his back. Damn, we have the man all pegged. Lets watch the next couple weeks.
Sigh... nah. I have better things to do, but betcha.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)during the above, that revealed the secret home server. Maybe or maybe not, but I've never heard any other story of how it became known.
riversedge
(70,182 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I think we can all agree, that if one is speaking the truth- prepping answers to questions isn't really necessary?
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)You can prep for an audience AND tell the truth. Those concepts are mutually exclusive.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)If one is being honest, the story will be the same time after time after time. No prep needed. So if you still disagree- in my opinion it is only to be disagreeable.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)I'm sure he has no problem keeping his narrative in line. Clinton has a much more expansive grasp of the issues and certainly cannot keep all of her thoughts on all that she does completely fresh in her mind at every moment.
That Sanders can do it doesn't surprise me. He's a one issue candidate and he's positively boring to listen to. I've tried, I donated money and he was my guy. But my god, how many times can you listen to someone say the exact same thing before you realize they have no grasp on any issues?
For me it took 3 months, then I was done. For those of you who find it meaningful, good for you.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Clinton is not any smarter nor has any better of a grasp of the issues than Sanders. In fact, she's been more of a screw up especially in regards to foreign policy in Libya, Syria and Honduras. She is responsible for chaos, death of thousands of civilian in all of those countries as a result of her bad decisions.
But- as long as she's not boring, I guess that's a good thing. I suppose one can fill their empty days comparing what she has said in the past with what the evidence in the IG report says and you have to admit, it's hard getting bored with that.
Me, I've listened to her speak enough to figure out her "tell" when she's about to compose a lie or evade an answer. Wanna know what it is?
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)This is true for every single Secretary of State that has ever been in office. It's true for every Commander In Chief. Unfortunately that's part of being in a very high position in government. Bernie Sanders certainly doesn't have to contend with that because he has never been in a position of prominence that comes close to hers. She's done his job (Senator), she's been in the White House for 8 years, and she was Secretary of State. To compare her accomplishments and grasp of international issues to Bernies is, well, no need to even say. There just is no comparison.
If all you got out of what I said is that I am voting for Hillary because she isn't boring then go ahead and believe that I am that shallow and naive. But remember who believes that Sanders is honest as he continues to pilfer money from people while his Titanic is sinking, all while hiding behind his non-existent tax returns which must have something in there he just doesn't want us to see.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)to take action in Libya. That is Clinton's baby to rock.
The Times spoke of Clintons deep belief in Americas power to do good in the world, but did not stress that this belief is rooted in an aggressive militarism. It did quote French President Sarkozy, who fondly remembered how the secretary of state was tough, she was bullish, but the Times reporting understated Clintons belligerence.
At 13,000 words in length combined, the articles are important contributions to the historical record. Yet although they are critical of Clinton and her leadership in the conflict, they fail to acknowledge the crimes of U.S.-backed rebel groups, and ultimately underestimate just how disastrous the war was, just how hawkish Hillary is and just how significant this will be for the future of the United States not to mention the future of Libya and its suffering people.
The U.S. president does not have as much control over economic and social issues as many pundits, analysts and even voters often insist. One must not forget that the head of state does not control the Congress or the judiciary. But the president does have enormous power when it comes to international affairs, diplomacy and war. This makes foreign policy one of the most crucial issues in any presidential campaign.
Clintons leadership in the catastrophic war in Libya should ergo constantly be at the forefront of any discussion of the presidential primary.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)it gives her time to think.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)For a campaign that has an ally like Brock, operating as he has, this is to be expected.
It dovetails with this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/02/hillary-clinton-shouldnt-do-press-conferences-because-shes-not-good-at-them-um-what/
It has been 181 days since Hillary Clinton last held a formal news conference. No big deal, writes Claire Landsbaum in a piece for "The Cut" headlined, "Stop Bugging Hillary Clinton About Giving a Press Conference."
Landsbaum's argument boils down to this: Clinton has acknowledged in the past that she isn't terribly comfortable speaking in public and, therefore, should avoid doing it.
"Part of playing the political game is knowing the best way to get your message across," Landsbaum writes. "As such, Clinton should be recognized for her pragmatism rather than being pressured to perform based on standards that don't necessarily apply across the board."
(Btw, this article is by Chris Cillizza, he's given Secretary Clinton a lot of favorable coverage)
Here's the fundamental problem with Landsbaum's argument: Clinton giving a news conference and allowing the media to ask her about anything isn't a luxury item in a democracy. It's a core principle.
Madam Mossfern
(2,340 posts)I'm a Bernie supporter and I see nothing wrong with this - it's just campaigning on a professional level. The electorate needs to be better informed about this common practice so they can judge better whom to support by looking at actual issues and platforms, not speeches about the candidate.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)insult or accusation, lol.
OMG... what a fuckin hoot. Whatever it is, it is so twisted, I am not even gonna waste my time figuring out what the insult or accusation is.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)What is she trying to prove? That she's a professional who cares about doing a good job?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)spent on Du this morning, with my coffee. Too funny. Thanks. And you, have a wonderful Saturday.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Sort of like the complaints that Obama was too educated.
Have a wonderful Saturday to you too!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)I see Upoola's thread of standing in line waiting to see Clinton. I just might continue to check back. How fun is that.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)I walked right up to her and asked if I could say hello, she was completely gracious. And approachable.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)lol.
That is fun.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Nt
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Nt
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)in the lead, literally won and you are telling me she runs a loose campaign?
She has done awesome in her campaign run, kicked ass all the way, preserved. And you insult that? When is a woman good enough. Too too funny. This thread has been an hoot.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)I guess I should be happy.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)I'd vote for someone else
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I approved of before hand too cause it might be too hard to answer unrehearsed questions. And we've all been told that with Clinton hard things can't be done.
Only small, easy tasks can be accomplished. You know, like answering questions you only have a prepared answer for?
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)But you keep peddling that right wing shit
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)So keep up peddling your shit too.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)totally off the cuff?
Maybe After all, I understand that- is where she let it slip that she was using her own unsecured home brew server instead of the government's for email.
And that, is not a right wing talking point. That is a fact.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Her testimony doesnt fit with facts as we now understand them.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)They'd stop making him look so bad. People expect them to be speaking for Bernie. It's not good for him when they go rouge.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)But, not being able to answer questions without help? Not so much. But it's not a really big deal.
It's well known she is not good "on her feet" like when she punched the lady in the chest for asking a question.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)a well informed, well articulated answer.
For you to suggest this is one of her weakness, you are just wrong.
Now, Sanders on the other hand? How many times has he not answered the question?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)How is she at press conferences?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)She doesn't do her own thinking very well.
I wonder sometimes if she actually numbers them in her head -- queue up "pre-canned clip #43" or somesuch.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Maybe Bernie should have done that to avoid stuff like "corporate Democratic whores" and references to Monica Lewinsky and sneers at black southern voters being made from his events.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,173 posts)...and by that I mean the speeches, planned pre-vetted meetings with "frendlies," debates and the like. Every politician does that.
The acid test is in those unscripted moments when something comes clear out of left field that the candidate hasn't prepared and rehearsed for. The moments that keep campaign managers awake nights.
In Hillary's case, it might be that unfortunate meeting with the Greenpeace activist. Not her finest moment. Bill was always pretty good at keeping his poise when these things happened (as they will).
Either way, unplanned unpleasant moments seldom give one enough notice to assemble a focus group and have one's staff prepare an appropriate response. That's why Presidents get the big bucks.