Will Hillary continue her campaign even under Indictment ??

[FreakinDJ]

Starting to see lots of polling articles "Should Hillary Drop Out if Indicted" from Pro-Clinton publications as a trial ballon for what to do when the FBI recommends charges to the DOJ.

As bizarre as this may seem, the Pro-Hillary forces feels she is justified to do so. Personally I would postpone any overseas travel as I don't want to be the laughing stalk of the Free World - but that's just me.

I would like to know what justification you would have for voting for any candidate under indictment for the President of the United States

So I'll ask the question

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	YES I will vote for Hillary even if the FBI recommends charges to the DOJ
	2 (4%)
	IF Indicted Hillary should suppend her campaign immediately
	46 (96%)
	Take TIME to asses the charges and the will of the American People
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Cooley Hurd]

1. Not fond of hypotheticals, but to quote the Daisy ad...

"The stakes are just too high" to risk a Drumpf Presidency. I would hope she would step aside for the SAKE of America (of course, under the hypothetical scenario posed by your OP).

[FreakinDJ]

8. Then explain this Rasmussen polling

50% Say Clinton Should Keep Running Even If Indicted

Most continue to believe likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton is a lawbreaker, but half of all voters also say a felony indictment shouldn’t stop her campaign for the presidency


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/may_2016/50_say_clinton_should_keep_running_even_if_indicted

Like I said - not my idea - but some one is paying for this polling non the less

[SFnomad]

21. You'll notice that isn't the ONLY question in their poll ...

But hey, if you can blame someone else so you can create a Faux "News" type poll ... go for it. You'll notice, the first question in their poll was:

How likely is it that Hillary Clinton broke the law by sending and receiving e-mails containing classified information through a private e-mail server while serving as secretary of State – Very likely, somewhat likely, not very likely or not at all likely?

But don't bother covering that option ... it's easier to have a Faux "News" type poll for the BS cheerleaders anyway.

[FreakinDJ]

41. Looks like the Hilbots are having a tough time dealing with reality

The question in the Rasmussen polling and in my poll had nothing to do with IF Hillary gets indicted. For those dealing with reality it is only a matter of WHEN ...


So no matter how much Hilbots wish to get all worked up about it - THAT is the question

What is offensive is Hilbots running around as if in an Alternate Reality accusing anyone else of being "Fox News" like or Freepers or Trolls or what ever your Hillary Group (with over 800 BANNED members) wishes to call it

If that is not proof enough the Hillary Group has their head planted firmly in the ground I don't know what is

[grasswire]

30. ask them again after the referral comes from the FBI. nt

[Fumesucker]

2. She can't drop out before the convention

A HRC exit pretty much makes Bernie the default nominee and that will not be allowed to happen under any circumstances.

So, yeah an indictment won't stop her until the convention.

[Txbluedog]

4. You get it, you really get it !

[Juicy_Bellows]

20. I agree.

After the convention the party can try and shoehorn in a Biden or whatever - If they pull that shit it won't work out too well.

[senz]

26. You're so sensible.

I wonder what tptb -- especially Obama, Kerry, Comey, and Clinton's uber-rich corporate backers -- are saying about it privately?

[FreakinDJ]

40. They're going to run her any way

that's what they're saying

[libdem4life]

37. If rumor-mongering outlier articles are true in any way, they are

panicked. Will Biden allow himself to be used? I don't think so. His family, especially Beau's dying request that he not run, is not up for it.

Warren? I don't think a dual female ticket will go anywhere...regardless of political persuasion. Boy, if Bernie hasn't been vetted after 30 years or so of elections, Warren is a downright newbie. She does well as a school teacher intellectual type behind a podium with her notes and comments thoroughly research and impeccably delivered. She's gunning for a Cabinet Post...Treasury most likely.

Frankly, the Democrats know more than we do about all of this, so who is going to sacrifice themselves on the Clinton Altar of Deceit and fight it for 4 years. Their political career and place in history...as it will surely be...would be in shambles in the end.

[roguevalley]

55. indictment means arrest, processing, fingerprinting and mug shots. Imagine Trump with her

MUGSHOT. Tell me again how we will win.

[LonePirate]

3. Where is the option for she won't be indicted and this poll is nothing but a partisan pipe dream?

[Hiraeth]

5. I think you just took it. Should be plenty of plus ones coming right up.

[libdem4life]

38. That's what we're all working from. That's today. Some of are looking

a little beyond that. Sometimes the past reflects upon the future. Or, Those who do not know history, are doomed to repeat it.

[StevieM]

6. She won't have the opportunity to. Hillary is not going to be indicted. She is going to win

the nomination, win the GE and become our next president in January 2017.

[SFnomad]

7. Looks like the type of poll you'd see on Faux "News" ... where is the "No Indictments" option? n/t

[FreakinDJ]

9. Sorry - that wasn't the question

[SFnomad]

11. So it was intentional to have a Faux "News" type poll ... got it. n/t

[FreakinDJ]

19. Polling for Dummys

refer to post #8 if you need an explanation

I guess not everyone has advanced cognitive functions during the primary season

[Trust Buster]

10. This thread should be locked. For a group of people that are voting to hide posts all the time, they

sure are hypocrites. To think I had a post hidden today for saying that Sanders should have run as an Independent. They wish to censor anyone that will not put up with this foolishness.

[Cooley Hurd]

12. ...or a group of people so thin-skinned that over 800 DUers have been banned from their group?

...or a DUer that has had 10 posts hidden in the last 3 months? I've not had 10 posts hidden... ever (and I've been here over 14 years)!

Alert on this thread, Skippy.

[Trust Buster]

16. I have never alerted on a thread or out anyone on ignore. How you people can do that just to

turn around and start a thread like this is beyond me.

[Cooley Hurd]

34. You'd better hope "you people" vote for your candidate come November

The Secretary Clinton group members have been, even by Skinner's metrics, awful towards Senator Sanders' supporters. I, personally, know 2 DUers in real life, and BOTH of them, Sanders' supporters BUT OPEN to Secretary Clinton's GE run, are now absolutely turned off of Secretary Clinton BECAUSE of her supporters on THIS website, and might sit out the GE BECAUSE of this nonsense.

Ask yourself... is THIS your goal? You'd better re-think it, because a Drumpf win against Secretary Clinton is a REAL possibility.

Behave, follow the TOS of this site, and reach across to Sanders' supporters, or face a Drumpf Presidency. It's on you...

[Trust Buster]

45. Anyone that would go into a Hillary Group or a Sanders group knows their walking on egg shells.

My posts have followed TOS rules but Sanders supporters dominate the jury and hide posts that have no business being hidden. I have no intention of reaching across to Sanders supporters. I share very little in common with them.

[Cooley Hurd]

48. Sorry, 9 hides means you're not able to digest and follow the rules of this site

...in 2 yrs being here. I've been here 14 years and have had no more than 6 hides.

Read the TOS. It might allow you to stay here in good stead.

[Trust Buster]

50. Nope, not a single one of my hides were justified under the terms of TOS.

[FreakinDJ]

17. Refer to post #8

I have been hearing about this poling for the last couple days and just now finally got a chance to look it up.

Wanted to ask DU what they thought about it

BTW: FUCK your purity test

[redstateblues]

54. I've had some really hare trigger hides. Amounts to censorship by the majority

I've been here 12 years and never had a hide til six months ago

[Trust Buster]

58. They've abused the jury system and are proud of it. I merely stated my opinion that Sanders

should have run as an Independent in a thread of a Sanders supporter calling for moderate Dems be tossed from the Party and they hid it 4-3. They censor as bad as the far Right.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. "I'm not a crook" bumper stickers would be a real eye-catcher but there are drawbacks.

[Trust Buster]

18. No, this is't hateful at all. Geez, you people are something else.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. I don't "hate" Hillary. I just don't think she's fit to be president.

[Cooley Hurd]

35. Again... "you people"

You're the worst advocate for your candidate. Not even worthy of you avatar. You'd better think about this. Your candidate is in trouble in the GE, per polling. Welcome Sanders' supporters into your fold, not denigrate them.

It's on you...

[Trust Buster]

46. Her post about crooked Hillary bumper stickers came right from the mouth of Trump. She

deserved to be called out. Those are meant to be hateful posts. That kind of nasty post does not represent anything I wish to reach out to.

[Cooley Hurd]

49. You'd better start if you want to help your candidate...

[Trust Buster]

51. Nope, this site attracts the more extreme Sanders supporters. They make up only a small subset

of total Sanders supporters. Mathematically negligible.

[thesquanderer]

14. If she's indicted, she should drop out, but she won't. And I'll vote against Trump no matter what.

[Cooley Hurd]

15. As will I, even with (hypothetically) our nominee under indictment.

[bigwillq]

22. IF she is, then she should suspend immediately. (nt)

[senz]

24. Of course she should. But ... WILL she?

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[yourpaljoey]

31. ASWHWD = Ask Sméagol What He Would Do

It's all about the PRECIOUS!

[FreakinDJ]

42. LOL - "It's all about the PRECIOUS!" - a DUzy !!!

[yourpaljoey]

32. Would Sméagol give up the PRECIOUS!?

[Wait for it]

25. If the FBI recommends indictment, then Clinton needs to withdraw her name from the nomination

BEFORE the convention begins.

[panader0]

47. ^^this^^

Even if the DoJ does not choose to indict, the mere recommendation of charges by the FBI
will hand this race to tRump. Just an ugly situation all the way around. I'm 65 and have been following politics
for over 40 of those years, and this is the biggest clusterfuck I can remember. The two most reviled
candidates ....... ugh.

[Orsino]

27. Begging the question. n/t

[Maedhros]

28. She'll give up her candidacy when they pry it from her cold, dead fingers. [n/t]

[TDale313]

29. Should and will she are two very different questions.

I voted that I think she should suspend her campaign. Do I think she will? When she's so close to winning the nomination/presidency she can taste it? Nope, not a chance.

[karynnj]

33. It's an extremely difficult question if she gets indicted (which I do not think will happen)

Though I do have a problem with hypotheticals, this is a fascinating question.

Technically, you are assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. It is very likely that if indicted, Clinton will THINK that what she did did not arise to a crime. Now, if she ends her run -- she will have in fact been punished enormously by losing a very strong chance to become President that she will not get again. In addition, she most likely believes that she is the most qualified person to become President and even the most likely Democrat to win.

However, whether she thinks that she will win the case, the case would not even come to trial before the election. This could doom the Democrats. However, I think that once she has the nomination (at the convention), it really is her choice. Even if initial polling shows a steep decline, there could be arguments that over time, she will return to beating Trump. (Not to mention, Trump likely has many more things that he could be in trouble for.)

I guess a summary would be - it would be a mess.

[Hiraeth]

53. it would be a mess. <---- It already is. She has ripped this party wide open.

Assessing the damage to determine if the wound is mortal.

I hate what she is doing to this party.

[Ferd Berfel]

36. If she does continue under indictment

it will be a 3 ring freak show that will kill whats left of the New Democrat Party.
and she will lose.

[FreakinDJ]

43. As much as the New Democrat Party sought to exclude Independants ....

Its like an Alcoholic - they have to Hit Bottom before they can recover

[senz]

39. Okay, could they force her? Or simply run someone else?

Assuming TPTB couldn't tolerate a return to democracy via a Sanders presidency, could they simply offer a different Democratic establishment candidate to the electorate?

Is that even possible?

Or a quick Third Party run? I think I heard the Libertarians are going to run one but .. ick.

It's a mess.

I am reminded of a Peanuts character.

[FreakinDJ]

44. The Clintons and the 3rd Way are TPTB

If anything the countless coordinated attacks from the Clinton Camp and the 3rd Way against Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Independent Voters at Large has taught us is that they are The Powers That Be behind the current Democratic Party

[RandySF]

52. There will be no indictment.

[redstateblues]

56. This is an " are you still beating your wife "? Post

Flame bait

[FreakinDJ]

57. BTW How is your wife ?

[Scuba]

59. From "Ready for Hillary" to "Still not Indicted" to "Not Yet Convicted" to "She can still Appeal"

[FreakinDJ]

60. Lot of Truth in that