2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI do not expect Bernie to do anything but force Hillary to be more progressive she's trying to move
back to the right. She wants to go back to being a conservative so bad.
That is my problem with corporate democrats, they pretend to be progressive until we have no more options and then they show their true colors.
She just gave a speech on why we need more intervention. I'm sorry but that is insanity, the only thing intervention is accomplishing is creating more enemies. We should all have military fatigue. We've been in war since the Europeans stole this very land we reside on. It would be nice if she advocated for bringing all of our military abroad home.
Bernie is right we need radical change, it's not coming and this country and the planet will pay the price for it.
Climate change doesn't wait for incremental change or change wrapped up in regressive policies.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)fix the problem.
PatrickforO
(14,558 posts)be f**ked.
However, that possibility does not give us the excuse not to keep trying. Thus, I am with you. I'm SO tired of having to hold my nose to vote for a candidate who sucks incrementally less than the their opponent.
In a sense, Clinton is lucky she will be running against Trump because if her opponent were Romney or Ryan, she would lose badly because she is such a weak candidate.
Against Trump she might be able to pull it out, simply because he is insane.
But as you say, that still leaves us as we are: our children debt slaves from college student loans, our Social Security in peril, a healthcare system that provides shitty, rationed care for a premium price higher than any other advanced nation pays, the forever war, the giant domestic 'security' spy apparatus and global warming.
As a species, we suck.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)actually become a progressive. (Economically)
Snarkoleptic
(5,996 posts)Etch a sketchy.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Any statement she makes now that sounds moderate is a hoax that will be discarded the second Bernie drops out of the race.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)Trump v. Clinton, Sanders will see his influence rapidly diminish. Now is his best time to try and bargain to get his causes heard.