Declaring Hillary Clinton's 'Historic Moment' Is A Rush To Judgment

[Miles Archer]

Declaring Hillary Clinton's 'Historic Moment' Is A Rush To Judgment

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/raffi/hillary-clinton-campaign_b_10322544.html

The 2016 U.S. presidential nomination race has been one of many surprises, week after week, and probably the first in which the remaining three candidates are often mentioned by their first names. Hillary, Bernie. (and yes, the Donald.)

Tuesday June 7 is the day of the last "Super Tuesday" cluster of state primaries for the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Clinton's presumed coronation (at the start of the primaries some months ago) faced a strong populist challenger in Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Against all odds, the relatively unknown Bernie ignited a flame in the hearts of millions of supporters with his 100 per cent people funded grassroots campaign and a record millions in individual donations. Against the most powerful political establishment (including the likes of former president Bill Clinton and many Democrat VIPs in Congress), Bernie has won primaries all across the country and gained 45 per cent of the pledged delegates to date.

As the infographic below shows, here's the math: 2383 pledged delegates are needed to win the nomination. Hillary has won 1769, and Bernie has won 1501. Her lead is 268. June 4 through June 14: 930 pledged delegates are left to be won. NOTE: neither candidate can clinch the nomination before June 14, and that makes for a 'contested convention' -- one where the candidate is to be chosen in Philadelphia at the end of July.

[Tarc]

1. Still peddling the #berniemath?

The superdelegates will not flip to the pledged delegate loser.

The endorsement as the presumptive nominee will take place a little more thna 24h from now.

There is noting you will do about that.

[geek tragedy]

2. Obama was declared the winner at the exact same time in the campaign, under

the exact same circumstances, except he was much more dependent on superdelegates to put him at a majority of overall delegates.

The election will be decided for good tomorrow. The agreement of dead end Sanders supporters is not required for this to happen.

President Obama himself is going to declare Clinton the winner on Wednesday, if not sooner.

So will the entire world outside the Bernie Bubble.

History will just pass you by.

[KingFlorez]

3. It's over. The convention is a formality.

[Demsrule86]

4. Tomorrow

My three girls and I ...along with my dear son and hubs will celebrate the first woman nominated for the presidency...and nothing you say will stop that so...who cares what you think...oh and your math is off.

[SFnomad]

9. Secretry Clinton won't be the first woman nominated for the Presidency ... but for a major party

she will be the first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_United_States_presidential_and_vice-presidential_candidates

Gracie Allen was the first woman nominated in 1940 for the 'Surprise Party'.

[bvf]

14. The nomination happens at the convention.

Nothing you say can change that.

[SFnomad]

20. No matter how much denial you're in ... it won't change anything. Tuesday, Secretary Clinton WILL

become the Presumptive Nominee ... and if BS drags it out that far, Secretary Clinton WILL become the Democratic Nominee for President on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention.

[bvf]

21. Sanders is not "dragging out" anything.

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-campaign-statement/

He's keeping his word, probably just to piss you off personally.

[randome]

5. Well, just let everyone else be wrong so you can say "I told you so."

So why the touching concern for everyone else?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[joshcryer]

6. You can't use the SD majority with the PD only requirement.

Either you go by the PD only majority, or the SD included majority. Mixing them is dishonest.

Either way Obama didn't even get the PD only majority in 2008, and he still won, with only a 62 PD lead.

[Waiting For Everyman]

7. We should feel sorry for the delusional.

They can't help it.

[aikoaiko]

8. I think its OK for them to call HRC the presumptive nominee by June 15th (even June 8th)

And that they can bask in that historic moment.

I'll be glad it wasn't a Republican who broke through that boundary.

[onenote]

10. In 2008 even Bernie didn't believe in Bernie math.

[pdsimdars]

11. Wrong on all the issues, but many Democrats will overlook that and a criminal investigation

because "she's a girl." Isn't THAT sexist? I mean, that gender is all they are looking at?

[onenote]

12. Actually, it is historic: no woman has ever won a majority of the pledged delegates and

had commitments from a majority of the supers after the last primary/caucus was completed. That's a first.

And not treating that person as the presumptive nominee -- also would be a first.

[loyalsister]

13. She may be a woman but her rhetoric carries the classic US world domination posture of men

Her nationalistic war mongering and arrogance are classic Teddy Roosevelt machismo. There is nothing truly significant or historic about nominating an imperialistic presidential candidate. If she is operating under the old adage of working twice as hard as a man to have credibility, we are in very serious trouble.

[beachbumbob]

15. Lol sanders had no problem in 2008 when it was a black guy....

Sanders express support for the presumptive nominee when he crossed the delegat count...obviously approving of the super delegates role before the convention...only difference this time....it's a woman

[Hokie]

16. Berniemath - Don't you love it!

[SidDithers]

17. Oh good, more #berniemath...

Whoever wins the most pledged delegates will be the nominee.

Period.

Sid

[ContinentalOp]

18. Some people say that counting the SDs before they vote is like calling an election based on a poll

But that's nonsense. A poll is a small sampling of a voters. The superdelegates have individually declared who they're voting for. There's not going to be a surprise. It's not like a bunch of superdelegates we didn't know about are suddenly going to show up! We know how they're going to vote. If we wanted to double-check it would be pretty simple for a news organization to contact all 548 of Clinton's SDs and ask them if they've changed their mind or if they expect to change their mind before the convention.

[Maven]

19. This is pure dishonesty that's been debunked a million times