2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis Sanders supporter is looking forward to the primaries being over.
If there's a bright side to Sanders not being the nominee, it's the opportunity to forget about this election until November 1, or so. And, even then, care just enough to check how badly Clinton is polling against Trump in Michigan.
Instead of fretting over every headline and poll, I'll spend my summer enjoying the last few months of relative political calm and sensibility before having to face the turmoil of President Trump or another Clinton impeachment.
The last eight years were better than the eight before, and the coming years could have been even better still. But...a different choice was made.
Oh well, what's done is done and I've got a summer to enjoy.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)And, even then, care just enough to check how badly Clinton is polling against Trump in Michigan.
I hope you're terribly disappointed, frankly (and I suspect you will be) --what a rotten thing to say on a board called DEMOCRATIC Underground.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)of the Op was much more up.
seekthetruth
(504 posts).....when I simply spoke out against Hillary's policies which favor further environmental degradation, further economic stratification of our society, and further "America-first" exceptionalist policies towards the Middle East?
We're going to see more war, more money to the top "earners", and more oil train explosions due to continued fracking.
The only winners are the ignorant in this election.
MADem
(135,425 posts)If not, why are you talking about "when I spoke out...?"
My response was tailored to respond, specifically, to the thread creator.
The only winners in this election are the American people, who are going to get the MOST QUALIFIED POTUS of those on offer, and one who will go down in history as one of the best, ever.
Sit over there on the sidelines, and observe, if you don't want to be involved. You'll see.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Rooting for her to lose in the general and rooting for failure when she wins. They covered all of the bases outside of saying she kicked the neighbors dog when she was twelve. They are saving that one for the right moment.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...that she'll likely be impeached even if she wins.
I hope you at least realize that if not defeat, then impeachment, is the goal of the Judicial Watch suit? It's pretty basic Republican strategy.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)She will lose to Trump?
Nothing out there is telling me that. Tough fight? Yes. Declaring a loss as you are? It's not based in anything real. It's an opinion and one I find to be flawed from the start. It's actually not even an opinion on my part. It's a fact that you are reading crystal balls.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...especially in young voters, who need to be inspired just to show up.
That translates into a loss in every modern election.
I welcome you to show a poll that disputes this.
But, hey, like I said, it is what it is now. And if she stays within the MOE in Michigan, as she is now vs. Trump, maybe I can take an anti-emetic and manage to vote for her. I will be there voting for every other Democrat on the ballot.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)She's up +4, and the MOE is 4, that's a statistical tie.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)I don't understand your post.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That is how you have determined Clinton can't win?
Hope that's better.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)too well either. So based oan what you've said, we should just accept the GOP abusing the Impeachment process while letting Rome burn once again like they did when President Obama was sworn into office and the GOP made a conscious decision to let the economy go to hell as a way back into power. How noble.
BTW it is a shame that someone with that much hate in their heart would post under the name of our distinguished President.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)We failed, but we are not to blame.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Please. They've been around forever and have very little to show for it. They're vermin. Who's afraid of a mouse? You put out a trap, SNAP, and toss the lot in the trash.
I think this place will soon hold no charm for you--and your name is so sadly ironic, because once this thing fires up, you're going to see a LOT of BARACK all across AMERICA...campaigning for Hillary CLINTON.
Get used to it, and get used to the phrase "Madam President."
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)actively rooting for someone (which this poster didn't come ANYWHERE near doing) and being realistic about the election.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)So, sorry, Trump very well may win this state.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)And "statistically tied" is a distortion. You don't get to just pretend every poll is actually worse for Clinton than the actual number by whatever the margin of error is.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)How familiar are you with Michigan politics? How long have you lived here?
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I think what the OP was saying is that he/she would check to see if it was close enough in Michigan to feel compelled to vote for her instead of casting a protest vote. Am I right?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Most Americans will be trying to enjoy it while ignoring politics as well. Unfortunately, far too many are unnecessarily struggling to the point they won't be able to enjoy it. That's why I stayed in it after O'Malley dropped out. Clinton was my clear next choice after studying Sanders. Way too important for me to just go enjoy my summer, though there is sure to be some fun.
xynthee
(477 posts)Surely Hillary can't ruin my garden or my TV watching!
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)I'm off to battle the weeds myself.
Learning a valuable lesson in "pre-emergent weed killer" this year.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)ladybugs to try to reduce the aphid infestation.
Besides I found a new and friendlier place to
participate in without smears or lies.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)...then REALLY enjoying a week in Philadelphia.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)are reaching that last stage of acceptance.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)should make peace with our inevitable deaths from impending systemic widespread environmental collapse.
If Bernie wins, we still have a shot at survival. If he doesn't win...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)I am ready to jump in and play, with the First woman President.
Big thumbs up to you. And yes. A higher in all things. Enjoy your summer, you certainly have a solid perspective.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Pick Warren and/or be sure that the repuke controlled congress will impeach Hillary in February
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)It's a tremendous opportunity for them to unite after the whole Trump debacle.
Warren would just make it less likely they'll try to get the votes.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)enjoy hikes and BBQs, and make money with no stress whatsoever, happy Bernie and Warren are re-united against the evils in Washington. Before the bridges fall and roads break up.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)that you will regret seeing the end of this primary?
It's like saying "I'd like for a root canal without anesthesia that lasts way longer!"
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Tried, but couldn't.
But now? No problem. I tend to look away from car crashes.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Thats it.