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firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:11 PM Jun 2016

Presumptions are Rebuttable

Hillary is the presumptive nominee, because enough PDs have been won, and enough SDs have said how they will vote at the convention. Anyone is free to counter that presumption with evidence that the SDs will switch, or are even open to the possibility of switching. To say that they "can" switch first rebut the presumption it simply means the presumption doesn't become official until the convention.

So, instead of having semantic argument, why not provide evidence that the presumption is untrue?

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Presumptions are Rebuttable (Original Post) firebrand80 Jun 2016 OP
US EPA term used frequently - "rebuttable presumption". But you'd better be prepared. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
The challenge for Senator Sanders jamese777 Jun 2016 #2
This is True Coming from a Clinton Supporter Stallion Jun 2016 #3

jamese777

(546 posts)
2. The challenge for Senator Sanders
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jun 2016

Senator Sanders has made taking on the Democratic Party establishment a central focus of his campaign. As a life long independent, he only joined the Democratic Party a year and a half ago.
The unbound delegates are "Party Leaders and Elelected Officials" who the media has dubbed "Superdelegates." They are the epitome of the Democratic Party's establishment (e.g. Nancy Pelosi, the House Minority Leader just endorsed Hillary Clinton). Hillary Clinton has been a Democrat for 45 years versus Bernie Sanders has been a Democrat for sixteen months. It is highly unlikely that establishment, old school Democrats will switch their publicly stated endorsements from a candidate who won 55% of the popular vote to a candidate who won 43% of the popular vote.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
3. This is True Coming from a Clinton Supporter
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

everybody is getting worked up by semantics but the term Presumptive Nominee is accurate

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