2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAP claims secret superdelegates who wish to remain anonymous said privately they support Clinton!!!!
Why do these super secret superdelegates want to keep their support of Clinton a big secret? Shouldn't they be proud to come out publicly and indicate they intend to vote for Secretary Clinton like 400 other superdelegates have? Why are they shy about their endorsement?
Maybe they want more wiggle room so they can change their minds before they cast their votes on July 25th. imagine2015
Perfect End to Democratic Primary: Anonymous Super-Delegates Declare Winner Through Media
by Glenn Greenwald
June 7, 2016
Last night, Associated Press on a day when nobody voted surprised everyone by abruptly declaring the Democratic Party primary over and Hillary Clinton the victor. The decree, issued the night before the California primary in which polls show Clinton and Bernie Sanders in a very close race, was based on the media organizations survey of super-delegates: the Democratic Partys 720 insiders, corporate donors and officials whose votes for the presidential nominee count the same as the actually elected delegates. AP claims that super-delegates who had not previously announced their intentions privately told AP reporters that they intend to vote for Clinton, bringing her over the threshold. AP is concealing the identity of the decisive super-delegates who said this.
Although the Sanders campaign rejected the validity of APs declaration on the ground that the super-delegates do not vote until the convention and he intends to try to persuade them to vote for him most major media outlets followed the projection and declared Clinton the winner.
This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary. The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identity the media organization incredibly conceals. The decisive edifice of super-delegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, its only fitting that their nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward and undemocratic sputter.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/06/07/perfect-end-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I think there's a sewer inspector job open in Nome Alaska...
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Do you know who these proud secret backers of Hillary Clinton are?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I know those weren't truly Sanders supporters but we are talking serious threats none the less. Even an arrest at a Clinton SD's office. Guy literally showed up to his office to threaten him. These Trump supporters masquerading as Sanders supporters are extremely sick and violent.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)No evidence, no case.
Just more old fashioned mud slinging.
You hoping this one will stick?
Try something new and original.
Are you hiding from the notorious Sanders gang?
JudyM
(29,233 posts)JudyM
(29,233 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)and yet I see no reference to an investigation or a police report.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)If superdelegates are hiding under their beds fearing Bernie Sanders voters must be absolutely terrified of Donald Trump and his very real violent supporters.
How are you going to fight and defeat Trump if Hillary and the Democratic Party official superdelegates are paralyzed by fear?
Must be a really weak candidate with weak shaking in their boots superdelegates.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I can't really add much to that, other than to ask "Why the fuck are progressives and liberals still meekly surrendering their political support to such a Party?"
djean111
(14,255 posts)primary in August. Sadly, I cannot vote for Tim Canova. After that, I am out, and will do my best to work with or be useful to the groups that have coalesced because of Bernie.
I was never going to vote for anyone who shilled for or voted for the TPP and/or Fast Track, so anyone who thinks I was going to support Hillary, and then Bernie came along, is delusional. ISSUES, not personalities.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)Thank you Glenn Greenwald. This whole election process has been outrageous!
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Is this saying there are additional super delegates that no one even knows about?
Why exactly do I doubt that?
What I don't doubt is that not all of the Supers have come forward to say who they'll vote for at the Convention.
Hillary still does not have enough pledged delegates for the nomination. Yes, some 500 of the supers have said they'll vote for her at the Convention, most of whom pledged their support for her before anyone else was in the race.
It really is not yet over.
msongs
(67,395 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)June 7, 2016
"We don't know which superdelegates were the ones who informed the AP about their decisions on Monday; the AP declined to tell us who they were."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/07/why-the-associated-press-called-the-race-for-hillary-clinton-when-nobody-was-looking/
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)by committing before the primaries are over. Given that Hillary has had this nomination essentially locked up since March, they realize that their votes are not necessary right now, so it makes perfect sense.