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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:24 AM Jun 2016

The same media that lied us into war, is happy to spread lies to support a pro-war candidate.

For those of you who remember the creepy run-up to the War in Iraq, when the media basically became Pravda-like in their advocacy of anyone and anything that was pro-war, and in their condemnation of anyone or anything that opposed the war, you know how absolutist - and yes, totalitarian - the mainstream media can be.

Is the mainstream media not still backed by pro-war corporations? Then wouldn't it make sense for them to do whatever it takes to stop an anti-war candidacy? How can they have their next war, if they don't elect a pro-war candidate???

Things are a little different now with the internet, but the mainstream media still holds sway in popular opinion as the arbiter of what is true or not. Even though there are millions of voices of dissent being heard, many voices challenging the "official" story, most people still rely on the mainstream media outlets to learn "the truth". My advice: think for yourselves. Use your common sense.

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The same media that lied us into war, is happy to spread lies to support a pro-war candidate. (Original Post) reformist2 Jun 2016 OP
Oh get over it StarTrombone Jun 2016 #1
Yeah. Same media never mentioned NSAM 263 and NSAM 273. Octafish Jun 2016 #4
I know, I know. I should just get with the program, and root for our party's pro-war candidate reformist2 Jun 2016 #5
Obama was the anti-war candidate StarTrombone Jun 2016 #8
All I can do is support the one who at least talks the talk. Obama *seemed* anti-war. reformist2 Jun 2016 #9
I thought it very interesting when President Barack Obama didn't Tikki Jun 2016 #11
And what do you think now StarTrombone Jun 2016 #15
Better than bush as a person, an American and a President. Tikki Jun 2016 #17
I never bought the hype StarTrombone Jun 2016 #19
More people protested against war in Iraq before it started snot Jun 2016 #2
It's good to remind people of this, as it shows the disinformation campaign the media is capable of. reformist2 Jun 2016 #3
The bureau of Infotainment and Propaganda farleftlib Jun 2016 #6
Corporate media sucks. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #7
Anyone who is paying attention knows what's going on Hydra Jun 2016 #10
what is? reddread Jun 2016 #13
Another Clinton Legacy of Destruction n/t 2banon Jun 2016 #14
phony bernie and his endless votes to prop up the MIC gets a pass from the bernie crowd as usual nt msongs Jun 2016 #12
Friends. Octafish Jun 2016 #16
Totally remember, that's when I found KPFA, Democracy Now! and DU n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #18
I find it interesting that the people who regularly cite RT.com in the DU... Tarc Jun 2016 #20
 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
1. Oh get over it
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jun 2016

The media was just as fooled by LBJ's lies about the Gulf of Tonkin as congress and the rest of us.

Nobody wanted to believe that the President would fool us like that

Oh, he was slick that guy

Hey Hey LBJ

How many kids did you kill today

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Yeah. Same media never mentioned NSAM 263 and NSAM 273.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jun 2016

Last year, The Nation magazine wanted to know "Why don't Americans know what really happened in Vietnam?" Interesting read, it brings up how much USA uses the volunteer military and observes the corporate owned news media don't want to bring that up so that people continue to thank the troops for their service without wondering why they're tasked with missions in 133 countries around the world. What the article missed and people need to know:

JFK ordered withdrawal from Vietnam. LBJ reversed it four days after Dallas.



In National Security Action Memorandum (NSAM) 263 JFK orders everybody out...





The 1,000 advisors were the beginning. All US military personnel were to be out of the country by the end of 1965, reported James K. Galbraith.

Then in NSAM 273, four days after the assassination in Dallas, LBJ changes the policy to stay and support South Vietnam in its "contest against the externally directed and supported Communist conspiracy."







That important part of the Vietnam story doesn't get repeated anywhere near enough, even on DU. Thanks for remembering, StarTrombone.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
5. I know, I know. I should just get with the program, and root for our party's pro-war candidate
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jun 2016

Who is much, much, better than their party's pro-war candidate!
 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
8. Obama was the anti-war candidate
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

He was even awarded a Nobel Peace Prize

Airstrikes Launched Against ISIS From USS Harry Truman
It’s the first time airstrikes have been conducted from the Mediterranean since the invasion of Iraq in 2003


Who did you support back then?


Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Airstrikes-Launched-Against-ISIS-From-USS-Harry-Truman--381891681.html#ixzz4AixblJpX

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
11. I thought it very interesting when President Barack Obama didn't
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jun 2016

seem to care about looking further for the weapons of mass destruction but kept up the fateful hunt for bin laden.




Tikki

 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
15. And what do you think now
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

That he's no better than Bus*?

Do you have any idea what the White House Nobel Peace Prize polisher gets paid a year?

Fool me once, shame on — shame on you.
Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
17. Better than bush as a person, an American and a President.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jun 2016

You have asked some questions in this thread. I can't answer the question about polish.

You did ask someone in this thread who they supported back then...since you put it out there, can you answer the same question?


Tikki

 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
19. I never bought the hype
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jun 2016

In Arizona we had 7 or 8 choices for president and vp on the ballot

I think I went with the green party

snot

(10,496 posts)
2. More people protested against war in Iraq before it started
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jun 2016

than during the entire Viet Nam war.

We weren't ALL fooled.

Obama wasn't fooled.

And yes, the media are owned.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
3. It's good to remind people of this, as it shows the disinformation campaign the media is capable of.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
10. Anyone who is paying attention knows what's going on
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jun 2016

Watching the MSM is like feeding your mind garbage. It's not unlike eating Monsanto products...and it has the same root cause. Too much owned by too few, so most of what we are provided comes from them.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
20. I find it interesting that the people who regularly cite RT.com in the DU...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jun 2016

complain about anything being "Pravda-like".

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