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Henhouse

(646 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:17 AM Jun 2016

Here’s where Hillary Clinton is giving her nomination victory speech on Tuesday night

Here’s where Hillary Clinton is giving her nomination victory speech on Tuesday night

By Bill Palmer | June 4, 2016 |

Hillary Clinton will officially clinch the Democratic Party 2016 nomination for President on Tuesday June 7th when the polls close in New Jersey, whether she wins the state or not, based on proportional delegates — but she won’t be giving her victory speech there. She’ll also be looking to win the California primary later that night, but she won’t be speaking from the west coast either. Instead, Hillary has revealed an intriguing home base for the evening....

Hillary will be holding an official event at the Brooklyn Navy Yard from 6:00 to 10:00pm eastern time on Tuesday night, meaning that when the polls close in New Jersey and she officially becomes the democratic nominee, she’ll be celebrating just across the Hudson River and East River. It represents an opportunity to bring her campaign back to its starting point.


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Here’s where Hillary Clinton is giving her nomination victory speech on Tuesday night (Original Post) Henhouse Jun 2016 OP
Because she thinks rules don't apply to her? nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #1
Shes following the same rules democrats have been following for a generation Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #3
The DNC runs the primaries and it is their rules in place Samantha Jun 2016 #7
How dare I?! Sanders is infallible! Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #8
I will shrink mine by one in about one minute. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #38
On June 8 the people from the DNC will take orders from geek tragedy Jun 2016 #9
If she does not have 2383 in pledged delegates and Bernie is still in the race, she does not win Samantha Jun 2016 #15
So says no one who has any say in the matter. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #16
The truth does not matter to some here. It is sad. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #28
Yeah well that was before the times they are a changin... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #32
If the system was so unfair why did Sanders agree MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #35
Brooklyn....her house, her rules. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #4
The rules do apply. She won the voting, she will clinch the nomination, geek tragedy Jun 2016 #6
Lol whut rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #22
I was thinking Flint Skink Jun 2016 #2
Seems fitting...LOL Jack Bone Jun 2016 #5
She loves militarism, though, and likes to identify herself with raw power. bjo59 Jun 2016 #11
She wil be the Commander-in-chief of the Navy, so it's very fitting. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #13
I think Trump's gonna beat her... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #14
Walter Mondale was a fine person rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #23
+1 Henhouse Jun 2016 #37
Is the idea that the superdelegates will be too embarrassed not to vote for her at the convention in bjo59 Jun 2016 #10
No, she won the voting and already has a bunch of geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12
This is worse than trying to explain MFM008 Jun 2016 #26
No they would be embarrassed rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #24
How is she going to win the nomination without 2383 pledged delegates? Hillary cannot make up jillan Jun 2016 #17
They are going to apply the same standards to her that they geek tragedy Jun 2016 #19
It's not Bernie's opinion - it is a fact. 2383 is the number of PLEDGED delegates to win. jillan Jun 2016 #20
There you go with your damn rules again. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #29
Nonsense Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #34
For a person that names themself Henhouse Aerows Jun 2016 #18
Zing! jillan Jun 2016 #21
She can say whatever she wants, it will still be a contested convention! The B Calm Jun 2016 #25
Alcatraz or Leavenworth ain't in Brooklyn. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #27
So she'll be lying yet another time? cui bono Jun 2016 #30
I love it!!!! Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #31
Yippeeeee! K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #33
LOL, The Daily 'News' Bin again? Rob H. Jun 2016 #36

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
3. Shes following the same rules democrats have been following for a generation
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:21 AM
Jun 2016

But the rules don't apply to Sanders, right? Most votes, most delegates, superdelegate counts, popular opinion. Fuck all of that! Give Sanders special treatment because he is a raging asshole

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
7. The DNC runs the primaries and it is their rules in place
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:02 AM
Jun 2016

Three times now recently the DNC has dispatched a spokesperson to inform the networks not to include the superdelegates in with pledged delegates when reporting primary voting results. These are not Sanders' rules but those of the DNC.

As far as calling Senator Sanders "a raging asshole" you are beyond appalling. Off to Ignore with you.

Sam

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
8. How dare I?! Sanders is infallible!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:04 AM
Jun 2016

Just keep shrinking your world until almost no one is left to listen to. That is the best way to live your life.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. On June 8 the people from the DNC will take orders from
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:21 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary's campaign. They won't be neutral because we will have a winner.

Bernie can complain all he wants, but he is powerless to stop it. Because he lost.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. So says no one who has any say in the matter.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:45 AM
Jun 2016

This is how it has always worked. When a candidate has both a pledged delegate majority and an overall delegate majority--they get declared the presumptive nominee.

The first woman to become a presumptive nominee is not going to get treated differently than all the male nominees just because the self-entitled man whose ass she beat refuses to acknowledge her victory.

Bernie and his people can say whatever they want about her not being the winner. He's the loser, so his opinion doesn't count. Ain't shit he can do to stop it. All he can do is whine.



Demsrule86

(68,549 posts)
32. Yeah well that was before the times they are a changin...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:22 AM
Jun 2016

On Tuesday, it all changes. Clinton has a majority of the delegates and supers vote for the candidate with the most delegates...thus, she is the presumptive nominee as Obama was in 08 under similar circumstances with the number of votes and all. At the convention, she becomes the nominee ...and the word presumptive is no longer used.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
35. If the system was so unfair why did Sanders agree
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jun 2016

To become part of it? Why did he betray the movement and participate in something he loathes? To become a well known shit stirrer? To try and dismantle Democrats from winning? He had a choice to be true to his beliefs and he chose to be a participant in what he hated, now he needs to be a grownup and admit it was a flawed gambit from the beginning.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. The rules do apply. She won the voting, she will clinch the nomination,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:54 AM
Jun 2016

and anyone who doesn't like it is shit out of luck, as well as out of excuses.

As of Tuesday she will have won, she can declare victory, and all Bernie can do about it is whine and get made fun of.

Jack Bone

(2,023 posts)
14. I think Trump's gonna beat her...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:32 AM
Jun 2016

She's a horribly flawed candidate that offers no vision.

She's Walter Mondale in a pantsuit.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
10. Is the idea that the superdelegates will be too embarrassed not to vote for her at the convention in
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:25 AM
Jun 2016

July after she's already had a big victory party? Interesting strategy.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. No, she won the voting and already has a bunch of
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:28 AM
Jun 2016

superdelegates supporting her. She won. Doesn't matter if you and Bernie and Jane and Weaver refuse to acknowledge it. Reality will go forward without you.

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
26. This is worse than trying to explain
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:38 AM
Jun 2016

climate change to James Inhofe.
Facts and science are behind you
and all you get is a snowball for an answer...........

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
24. No they would be embarrassed
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:10 AM
Jun 2016

to vote for a guy with several million fewer votes and several hundred fewer PDs.

What part of democracy is so hard for you people?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
17. How is she going to win the nomination without 2383 pledged delegates? Hillary cannot make up
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:51 AM
Jun 2016

her own rules.

She has 1776 delegates, according to the AP.

She needs 607 to clinch the nomination.

This is insane.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. They are going to apply the same standards to her that they
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:03 AM
Jun 2016

did to Obama.

When he clinched with superdelegates he declared victory and was universally regarded as the presumptive nominee.

It's Team Bernie that's trying to rewrite the rules.

This garbage about needing 2383 pledged delegates to become the presumptive nominee is delusional Calvinball.

No one cares what the guy who lost the voting thinks. Because he lost, his opinion is ultimately irreievant.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. It's not Bernie's opinion - it is a fact. 2383 is the number of PLEDGED delegates to win.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:20 AM
Jun 2016

This is from the DNC themselves, and yes they are the ones that set the rules.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
34. Nonsense
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jun 2016

2383 is the number of pledged AND superdelegates needed to win. To reach a majority of the pledged delegates, you need only 2026. The superdelegates always support the winner of the pledged delegates. Game over.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/6/11597550/superdelegates-bernie-sanders-clinton

To win the Democratic nomination, a candidate needs a simple majority of 2,383 delegates (pledged or superdelegates) at the convention floor.

About 85 percent of the convention's delegates are chosen by the voters, and about 15 percent are superdelegates. So it takes a pretty huge pledged delegate margin of victory — a win of 59 to 41 percent — to take the nomination outright. Otherwise, the superdelegates have to push someone over the finish line.

This is what happened in 2008. Barack Obama did not take enough of the pledged delegates to win the nomination alone. But because Obama had narrowly beaten Clinton among the pledged delegates, the superdelegates followed the will of the voters — and gave him the nomination.

You could look at that and say that Obama won "because of" the superdelegates. And in the most literal sense possible, it'd be true. But, again, superdelegates did not make Obama the nominee — the voters did. The same dynamic is now playing out with Clinton and Sanders in 2016.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. For a person that names themself Henhouse
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:57 AM
Jun 2016

you sure are counting a whole bunch of chickens before they've hatched.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
25. She can say whatever she wants, it will still be a contested convention! The
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:14 AM
Jun 2016

more she blabs about winning, the more angry her opposition will get. Totally up to her if she wants peace or war.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
36. LOL, The Daily 'News' Bin again?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jun 2016
http://beingbutmen.blogspot.com/2015/11/today-tim-martyn-from-web-site-daily.html

No one knows who owns the domain, because it was registered secretly using the company Domains By Proxy. Rather obviously, Daily News Bin has something to hide. Daily News Bin claims to be run by Bill Palmer, its "Senior Editor". There is, apparently, a "Bill Palmer". He's written all of two articles for BeatWeek, a music magazine. He claims to be the magazine's editor-in-chief, but if you go to BeatWeek's Web site and try to verify that -- you discover that the "About" page is an attack-page full of viruses that attempts to take over your computer. In fact, that's true of almost every page on BeatWeek's Web site, except for their "Contact Us" page.

There are four "reporters" at Daily News Bin: Cara Harris, Tim Martyn, Christy Bishop Cricow, Reggie Smith, and Anita Finlay Harris, Martyn, and Smith seem not to exist. The only "Christy Bishop Cricow" I can find with a Google search is an interior designer and sticker manufacturer who lives in Eugene, Oregon. Anita Finlay Harris is a real person, who hold right-wing/libertarian views (she's a regular contributor to the right-wing The Jerry Doyle Show, the right-wing Americans Talk Radio Network, the right-wing Midpoint With Ed Berliner, the right-wing Talk Radio Network, and more). But if you search Daily News Bin for anything she's written, nothing comes up. Nor does a Google search of her name and Daily News Bin.

If you read the articles on Daily News Bin, it's clear the site is a poorly written pro-Hillary Clinton site. It does nothing but promote Hillary Clinton. It talks as if Hillary Clinton already won the Democratic nomination for president. Now, Daily News Bin pretends to have Tech, Music, and Entertainment sections. But if you go to them, you discover them either empty or full of pro-Hillary Clinton articles.

I'm all for political Web sites. But this is a joke. It's so poorly done, I'm shocked anyone believes it.
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