First time in history, a woman wins a major party nomination?! Nah. Give it to a white dude.

[ashtonelijah]

That is essentially the mantra of the Bernie Sanders campaign right now. Despite all Bernie's earlier complaints that the Superdelegate process is undemocratic, he is now arguing that, for the first time in history, Superdelegates should overturn the will of the popular vote and the pledged delegate lead.

And it should strip away the nomination from the first woman nominee of a major party ever -- a woman who in all likelihood will have rightfully come out ahead by 3 million in the popular vote and ~300 in pledged delegates.

Historic female nominee who overwhelmingly won among the voters? Nah. Strip it from her and give it to the white dude.

And Bernie really thinks that Hillary supporters and women will be cool with that? It's one thing to eventually support the candidate who won fair and square against yours. But if Bernie thinks Hillary supporters would accept this and get behind him, he's nuts. What arrogance.

[beachbum bob]

1. since it won't be happening, saved sanders from a lot headaches

looks like we saved sanders from himself too!!!

[The Wielding Truth]

110. He wants to prevent all of the headaches we have - from being swindled by the 1%.

He has been and will probably continue to work for the betterment of this (our) country. Win or lose he has always been a proponent of fairness and social justice and public welfare. I thought that that is what all democrats really were.

[tarheelsunc]

134. We are. We just chose a better candidate to do the work for us. eom

[The Wielding Truth]

163. She will be better than any Republican because she must take us democrats with her.

[hobbit709]

2. for the second time in my memory a corrupt politician got the nomination.

[ashtonelijah]

14. Typical, repeating the chauvinistic lie that a woman can only win by conniving & deceit.

[uponit7771]

22. +1, rarely does the establishment give credit to the marginalized

[cherokeeprogressive]

65. Hillary Clinton marginalized.Thanks for the guffaw, the snicker, and the side-splitting belly laugh.

[hobbit709]

25. Nope. One particular woman is venal and corrupt.

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There are at least 25 million Constitutionally eligible women in this country that I would vote for before I would ever vote for Clinton.
I would have voted for Warren if she was running.

[ecstatic]

83. "Makes it far" - um, yeah, but he still lost.

Nothing is being taken from him, contrary to the lie Sanders keeps pushing.

[morningfog]

112. Sanders has never made that claim. You are making shit up.

[Matt_R]

139. Elvis never did no drugs.

[Feathery Scout]

104. In 2012 the Republican Party chose a non-Christian Mormon as their nominee

[Feathery Scout]

115. No. He's 'special' like a prophet but he is not their lord and savior.

They have some Angel and speak directly to God/Angel through their anointed leader on Earth.

[Lizzie Poppet]

48. Except that wasn't the argument they actually made.

The argument was specific to one woman, not all. Obviously.

[Loudestlib]

92. Your post disgusts me. Divisive, distractive politics. You win my first ignore.

[840high]

97. With Hillary this is not

a lie.

[Phlem]

111. What a mouthful of bullshit.

The data is there chief.

Pull yer head out.

[tarheelsunc]

135. Sorry, Bernie ain't getting the nomination. eom

[Trust Buster]

3. Tuesday will make history. The first time in U.S. history that a woman becomes the nominee to be

President of the United States of America. Tuesday will be a great day, a progressive day.

[rickford66]

4. Why were the SD's created?

I've read they were created to overrule the popular primary vote and run the candidate most likely to win the GE. Can anyone set me straight?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. They weren't created to steal the nomination from POC and women over forty. That's for sure.

[hobbit709]

35. Might want to read up on the history.

They were created to make sure only someone favored by the inside the beltway establishment got it.They didn't want any outsider that they didn't own going anywhere.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Maybe they were chastened by the fact a candidate won...

Maybe they were chastened by the fact a candidate won the nomination with < 30% of the delegates and went on to lose > 97% of the states in the general election.

Any way, they better have a damn good reason to steal the nomination from the person with the most votes and pledged delegates.

[hobbit709]

56. Maybe you should read Thomas Frank's book.

[geek tragedy]

53. Ok, then why is Bernie wasting everyone's time begging them

to steal the nomination?

[Henhouse]

45. +1

[LiberalFighter]

30. That is one of many reasons. But not necessarily the most important one.

Primary History

[Lizzie Poppet]

49. To ensure the party leadership makes the actual call.

Democracy is just so quaint.

[Recursion]

81. If you're curious, it was to prevent another Carter

Carter entered the convention as a plurality candidate. The supers were invented in a time when 3+ contesting campaigns showing up was commonplace.

[brush]

153. They were created so we don't have another no-chance-at-winning candidate like . . .

McGovern.

The repugs hope they had super delegates now.

[djean111]

5. This woman will not be supporting a Third Way warmonger. Male or female.

What delusional arrogance, to think that gender matters more than issues. That is, actually, insulting to women.

[A Little Weird]

33. I agree with you

When a woman becomes president, it should be because she's the best choice, not because she's a woman. Clinton is very obviously not the best choice.

[ashtonelijah]

38. And 13 million votes say she is the best choice, while only 10 million agree with you.

So deal with it.

[A Little Weird]

47. The voters were wrong about George W too

It happens sometimes.

[demwing]

6. I thought this was about issues, now I see it's about penises

Silly me

[ashtonelijah]

9. Glad you're starting to understand how chauvinistic bro logic works.

[demwing]

21. Tell you what, I'll vote for the candidate that is best on the issues

And you vote for the candidate whith the approved genitallia...

And we wonder why so few people in the US bother to vote

[Hydra]

75. Yup, they kept saying it wasn't about having the first Female President

While saying that was her biggest qualification and made her not part of the establishment.

[nadinbrzezinski]

109. It was never about issues

why they are allergic to issues. We get what we deserve in this theater of manufactured consent.

[Beacool]

156. There have been 44 "penises" in the WH.

Next year there will be a vagina in the Oval Office. She won it fair and square.

[imagine2015]

7. Clinton might win it. We won't know before the convention.

Most women don't support Hillary. They support Bernie.

[LoverOfLiberty]

108. That's an outright falsehood

Most women certainly do not support Sanders.

[lunamagica]

114. Not true. Most women support Hillary. Among black wimen, the support has reached over 80%

or is that they don't count?

I'll tell you how much they count. Did you know Black women are the most reliable voters? That they are the biggest voting block?
You can count on them to show up to vote. And they are, millions and millions of them, supporting Hillary

[brush]

154. And you have something to back up that claim about women?

That has a bogus ring to it if I ever heard one.

[Beacool]

157. You know that you're wrong, right?

[CrowCityDem]

10. No surprise. Bernie is completely tone deaf when talking about people who aren't white men.

[TheCowsCameHome]

34. Idiotic post winner of the week

and it's only Sunday morning.

[ashtonelijah]

39. Of course he is. Which is why he, like Trump, had to rely so heavily on white men to win anything.

[floppyboo]

85. If the democratic nominee wants to beat Trump in the swing states, they better have the white male

vote this cycle. according to many analysts. Here's a fun game to play from one of Hillary's favs Nate Silver. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/
He suggests the big thing to focus on is education, not ethnicity. How well does Hillary do with the working class male? And yes, I am suggesting that the working class probably doesn't have the majority of PhD's

[Henhouse]

46. +1

[elljay]

11. First time in history a non-Christian has come this far

Nah, let's give it to another Christian. You know, the very large religion that has exterminated tens of millions of people who refused to join it. The religion that destroyed hundreds, maybe thousands of cultures everywhere it has gone. The religion that many Americans believe should be superior in this county. Why make history by electing a Jew, a member of a faith that has not yet recovered from having more than one third of its members exterminated by Christians in WW2, while Christians in the US refused them sanctuary?

And you really think that non-Christians would be cool with this? With once again electing a member of a majority oppressive faith instead of a minority?

So many things one can do with your ridiculous and insulting argument......

[ashtonelijah]

17. Except, the non-Christian lost by 3 million votes.

"Coming this far" isn't far enough, as Hillary learned in 2008.

[demwing]

24. oh, that lie?

Thanks for the reveal, and buh bye

[ashtonelijah]

41. Bernie argument #178: "MATH IS A LIE! Numbers are establishments pawns that can't be trusted!"

[geek tragedy]

57. Except the non-Christian lost the voting--you know the part

that liberals are supposed to think counts.

[Feathery Scout]

107. A nonChristian Mormon was nominated in 2012 by the Republican Party.

[elljay]

124. My point

Is that the poster made bigoted comments. I'm not going to get into a theological discussion of whether the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is Christian enough for you. Those of us who support Bernie are not doing so because we are opposed to a woman president. And, his being white is also irrelevant. We just don't support her positions and I'm sick and tired of being insulted by disrespectful people who cannot accept that other people simply disagree with her politics. Many Bernie supporters have voted for Jill Stein in the past and were involved in trying to draft Elizabeth Warren and it is ludicrous to make sweeping accusations that they are sexist (and many of us happen to also be women.) I haven't seen arguments of. DU that Hillary supporters are antisemite voting against Bernie's religion, but many Hillary supporters accusing us of being sexist. You are perfectly entitled to agree with Hillary's positions. I respect your right to do so and I disagree because I am much more progressive than she is in all ways. I expect Hillary supporters to accord me the same amount of respect without the stupid and counterproductive insults to my motivations.

[Feathery Scout]

141. I was merely stating that your statement is incorrect.

A non-Chrisitian has already been nominated by a major party for the Presidential nomination.

Whatever else you wish to read into it, is your choice.

Peace.

[elljay]

162. NP. Got steamed by the OP

and should have known better than to answer while trying to shop at the Farmers' Market! BTW, Bing cherries are very early this year, not that there is such a thing as climate change......

And, not to disparage the wonderful progressive parties, the Green Party's candidate for the past two elections has been Jill Stein, who is Jewish (their prior candidate was an African American woman, Cynthia McKinney) and the Peace and Freedom candidate for 2012 was another Jewish woman, Rosanne Barr. The Democrats and Rwpublicans are far behind the curve, as usual.

[BillZBubb]

12. Racism and sexism in ONE POST! FWIW, Hillary is white SO HOW IS THAT RELEVANT?

Pathetic OP.

[uponit7771]

16. pathetic = intimating white male privilege doesn't exist

[ashtonelijah]

18. Because white males are the most privileged people on earth

And some still cannot accept the fact that anyone not white and male could beat them -- especially not a woman.

[BillZBubb]

31. Your point is bullshit with respect to Sanders. It has nothing to do with race or gender.

It has everything to do with policies (where Bernie is FAR superior) and character (where Hillary is dishonest and corrupt). I would eagerly support a black, Hispanic, or Asian woman over Hillary, but one is not available in the race.

[MillennialDem]

100. Yes, Bernie and his supporters are the ultimate sexists. Give me a fracking break.

[SwampG8r]

127. The most priveledged person on earth is hillary clinton

A decades long history of monumental poor judgement.

[uponit7771]

13. +1, and give it to that person cause they "feel" the system the long shot black guy won with in 08..

..is rigged

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. And what does "white" dude have to do with anything?

Hmmm?

[ashtonelijah]

19. Bernie and his supporters continue rejecting the role that race & sex plays in US society

And you wonder why you couldn't gain more traction with minorities and relied so heavily on white men?

[HooptieWagon]

28. Most Sanders supporters are from Warren support.

And many Sanders supporters are going to vote for Jill Stein. Too bad that doesn't fit the sexist propaganda you're trying to spread.

[TheCowsCameHome]

29. Stop.

Just &^%*^# stop.

You have no clue. None.

[PowerToThePeople]

20. Second time in recent history,

a neo-liberal Clinton may win the party nomination.

Nah, give it to the Democratic-socialist. Much better choice imo.

[HooptieWagon]

23. Ethics more important than genltalia.

Sanders supporters would be fine with Warren...in fact most were Warren supporters. Too bad that doesn't fit your 'BernieBros so sexist' script.

[Sky Masterson]

27. Is the woman white too?

Does the same woman have a history of being on the wrong side of history until it polls well against a guy who has been on the right side of the issues since 4 ever?
Because if you are talking about a person born as a woman in a generic sense being replaced by a person born as a generic male than your argument might hold a little weight without examining the positions of the generic two.
Hopefully we can get past race and gender and focus on character over characterizations.
Also, she hasn't won yet. That happens at the convention.

[geek tragedy]

58. If she wins the voting, she has won the primary contest.

All that matters is whether Sanders respects the votes of those who chose her.

If not, he doesn't deserve any respect

[99Forever]

32. My insurmountable problems with ALL Clintons...

... have nothing to do with their genitals. But if you have to fantasize that it's so, go right ahead and live in delusion. Don't mean shit to a tree.

[Nye Bevan]

67. You're equating gender with "genitals" now?

Transgender individuals might well find that offensive.

[99Forever]

70. I'm not the one falsely playing the gender card.

You got a fucking problem with that, take it up with the OP.


Mmmmmmmmmmmmm punkin'?

[ashtonelijah]

74. A Bernie supporter fails to understand issues that affect a minority group?

Pass the smelling salts.

[99Forever]

77. Oh please.

Fucking strawman much?

Welcome to Ignore.

Bub bye.

[MillennialDem]

98. No, we don't. Not in the way 99 did it anyway.

[Waiting For Everyman]

36. And how many have been UNDER FBI INVESTIGATION?

Does this not register? Is there some reason why you can't understand this is a big deal?

It matters. It's not ok. It will likely ruin this whole election for Dems.

And guess who did it, without any help, and covered it up until it was too late to fix it?

[Different Drummer]

102. Good post! n/t

[HERVEPA]

37. Go back under your rock. As dumb as "she is trying to take it from the first Jewish pres candidate"

[ashtonelijah]

43. Except, he's 3 million votes and around 175 pledged delegates behind. Doesn't work ;)

[HERVEPA]

50. Doh! I'm talking about the Jewish vs. woman thing. Can you understand that part?

[PeaceNikki]

59. You'd have a point if he were leading by hundreds of delegates and she was pushing SD's

to overturn the will of the people.

But, that's not what's happening.

[HERVEPA]

76. No. The push against Hillary is not because she's a woman. It's because of her policies.

And, she's going to be the nominee, so irrelevant. And though I dislike her I will certainly vote for her over Trump.
For many reasons, including that women's rights would certainly suffer with a Trump Supreme Court.

[PeaceNikki]

78. It doesn't matter if the push to overturn the will of the people is or is not BECAUSE she's a woman,

but it's still a fact that for the first time in history, a woman is winning a major party nomination and some people want to stop that.

[HERVEPA]

80. And almost none of that is because she's a woman, and most all because of her policies and practices

[PeaceNikki]

82. i get that... but

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2129236

[LWolf]

42. As a woman,

I hope to see a woman president before the end of my life.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is not that woman. I have known that about her since the '90s. I'm not going to vote for, nor support in any way, a candidate based on gender when she fails most or all of my actual criteria for earning my vote, which is based on issues, not identity.

I'll be upfront: my support for Sanders has less to do with Sanders and everything to do with issues. In the spring of '15, all I wanted was a non-neo-liberal to run against HRC in the primaries. I didn't care who; any candidate who was not a neo-liberal would have done. I think Sanders stepped forward because he saw that need, and nobody else came forward. I embraced his candidacy with relief.

He's done so much better than I ever thought he could. I am inspired and energized by his campaign. I will continue to support him until the convention is over, and then I'll support him on whatever path he finds himself. I want him there until the end.

The bottom line: Hillary Clinton never had my support, is never going to get my support, and as a woman I find the whole effort to use her gender as a reason to nominate her or put her in the WH despite her many, many flaws when it comes to issues and record to be repugnant and a betrayal of what feminism should be about. It should not be about entitlement because of gender.

And speaking of arrogance...Hillary Rodham Clinton is the most arrogant Democratic candidate I can remember since the other Clinton. That arrogance, and the arrogance of the party establishment, and the extreme arrogance of her supporters, doesn't win any support from those who aren't already "with" her.

[99Forever]

55. Perfect.

Well stated. Thanks.

[LWolf]

60. You're welcome! nt

[Locrian]

68. thank you

how many times does it have to be said that a lot of us DO NOT SUPPORT HRC ON THE ISSUES.

does it really come down to that if hrc was a male that a lot of "her" supporters would not BE supporters?

[djean111]

69. Agree totally.

Hillary supporters are desperately trying to make this about Bernie, when it is about the issues.

And there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that, if Warren had run, instead of Bernie - which would have rendered all of their sexist fucking bullshit useless - Hillary's campaign would have been dragging out the Pocahontas stuff. Issues mean absolutely nothing to them.

[pmorlan1]

93. As a woman myself

I too agree with what you wrote. Thank you.

[LWolf]

132. You're welcome. nt

[Different Drummer]

117. Wonderful!

You expressed it much better than I ever could have.

[ncliberal]

119. Perfect response.

I'm a woman also and agree with everything you said.

[indigoth]

51. Except ...

"
First time in history, a woman wins a major party nomination?! Nah. Give it to a white dude.

That is essentially the mantra of the Bernie Sanders campaign right now."

Not true. Her being a woman has NOTHING to do with it. Nor has it EVER had anything to do with it. Any, and just about every, Bernie support knows that.

[Lizzie Poppet]

54. Identity politics is for the shallow. (nm)

[oberliner]

61. She is also white

Why bring race into it when both candidates in question are the same race?

[Lizzie Poppet]

63. It furthers the despicable lie that Bernie's not supportive of POC.

"Anything to win."

[cherokeeprogressive]

62. Essentially the mantra my fucking ass. Ain't no Sanders supporters talking about dicks.

That would be exclusively a Clinton supporter thing.

[CobaltBlue]

64. ashtonelijah—Your OP sounds like Election 2016 is about…

electing the nation’s first female president.

If Hillary Clinton had not run, and governors Nikki Haley, from South Carolina, or Susana Martinez, from New Mexico, would have done so…would you have voted for either of them?

[ashtonelijah]

72. Quite the contrary. Opposition to Hillary's legitimate win is about restoring white male dominance.

[Lizzie Poppet]

84. Complete and utter bullshit.

Opposition to Hillary's candidacy is based, overwhelmingly, on her (piss-poor) record of warmongering and catering to corporate interests, and her well-demonstrated lack of character. Claiming it has racist roots is simple-minded slander.

[Different Drummer]

118. Really?! And here I was thinking

that opposition to Hillary was based on character issues. I learn something new here every day!

[SMC22307]

149. Hey, if the white male was right about Iraq, Wall Street abuses and...

protecting the social safety net for all Americans, then bring on the dominance. Hillary was wrong on Iraq, is in the pocket of Wall Street, and can't be trusted on protecting the social safety net.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

66. What's gender or race have to do with it?

[Warren Stupidity]

71. I don't care about universal health care, ending perpetual war, k-16 public education,

expanding social security or actually doing something to get us off fossil fuels. No Dammit, the important thing is penis vs vagina! That plus I'm pretty sure only white males between the ages of 20-40 will benefit from any of this free stuff paid for by taxing people like me, which is why Bernie is a racist.

This is why I am a sensible centrist for Clinton.

[ashtonelijah]

73. I'm a white man, by the way, since all of you bros are getting so offended

[MillennialDem]

99. Berniebros is a myth

[ecstatic]

79. Exactly. nt

[stillwaiting]

86. This argument is ridiculous. That is all. Oh yeah. Bye! nt

[amborin]

87. this is YOUR divisive racial and identity politics, throughout the entire campaign, HRC supporters u

se these divisive tactics

[grasswire]

88. oh the woman card again!!!!!

Got anything real to discuss?

[ashtonelijah]

94. Typical Trump argument.

You must be ready to jump on the Trump train if you've already begun to use his rhetoric.

[SMC22307]

150. More like 242 posts since October 2012, with 52 in the past 90 days.

Someone's been brought back to life!

There's been talk of the new system once we're in GE mode. Wonder if that includes elimination of socks?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

90. Exhibit A: Margaret Thatcher, Britain's first woman Prime Minister.

Do I need to continue?

[SDJay]

91. It's a Silly Position

Trotting out the 'if you don't support HRC you're a sexist' crap is no different than saying that if you don't support Bernie then you're an anti-Semite. It's stupid and completely counterproductive.

[MillennialDem]

95. Oh screw off... I'm a trans woman and would love a female president. But I just think Bernie is

the best person for the job.

He's also secular and jewish, those are firsts as well (I'm not jewish, just secular)

[Gothmog]

96. This is a big deal

[Eric J in MN]

101. Things which have happened before

- a warmonger in the White House
- a Wall St loyalist in the White House
- an energy company loyalist in the White House

[floppyboo]

125. ^this^ now STFU

[yourout]

103. Complete and udder shit stirring by a low count poster. Get this crap out of here.

[Ed Suspicious]

105. You weren't so hopped up on the Palin express when that woman had a chance at the VP position.

[rickford66]

106. To be fair it shoulld be a Black, Gay, Jewish Woman.

[Miles Archer]

116. Racism + Sexism in one post. Nice job, Nice flamebait.

"That is essentially the mantra of the Bernie Sanders campaign right now."

No, sorry to disappoint you...the "mantra" is not "Give it to a white dude."

White dude?

Not even going to touch that one.

Just a really low level of discourse all around.

And she doesn't earn the nomination because she's a woman. She earns the nomination because she earns the nomination.

[AgingAmerican]

120. She is white and he is an ethnic minority

I don't vote based on gender, I vote based on ideas

[Seeinghope]

121. The nternational star quality woman against a virtual unknown Jewish man running for

President of the United States.

The unknown Jewish white man has captured the hearts and spirits of so many of the voters. Bringing in new voters and Independents alike: showing a strong appeal against the politically backed heavyweight. Lasting their whole contest, even though many want him to just give up because he is trailing behind, he still valiantly remains standing against all of the brutal attacks by the heavy weight and her backers. He is not a quitter will not fold over to the "mighty" establishment he will stand for the hope of giving the people a voice for as long as he can and to maybe give a final knockout punch.

[Hiraeth]

122. give it ?! lordy me. funny shit here. lol

[Robbins]

123. why would bernie supporters get behind her

with the massive voter fraud commited by clintons,DNC,and Dem establishment.

CLinton is first presidential candiate subject to fbi investigation with massive disapproval numbers.

your racist attacks on bernie and his supporters show why many bernie supporters won't support her.

[onecaliberal]

126. Nice lies you've got there, but that is all you and your candidate have.

When the truth comes out she'll need a pardon.

[Lil Missy]

128. Nevermind the nominee is a woman. The important thing is that she is the best qualified. n/t

[coyote]

129. Yeah just give it to a female representative of the oligarchy

Instead of someone who would really fight for the people's best interest.

[hellofromreddit]

130. Electing Obama did not solve the race issue.

Electing Hillary won't solve the gender issue.

Gay rights were achieved by hard work at all levels (and not with Hillary's help); not by electing some figurehead. The same goes for every major and minor achievement in civil rights. The demographics of the people in office never matter. Their policies do.

So giving up policy for the sake of demographics is putting the cart before the horse and therefore useless. I'm supporting Sanders because he's pushing good policy, not because I hate women.

[Turin_C3PO]

131. White woman vs Jewish man.

Gender minority or ethnic and religious minority, either would be historic.

[seabeyond]

133. Clinton won the start, thru the middle, thru out the primary. Has won a major party. Sanders cannot

hand Clinton her victory. He refuses.

First woman to become the nominee of a major party to run in GE, shattering another glass ceiling. And it is all about Sanders.

[AgingAmerican]

136. Wrong, Sarah "Word Salad" Palin won the VP nomination in 2008

Did ya vote for her?

[TheKentuckian]

137. OK...fine we agree to accept Barbara Lee as the parachute nominee. Square deal?

[pdsimdars]

138. Waht does gender have to do with anything?

Take the gender out of it. The candidate has the worst favorablilty of any candidate in Democratic history. The candidate is under FBI criminal investigation.

Opposes single payer
Opposes Glass-Steagall
Opposes $15 minimum wage
In favor of death penalty
Wants to send special forces into Syria and have a no-fly zone
Opposes legalization of marijuana
Opposes free tuition universities
Supports Clinton-Gingrich welfare reform
Supports fracking
Supports Patriot act and thinks Snowden is a criminal
Wants to make flag burning a Felony.

to all this bull shit, you say, "yea, but she's a girl."
to which I and every THINKING Democrat say, "How shallow are you?"

[Matt_R]

140. So... its... a... popularity... contest... WTF...

Elvis never did no drugs.

[azurnoir]

142. Geraldine Ferraro won the VP nomination in 1984

are you discounting her?

[ashtonelijah]

143. I didn't realize Hillary and Bernie were running for Vice President.

[azurnoir]

144. so you're discount Ms Ferrero is this #notgoodenoughGeraldine?

[ashtonelijah]

146. Did Geraldine Ferraro win the nomination for president? Did Dem primary voters vote for her?

[azurnoir]

147. she won the nom for VP

[bettyellen]

145. I feel like he knows she can't laugh him out of the race the way a male candidate could...

[LexVegas]

148. Notice how the standards have changed for clinching? nt

[wendylaroux]

151. so what's the charge today? are we anti woman or racists?

both??!!

[apcalc]

152. And not only thaT...pick a candidate by POLLS....

[Fumesucker]

158. It wouldn't surprise me to see that happen

The funny thing is though that the Hillary supporters would be fine with it while the Bernie supporters would squeal like pigs.

[Beacool]

159. Hillary will be the first woman nominee of a major party for one reason, she WON.

Those who don't agree can whine all they want, but it doesn't change facts.

[bravenak]

160. .

[felix_numinous]

161. Sarah Palin ran also

it's what's inside that counts, to think otherwise IS sexism.