2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAnyone who voted for Hillary in the primaries should not be angry when their job is taken by a robot
or artificial intelligence computer, and they can't find another job to pay for their cost of living. They have noone to blame but themself. Hillary won't give a damn shit about the welfare of the people. Her friends are in the 1%, and they matter more to her. If they wanted someone to care about their ability to put food on the table, they should have voted for Bernie.
msongs
(67,360 posts)neither bernie nor hillary have much or anything to do with the future of robotics. all those millennials in love with their made in china toys have more to do with it than either hillary or bernie
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)and it's not Hillary.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Yes, it does matter to the millions that lived with the threat of socialist governments for the better part of their lives. Only somebody naive about history would not understand that. Millions. And no FDR's policies were Democrat policies, he hated socialists, so please stop trying to claim them.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)go watch Where to Invade Next by Michael Moore.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Or just nothing the haters won't try to lay at her feet. #cheesewiththatwhine?
Henhouse
(646 posts)This is a scary world we live in. I voted for Hillary. Who will stop the robot invasion?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)That Hillary won't give a damn about society when a lot of people will be losing their jobs in the near future because of robots and deep learning artificial intelligence, whereas Bernie will push for social safety nets and possibly even a guaranteed income when the problem becomes large enough. Hillary couldn't have more contempt for Bernie's supporters, she will likely be wanting to punish them by withholding help.
bigtree
(85,975 posts)brush
(53,741 posts)that Sanders is going to stop robot development.
Sort of luddite and sort of . . . well, silly.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)We know the corporations are greedy bastards and it won't matter if it's Bernie at $15 an hour or Hillary at $12 an hour. If they can oust an employee and get it done cheaper with a robot, that's what will happen. Our government will never enact a law that outlaws greed.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Bernie or Hillary?
Vinca
(50,236 posts)If the robot's got your job, you're just plain old fucked.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)And Bernie's a lot more likely to lead that movement than Hillary.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Can't stop progress, But society can work to guarantee that humanistic values and social interests also continue to have a role. Politics both reflects and leads those attitudes.
The phony liberals who Clinton represents don't give a shit, otehr than shrugging their shoulders and saying "too bad."
Andy823
(11,495 posts)I have seen all kinds of "fear tactics" used by the bro's, but now you are trying to tell us that only Bernie can protect us from the robot invasion? You really need more of these.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
I should have guessed that one, but does that mean Hillary is the "Terminator"?
Dem2
(8,166 posts)That's a f****** ridiculous premise, how dare you assume such things.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Dem2
(8,166 posts)I think you just hate Hillary.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Unless you are part of the 1%
Dem2
(8,166 posts)Hating Hillary takes a lot of bravery.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He is anti-technological progress?
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)No President can hinder or even help it along.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
mcar
(42,278 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)interfere with the decisions of private businesses? You want a president who will stop innovation, and R&D for AI systems, and not build the educational skills necessary to be employable in the 21st century? Look, you use the word "progressive" like a cudgel to pound away at everyone, but evidently there is also an asterisk that limits just how "progressive" you are, and while that might be good enough for you, it won't put any food on anyone's table.
Tarc
(10,472 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)They ARE robots! (Kidding!)
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Great, I get to have no sympathy for you guys.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Or does one already have it?
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)I'm far too old, but if I were young today, I'd either go to school and learn how to build, program and repair robots, or I'd take up a trade.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Doing that has enabled me to keep my career as a music producer continuing into my late sixties
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Is that Hillary's fault too ? Geez, get a clue.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)msongs
(67,360 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Sancho
(9,067 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Great Ad!
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)because they won't be able to find a job due to the artificial intelligence and robotics revolution, and Hillary won't offer any social safety net to help them. How compassionate!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... are covering the earth in tin foil.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)and automated kiosks, like nothing else. When the cost of a human cashier pretty much doubles overnight the economics of installing automatic checkouts become vastly more compelling.
Ace Rothstein
(3,144 posts)They went from 6 self service checkouts to 2. Was nice to see.
andym
(5,443 posts)Economics being what it is-- as the AI robots become cheap enough and technology improves they will be used more and more, and not just for low level jobs-- AI has been designing physics experiments already-- everyone has to worry.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)postatomic
(1,771 posts)Hmmm.... this Hillary human seems interesting.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)My great-grandfather's job as a blacksmith was eventually eliminated by technology. Luckily, he was able to find other employment. This is what is going to have to happen in every generation. It is the way the world works if we want to keep improving ourselves.
Spazito
(50,151 posts)It's all kinds of wonderful!
greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,144 posts)murielm99
(30,717 posts)Thanks for the laughs, AZ Progressive. This is not as good as the LOLcats, but it is still a good one.
blue neen
(12,319 posts)Bernie Sanders is a smart man. He never would have said to the college students attending his rallies,
"I am going to halt the progress and production of robots when I am elected President!" If he did, those college students would have walked out of the rally.
The reason why is that some of the best and brightest college students are going to school for ROBOTICS ENGINEERING. Schools like Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, Virginia Tech, the University of Pennsylvania are some of the leaders in our country in the field of Robotics. Heck, even the high school kids are into it. They join Robotics Clubs and go to Robotics Competitions that are every bit as competitive as sports events. What do you think these STEM classes are all about?
The plain fact is, if we as a country don't embrace the study and application of Robotics, the rest of the world will leave us far, far behind. It doesn't matter who is elected President; Robotics is here to stay.
I am sorry that your preferred candidate is not winning. It's happened to me in the past, and it can be hard to take, but please stop making untrue assertions. It doesn't help anyone's cause.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)'Cause it all starts with robotic vacuum cleaners.
Sid
Beacool
(30,247 posts)joshcryer
(62,265 posts)While people bitch because consumers want cheap shit.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)...just like Rosie on The Jetson's. What a blessing that will be.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)That worked so well when Combine replaced manual harvesting, or factory looms replaced hand operated looms. Or cars replaced horses. Or.... well you get the picture.
Bernie cannot stop it. No one can. The answer is NOT how to stop it, but what to do for the people getting replaced.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)jamese777
(546 posts)Where can I find one of those robots to do my job while I go vote for Hillary on Tuesday? If the robot can do my job permanently, I'm fine with that.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Hell, I'd hire the KKK if I thought they'd cook for my family and I didn't have to worry about it EVERY FREAKING DAY.
apcalc
(4,462 posts)It will happen. It has happened.
It is happening now.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)Robots will take over jobs no matter who is elected. You need to direct your anger at Google and various other AI companies if you have a bone to pick about that.