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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:58 PM Jun 2016

"The hate mail has started up again"

James Zobgy reports on bombings, threats, and hate mail he has faced for supporting Palestinian rights over the years. He says the hate mail has started up again since being named to the Democratic Party platform committee after a recommendation by Bernie Sanders.

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When I spoke in favour of a two-state solution in 1988, before this position became fashionable, I was told: “You’ll never have a place in this party again". Following that year’s convention, Michael Dukakis rejected the endorsement of our Arab American Democratic Federation saying “it was too controversial". When, in 1990, Ron Brown, then Chair of the DNC, came to speak at an Arab American event I was hosting, he told me that he was threatened with a loss of support “if you even go into the room with those people".

And then there is the violence. The first time I received a death threat was 1970. My office was firebombed in 1980 and after 9/11 three men went to jail for threatening my life and the lives of my children. In every instance, the perpetrators claimed to be striking out for reasons to do with my ethnicity or Israel. Now, in the wake of the announcement of my platform committee assignment, the hate mail has started up again.

Even beyond this danger, by silencing my community and marginalising us because we might dare to advocate for Palestinians, there is the damage that this hysteria does to the national discourse. For example, I have been denounced for criticising Benjamin Netanyahu, but my writings on this subject are similar to those written by Israelis. At issue is not what we are saying, but that we are the ones saying it. We are accused of “singling Israel out", while in reality it is our critics who single out this issue as one we can’t discuss.

Mr Sanders has brought the matter of Israel-Palestine into the national debate. It belongs there and deserves to be discussed without fear.

I am proud that Mr Sanders has demonstrated the courage to do this and I am confident that the platform committee can forge a new consensus that reflects the will of the majority of Democrats on all of the critical issues – including the way forward to achieve a lasting solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/comment/bombs-threats-hate-mail-and-the-pro-israel-crowd#page2
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"The hate mail has started up again" (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 OP
I find it hard to defend Zogby, a proponent of Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions Tarc Jun 2016 #1
Is this you failing to condemn the hate mail and bombing threats? Or perhaps you even approve? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #2
Wait...there were also bombing threats? annavictorious Jun 2016 #5
There were in the past; it is unclear whether Tarc condemns those as well, or not. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #6
Saying that you find it hard to defend an individual annavictorious Jun 2016 #9
It is very similar. Defending him in this context is defending him against bomb threats. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #10
I don't really care what he has received, any more than I care that Trump supporters Tarc Jun 2016 #13
Disgusting statement, but not surprising given the source. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #14
Sorry, but ol' Zogby has said some deeply offensive and anti-Israeli things over the years Tarc Jun 2016 #15
I actually agree with you here... Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #7
And what happens if the "new consensus that reflects the will of the majority of Democrats" annavictorious Jun 2016 #3
I don't think people are necessarily supposed to accept things. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #4
The will of a majority of Democrats has often been unacceptable, ask LBJ about that. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #12
Recommended Cheese Sandwich saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #8
How is this related to the OP? annavictorious Jun 2016 #11
that's probably what they were thinking Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #16
Pro-Israel often comes off as anti-Muslim for some reason Fumesucker Jun 2016 #17
 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
5. Wait...there were also bombing threats?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

They weren't mentioned in either the article or the OP.

Glad to hear that you are willing to condemn hate mail, given the abuse that both super delegates and Democratic state party officials have had to endure.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
9. Saying that you find it hard to defend an individual
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

is not the same as saying you do not condemn bomb threats against that person, but for some reason you immediately jumped to that conclusion.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
10. It is very similar. Defending him in this context is defending him against bomb threats.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

In a situation with a bomb threat, we no longer have an intellectual exchange, so we must be defending a person's right to exist without harm.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
13. I don't really care what he has received, any more than I care that Trump supporters
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jun 2016

got egged and disrupted.


Tarc

(10,472 posts)
15. Sorry, but ol' Zogby has said some deeply offensive and anti-Israeli things over the years
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016
Comparing Israeli actions against Palestinians to the Holocaust, praising Hezbollah terrorists for being a "resistance movement", and so on. People who spew vitriol that many perceive as prejudiced don't earn a lot of sympathy points.
 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
3. And what happens if the "new consensus that reflects the will of the majority of Democrats"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jun 2016

does not conform to Zogby's vision? Will he still accept it?



 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
4. I don't think people are necessarily supposed to accept things.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

You just vote on it and you win or lose depending on the balance of power in the committee. His side may well lose the platform fight but at least they'll have got the fight on the record.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. The will of a majority of Democrats has often been unacceptable, ask LBJ about that.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

In my lifetime, that majority had to be harshly persuaded when their positions have become unacceptable. That majority voted for DOMA. Should that have just been accepted?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
8. Recommended Cheese Sandwich
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:23 PM
Jun 2016

It is in the opinion section. Here is a related story of a Muslim candidate's desire to run for office:

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/274631-house-candidate-reid-told-me-not-run-because-im-muslim

A Democratic House candidate running in Nevada says Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told him he shouldn't run because he is a Muslim.

"On August 27th, I was told by Harry Reid: 'Let me be blunt, you are not going to be able to win because you are a Muslim,'" Jesse Sbaih wrote in an email to supporters Tuesday, which was also posted on the Daily Kos.

He added that an adviser to Reid also told him he would "have a problem winning, because you are a Muslim."
Sbaih, a lawyer and immigrant from Jordan, is running for Nevada's 3rd District. His accusations were first reported by The Washington Post.

Reid's staffers quickly denied the outgoing Senate Democratic leader made the comment, while acknowledging he met with Sbaih in August.
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