These complaints about the AP calling the race? They're saying the EXACT SAME THING at Free Republic

[Lord Magus]

"Superdeletes don't count until the convention." "It's a dirty trick to suppress Bernie votes." The Freepers are saying all of these things. If you're making the same argument as Freepers, shouldn't that give you some pause?

[danimich1]

1. It should give you some pause

If those idiots recognize it but you are in denial.

[Lord Magus]

2. You think Freepers give a damn about election integrity?

They're just interested in smearing Hillary. And they want to prop up Bernie because they think he hurts Hillary.

[840high]

27. I don't think you know

what election integrity is.

[Demsrule86]

8. It makes me glad it is over

The double teaming is done.

[Barack_America]

3. Hmm, interesting.

What's your login over there, I'll go check it out.

Not familiar with that site, how do I find this discussion?

[Lord Magus]

7. No login is needed to view their posts.

And I got banned for trolling the Freepers (by posting their kryptonite: facts) years ago.

[randome]

50. "Sad and petulant is no way to go through life, son."

Is this some 'scorched earth' policy from some of you, now? "I didn't get my way so I'm going to try and insult as many people as possible!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[randome]

59. It shows in your attitude. You're simply dripping with self-confidence and kindness.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[NWCorona]

4. That's your argument?

[Demsrule86]

5. the freepers love them some Bernie

They know they can beat him.

[eastwestdem]

10. Yup. Every repug I know IRL wanted so badly for Sanders to win. nt

[Demsrule86]

11. All the ones I know too

I have no doubt that some of Sander's support comes from the GOP employing operation chaos.

[azurnoir]

40. why yes because we all know that FREEPERs are all for Socialist Free Stuff

[democrattotheend]

16. I actually know some Republicans who like Bernie

Or at least like him better than Trump or Hillary. Not the strategic voting type - they would actually vote for Bernie in November if given the chance. I also met a couple Republicans when I handed out Bernie flyers at the train station during the primary who said they disagreed with him but liked him and would rather have him than Trump.

That said, I doubt the freerepublic types are in that camp.

[KingFlorez]

6. Not surprised

[writes3000]

9. Some of those people post here. Clearly.

[democrattotheend]

17. Really?

I have over 8,000 posts, joined 13 years ago, but because I think the AP jumped the gun and in so doing hurt both of the candidates I'm a plant from freerepublic?

[writes3000]

25. Where did I accuse you? I also think the AP jumped the gun and I support Hillary.

PS - It's pretty apparent who purposefully stirs the pot around here. They're usually new and quite assertive with extreme pronouncements designed to start fights.

[morningfog]

12. Hillary folks seems lost upset, oddly.

[passiveporcupine]

13. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

The fact that you don't understand how the delegates are supposed to work should give you some pause.

If it were just the AP announcement, I'd probably not think it's necessarily connected to Hillary, but the fact that 20+ supers decided to announce support for her, in unison, the night before the Cali vote, that kinda changed my mind. I think this is a party ploy, and AP is in on it.

[democrattotheend]

18. Did the supers actually announce for her?

It doesn't seem like it, which is what is weird. Have a bunch of supers actually publicly announced for her in the last 24-48 hours, or did they just answer the AP's questions?

Even if it's the latter, it could be that the supers decided to tell the AP where they stood earlier because they knew Clinton's internal polling in Cali looked bad and they wanted to minimize the impact.

[passiveporcupine]

19. No, apparently they were called and asked

and somehow one more than needed to "clinch" the nomination (invalid at this point...but hell they do what they want), decided to say Yeah, count me in, but please don't tell anyone I support her. What, are they ashamed to admit it?

Something wicked this way comes.

[TheFarS1de]

14. let's unify the party

By insinuating the Sanders supporters are actually freepers .

[Cheese Sandwich]

15. Hillary's attacks on Sanders health care plan were point for point GOP talking points.

[TheFarS1de]

20. I had to check the website address at one point

I just had to make sure this was not a rethuglican site based on the free stuff mantra they spread everywhere .

[Cheese Sandwich]

22. I got called a sushi eating latte drinking something or other yesterday

On DU. Pretty awesome. Because I said the TPP would hurt American workers. It made literally no sense even as an insult.

I think some of the paid trolls are probably Republicans so those are the insults and talking points they know of.

[TheFarS1de]

23. Well aside from your good taste in food and politicians ....

they are obviously not paying much , a horde of semi literate bullies may get the job done , not so good if you want the people they are attacking to support their candidate however .

[Cheese Sandwich]

24. Their attitude is extremely off-putting

For the past year they've never wanted to talk about issues, only process questions. And when they do talk issues they use Republican talking points and intellectually dishonest arguments.

And I honestly have never tried either sushi or a latte so it was just really strange.

[NanceGreggs]

29. OMG, this is hysterical!

"For the past year they've never wanted to talk about issues, only process questions."

Who has made an issue of "the process" at every turn? "It's rigged! The primaries are closed - they should be open! The DNC is conspiring against me!"

"And when they do talk issues they use Republican talking points.

Ever noticed how many Bernie supporters link to RW sources in order to make a anti-HRC/anti-Dem point? It's not the HRCers who are doing that, is it?

[Cheese Sandwich]

32. you guys don't like talking issues and use dishonest arguments.

[NanceGreggs]

38. Snappy comeback.

It doesn't replace thought and substance - but it's a noble attempt to draw attention away from the lack thereof.

[Cheese Sandwich]

39. it's true. There's no point trying to reason with people who just repeat the same scripted talking

points ad nauseum.

[NanceGreggs]

41. Well, you would know ...

... more about "people who just repeat the same scripted talking points" than most people here.

[Cheese Sandwich]

43. ouch.

you're killin me here

Excellent retort

[AntiBank]

42. Sanders people consistently attack Hillary on policy AND post positive on Sanders policies

In terms of process, the myriad number of dodgy things that happened in the primaries almost always went against Sanders.


The Clinton crew on here pretty much refuse to debate on the issues. Clinton is (or was and probably will be again) absolute shite on many core issues. All they do is fling the systemic process (only the part that favours Hillary) and vote totals around like a big stick.

Yes, I know, it sucks having to support a candidate who is right centre (and neoliberal/neocon-loved) on so many issues whilst being a member of a LEFT liberal chatboard. And don't tell me that this board (and Party) are not supposed to be progressive ffs.

[GoneFishin]

53. .. except they surreptitiously pitch policies which will clearly be on Hillary's agenda if she worms

her way into the WH, without actuall mentioning her name in the posts. They are generally by vocal Hillary supporters, and they pitch obvious neoliberal policies. It's like they are already warming up for defending her real planned agenda for when she stops channeling Bernie.

[mercuryblues]

64. a reminder

on who is saying Clinton supporters don't want to talk about issues:

Clinton did nothing to stop Apartheid as 1st Lady of Arkansas

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511942936

Go fuck yourself

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512090872

Heck, just look at the hides and ask yourself why is it Clinton supporters aren't jumping through hoops to gain his support. He is slacking though. The record hides stands at 24. He has some work to do, to break the record.

[senz]

46. I'm positive they're Repubicans.

"Free stuff" "socialist" "dirty hippies" "get a job" -- everything but "obamaphone." Brock probably warned them not to use that one.

[AntiBank]

30. [phone]

[Scurrilous]

21. Not if you are a freeper.

[MFM008]

26. Free Republic?

[AntiBank]

34. what a silly little thing to say, untrue and smear of Sanders people by association

buh bye

[Fumesucker]

31. You're probably not aware of this but we have long term Freeper right here on DU

We don't need to go to Free Republic to find out what the Freepers think, we can ask our own resident DU Freeper.

[azurnoir]

35. Tee hee

[arikara]

37. Oh just piss off.

n/t

[tarheelsunc]

44. It's really impossible to tell them apart anymore. eom

[senz]

45. Link?

[Lord Magus]

66. I really don't like linking to Free Republic, but here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3437575/posts

[baldguy]

47. No surprises that the two arms of the Not Hillary Party use the same playbook.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. ...

[Sunlei]

49. poor little Rbaggers have to figure out a way to be anti clinton without pretending to be D party.

[Bad Dog]

51. This is what the BBC says.

Hillary Clinton has clinched the Democratic nomination for US president after reaching the required number of delegates, an AP tally suggests.

The count puts Mrs Clinton on 2,383 - the number needed to make her the presumptive nominee.

She will become the first female nominee for a major US political party.

But rival Bernie Sanders said Mrs Clinton had not won as she was dependent on superdelegates who could not vote until July's party convention.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36466228

[Orsino]

52. The Establishment likes simple narratives like winners and losers.

They've been jumping the gun, a little, for quite a while. This is just more of the same.

They'll also turn out to have been right, tnough, if nothing big changes.

[workinclasszero]

54. Its not the first time that teabag freepers and

Bernie followers claimed common ground unfortunately.

[VulgarPoet]

55. So, "shut up or you're a Republican?" And y'all wonder why I won't take coffee with y'all.

/bye

[Vinca]

56. What if something happened to make the superdelegates change their minds?

Does AP then "uncall" the race? This all seems more ratings motivated than news or journalism (whatever the hell that is anymore).

[Darb]

58. That connection has been obvious for months.

Very curious.

[Lizzie Poppet]

60. Holy shit! Next thing you know, they'll claim water is wet.

Camp Weathervane critical thinking skills...

[BobbyDrake]

61. Sounding like Freepers hasn't stopped anyone so far. Why would now be any different?

Haters gonna hate, after all.

[Tarc]

62. I think the vast majority of Bernie supporters are not suckered in by FR's faux sympathies

Some of the weirder elements of the Sanders base like to pretend that there's some sort of commonality between them and the Trumpy fans, a kind of outsider cred. The rest know that, if Bernie were the nominee, they'd turn on him in an instant.

[NorthCarolina]

65. What are you implying by your post? -nt-