2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThose absurd claims that ths is "voter suppression" "A coup", etc, Please, GMAB
NBC and AP declaring Hillary the presumptive nominee is NOT voter suppression
There is NO voter suppression. Everyone on the states voting tomorrow is totally, completely free to do so.
NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU.
A coup? Oh, come on.
After claiming for months how strong support for Sanders is, how he is the strongest candidate, how enthusiastic his supporters are...now a simple declaration from NBC and AP is going to stop the enormous tsunami of support for him?
SERIOUSLY? Is this what you call A "revolution"? Have you seen how in countries with REAL revolutions, people risk their LIVES in order to exercise their right to vote? Yes, the danger of possibly DYING is not enough to stop them, but a declaration of media outlets is enough to stop the Sanders revolution.
If you were planning to vote, go ahead and vote...again, NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU.
msongs
(67,395 posts)somehow I doubt there were actually all those millions of voters to begin with
Hokie
(4,286 posts)NT
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... who were allegedly prepared to march on D.C. and take back the country, torches and pitchforks in hand, who whined about not being able to watch their Leader debate on TV if it was scheduled against a "big game".
"If the Tea Party had been held any other night, I would have been there! But the inter-colony turkey shoot finals are on the same night, so regretfully I cannot attend the Revolution."
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It is the Hillary supporter's loss, siting at home watching the big game rather than bothering to watch an unknown go against the inevitable winner. Letting MSM tell them in sound bytes all they needed to know.
I hope this new lawsuit finds them all guilty of fraud.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... to where HRC supporters complained about debates being scheduled "on the night of a big game, or on a night of the office Christmas party, or on the night they were planning to go Christmas shopping"?
In this day and age, complaining that one "can't watch a debate" if it's scheduled on a certain night is beyond ridiculous. There are these devices available where one can record anything on TV and watch it at their leisure. There is also this thing called the internet where people can access a debate at any time.
It was the BSers who whinged incessantly about the debate schedules. If you have links to HRCers complaining that they "couldn't watch" the debates, please provide them.
TIA!
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)I didn't say anything about Hillary peeps complaining. Yes, Sanders people complained knowing it would limit the reach of their message to the unconverted. Show me the links please where you can prove that the demographic Bernie needed is all so tech savvy.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... "It is the Hillary supporter's loss, siting at home watching the big game rather than bothering to watch an unknown go against the inevitable winner. Letting MSM tell them in sound bytes all they needed to know."
The HRC supporters WERE watching the debates, instead of whining that they couldn't do so because the "big game" was on.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Sancho
(9,067 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Once again it is all Hillary's fault.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)GRhodes
(162 posts)We'll be watching you same posters in the GE. If the Republicans do exactly the same things that have been done in this primary, I'm sure you'll be consistent and say nothing, and accept the results without protest, cause you know they're going to do this stuff to you. If it's no big deal now, it will be no big deal then too.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Bernie and co. claimed every single state and territory in he lost was rigged and its total crap
Were there problems in some States? yes and those should be issues discussed and solve as best they can
But its childish trying to claim all the elections were rigged against Bernie
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)That the delegate count went against him. the denial and conspiracy thinking are laughable but par for the course.
Cha
(297,154 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)BootinUp
(47,141 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)LexVegas
(6,059 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Berners were acting like arrogant prigs long before the primaries even started so this isn't about feeling pain because they lost big.
They wanted to dish it out ...it's time for them to man up and quit pouting like babies
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Exit polls are withheld from the public until voting ends to prevent influencing votes. Calling a primary early, even only a little early, is indistinguishable from an attempt to discourage Sanders voters. That it was also technically incorrect only adds to the aroma. That it came from AP also suggests a pattern.
I would hope that the impact will be negligible, but California is a big deal. There is an awful lot of Big Money with an interest in affecting the outcome.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Unless you don't actually believe in your candidate.
It's basically the difference between saying "I don't think people will vote for my candidate, so I'm going to stay home," and "I don't think people will vote for my candidate because they'll go vote for the other one."
There is at least one DUer who is openly on record saying they know their vote won't count or something like that.