2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA Majority of Pledged Delegates Is the Measure.
That majority will indicate the will of the voters. Super Delegates will respect that, as they did in 2008, and will not change their intentions to nominate the candidate with less than a majority of pledged delegates.
It will not happen.
Once Hillary Clinton has the 2026 pledged delegate majority, this primary season is over. No amount of posturing, demonstrating, disrupting and pleading will convince the Super Delegates to vote for the loser of the primary race at the convention.
It will not happen.
Simplicity itself. The voters speak and we have our nominee. Nothing complicated at all in that.
As of this morning, Hillary Clinton needs 251 more pledged delegates to reach that 2026 majority. That will happen, with a sizable surplus, on Tuesday when the votes are counted.
That will happen.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)no amount of foot stomping changes this out come and its time to move on
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)MineralMan
(146,189 posts)boston bean
(36,186 posts)you can't really blame his supporters... Even though they are being gullible.
MineralMan
(146,189 posts)However, reality is about to take a bite of that enthusiasm. There is just no way the super delegates will switch to vote for the candidate in second place. I can't even imagine more than a couple even considering it.
June 7 is it. I really expect Hillary to have something like 2125 pledged delegates on Wednesday morning, and maybe a few more. She'll also pick up the majority of the DC pledged delegates. It's very possible that she'll end up with 2150 or so. More than 100 more than she needs for a majority of pledged delegates.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)I'm kinda shocked. I thought it was about rallies.
MineralMan
(146,189 posts)percentage of actual voters.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Though I think at least realistically it's the most important.
Probably when CA closes.
MineralMan
(146,189 posts)It is the number that matters, and the only number, really, that matters in the end.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Oops.
Turns out no one outside Bernieland bought his claim that superdelegates get counted for the denominator but not the numerator.
So the bar is to include superdelegates, which means NJ is where she crosses the line.
MineralMan
(146,189 posts)Then, though, it is absolutely over. There is no recovery from then on for Sanders. It simply can't happen.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)the needed prefix for your title. Everybody except you BoBers will stick with the Democratic Party Presidential nomination rules in place for decades, thank you.
MineralMan
(146,189 posts)I'm not a BoBer. Not in any way.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)MineralMan
(146,189 posts)I think she's sure of picking up at least 40 pledged delegates there, out of the 60. She will add to her delegate count in every election on June 7, to, even the ones she loses. New Jersey will probably give her 80 pledged delegates, too. New Mexico may be a win for her, as well. California's likely to be very close, leading to a pretty even split of their pledged delegates. Half of those is about 237.
After California, she will be well over the 2026 she needs to have the majority of pledged delegates. I'm thinking she'll end up with 2125-2150 total at the end of Jun 7. She'll pick up another 15 in DC the next Tuesday, probably.
Now, those are predictions, and we'll have to wait and see the actual results, but watch the pledged delegate count. When it hits 2026, this primary season is over.