To all the people trying to shit on this: Hill is who the people voted for.

[YouDig]

Yeah, conspiracy this, conspiracy that. The people voted for Hillary. By a big margin. The first female major party nominee ever. Odds are, favorite to be the first woman president. It's not "rigged," it's not a conspiracy, it's the people who voted.

Don't look back on this day and think "I was still talking about idiotic conspiracy theories." And don't look back and think "I was really hoping superdelegates would override the democratic will of voters and deny her the nomination."

It's been a great campaign. Time to smash the orange orangutan.

[wendylaroux]

1. lol! we all know how she won.

[YouDig]

2. By getting more votes.

[Sparkly]

3. Damn democracy!!

[wendylaroux]

8. democracy!!? omg!

[Sparkly]

10. Like voting?! omg!!

[wendylaroux]

54. like a carefully coordinated primary,so democratic, omg!

[book_worm]

50. She won primaries--Bernie won caucuses and most everybody thinks

that primaries are more democratic and inclusive than caucuses.

[BlueStater]

6. Against *two* rival candidates with nowhere near her name recognition or support from the party.

That certainly helps.

[annavictorious]

53. It wasn't Hillary's fault

that after 26 years in Congress, nobody knew who Sanders was. If only he had used that two and a half decades to actually get things done...

[BlueStater]

56. Most senators and representatives aren't that well known by the majority of the public.

It doesn't quite raise your national profile like being a FLOTUS or SOS does. Hillary didn't earn either of those titles through her own work or from people voting for her, by the way.

[TheKentuckian]

59. Which Senators (much less house reps) would you estimate have higher brand recognition

than Clinton?

What is it she "got done" in her 1 1/3 terms in elected office that gave her this viability and brand strength?

Who are the members of Congress that have "got stuff done"? Compare their recognition with Hillary Clinton.

What you got is a silly bullshit meme that has no bearing on reality.

[wendylaroux]

7. bought and paid for!!! the rich will be even richer!!!!!

[libdem4life]

4. I am waiting until the FBI Lady Sings. Thanks, anyway.

If she is cleared of the morass she got herself into, I'll be back to supporting her. But if not, I will not vote for her. Period. The End.

[katmille]

11. You are so sad!

But keep convincing yourself. She won the most votes!!!! That's how you win!!!

[libdem4life]

15. Sad? Please worry not...reread my post. Has nothing to do with the Primary.

As I said...I will wait. I'm not convinced of anything. Kind of goes together.

And I don't call people names. Lacks class.

[JTFrog]

17. You don't have to call people names to lack class.

Just saying...

[libdem4life]

18. Of course not. There are a myriad of ways. That's just one.

[tandot]

5. Can you give them a break?

I am very happy that Clinton won, but I truly want her to work with Sanders and his supporters

Don't rub it in, please

[grasswire]

28. It's not the responsibility of the Bernie voters to bail HRC out.

Bernie built a YUGE coalition of independents and progressives. She can't win without them against Trump.

But it is not our responsibility to bail her out, considering the shenanigans of the election. Let her find the votes.

We voted for the candidate who will be stronger against Trump. We good.

[wendylaroux]

55. to stop this momentum by going to the right? I don't think so.

what good would that do?

[atomingai]

43. Hillary, the media, the establishment, and the press, had done the Berners and Sanders himself

so horribly. I think the Sanders supporters are going to make her reap what she sow. You don't badmouth the supporters and play nice after you get what you'd wanted. Doesn't work that way.

[senz]

9. That's what her buddy Dubya told us in 2000.

Somehow it would mean more if she hadn't required deliberate voter suppression and various "irregularities."

Last night's trickery will stay with her.

[yodermon]

12. Branding, name recognition and influence do go a long way. n/t

[John Poet]

13. Great. When she starts her wars,

YOU people go fight for her, and leave everyone else out of it.

[pressbox69]

14. They call it sour grapes.

Now is the time to peel the smelly orange.

[hamsterjill]

16. There will always be those who insist on being spoilers.

This is a historic moment. The first female nominee of a major party. It IS a big deal.

Hillary got the majority of the votes. There's no denying that. I, for one, am proud to have been a Hillary supporter for many years. She's worked hard for this and she's earned the right to be the nominee.

I can't wait until she is "Madam President"!!!!

[libdem4life]

19. If it were not so shrouded in, um, events...I would agree.

IMO, she is not a model for young women. I was a supporter early, but having a better (to me) choice and the Elephant in the Living Room and her handling of that matter...led me to change my support.

[hamsterjill]

20. That's fine. You are entitled to your opinion.

I cannot imagine how she would NOT be a role model for young women, but obviously you disagree, and are entitled to that disagreement.

She is the nominee, and I've waited a long time for a woman to be the nominee, and I'm going to enjoy this moment in time.

[libdem4life]

21. Here's my litmus test...when she's cleared and no longer under

FBI et al investigation. To me, that trumps (no pun intended) gender. My decision will be made the day before the GE as it gives plenty of time to get over with it...one way or the other.

So, we can agree to disagree. Works for me.

[hamsterjill]

22. It works for me, as well.

Thank you. I enjoy civil exchanges.

My litmus test is very simple. Innocent until proven guilty.

I wish you a great day.

[grasswire]

29. Well, Jill Stein DID garner the nomination of a major party first.

Just sayin'.

[hamsterjill]

48. Most people don't even know who Jill Stein is.

Just sayin'.

[Orsino]

23. Well, most of them.

She is not foolish enough to try to erase Sanders voters.

[Scurrilous]

24. K & R

[lindysalsagal]

25. fRump won the popular vote, too. It doesn't validate her as deserving, or honorable.

If the popular vote qualifies her as the people's best representative, the same must be said for fRump.

Her name recognition alone put her over the top, but informed voters know Bernie actually is the advocate for our country's highest impulses for integrity, honesty, and democracy. He's the far better people's representative.

[YouDig]

27. Trump is the people's representative of the GOP. That's where they are.

[grasswire]

30. that was well said, lindysalsagal

I like the second paragraph.

[mythology]

35. It seems rather arrogant to presume that voting for your preferred candidate

defines one as informed. It's a rather circular argument.

I'm not sure that name calling (ie fRump) qualifies as showing integrity, but maybe that's just from having grown up with a last name that was easy to make fun of.

But yes, by definition, a candidate receiving a majority of votes from their party means that person is the best representative of where the majority of the party is based on the available candidates to choose from.

[lindysalsagal]

57. Not when they lack critical thinking skills, information, or comprehension.

By your definition, Hitler was Germany's hero.

[drray23]

26. that is a powerfull comment.

Indeed, I can see how insane this will look in the future when reflecting back. Some people are going to ask themselves what the heck was i thinking, how out of touch could i have been.

[AzDar]

31. It's A 2-4% Deviation That The U.N. Says Makes Results Invalid....Isn't It?

?1






We ALL KNOW...

[KingFlorez]

32. The mentality of Sanders and is supporters is one of entitlement

In their minds, votes don't matter. The only thing that matters is rhetoric and ideology. Voters should be dismissed if they vote for anyone but Sanders, because anyone who doesn't vote for Sanders is supposedly corrupt. It's a confusing train of thought, but it's very real.

[atomingai]

33. I'm sorry to say, but the establishment decides their nominee, not the voters.

I'm beginning to believe that the Hillary supporters doesn't give a hoot on how she wins, as long as she wins. Integrity or fairness be damned.

[YouDig]

34. Hillary got 3 million more votes. Did you know that?

[atomingai]

36. I heard, but unfortunately, that's a lie.

I understand your loyalty, but let's be real. The Democratic turnout this year is.....pathetic. The lowest in years. To make things worse, your nominee was pushing away a lot of Sanders supporters and disrespecting them to boot. No candidate should push away potential votes.

[YouDig]

38. #berniemath

[atomingai]

39. I can careless about your hashtag. A lie is a lie period.

[YouDig]

40. And I couldn't care less about your #berniemath.

[atomingai]

41. I doesn't take a math major to see the lie in this. A little research would due just find.

Sorry dig, but I don't nor the time nor patience to play with you or any blind Hillary supporter. I understand that she won, but I won't let you gloat on my expense. I heard how you Hillary supporters abuse your privileges. I believe you're just another defect in Democracy. Consider yourself silenced. So long!!!

[YouDig]

42. 3 million plus vote margin. No math major needed. No #berniemath. Hill wins by a mile.

[mythology]

37. Obviously all of those votes were from the establishment*

Establishment being defined as those who didn't vote for Sanders.

[lindysalsagal]

58. The dem establishment drove this, but the GOP lost control.

Totally the opposite of past precsedent.

[baldguy]

44. K&R

[Chan790]

45. You seem to not grasp a fundimental issue.

We don’t care if she won the nomination fairly or unfairly. She doesn’t need to convince us that she won the nomination fairly…we just don’t care.

She’s an unacceptable candidate unworthy of our support and unlikely to receive it. I don't need conspiracy theories...I just need sane people who are now empowered to deny her the nomination, to deny her the nomination as being in the best interests of the nation and the party. I, in turn, need to start preparing for 2020 and the campaign to either primary Clinton out of office or defeat Trump. (Frankly, I don't actually care which...they're equally-shitty choices. Dolores Umbridge vs. Voldemort.)

[YouDig]

47. There are no sane people who can't tell that Hillary is much better than Trump.

[Chan790]

49. I prefer to think of it...

as neither passes the bar into acceptable or decent territory.

Much like a 59 and a 31 are both Fs. Both Clinton and Trump are unacceptable...below the threshold where it makes a difference which is better.

[YouDig]

51. Your bar is totally arbitrary. It makes a huge difference that Clinton is better than Trump.

Go down the issues if you want, see for yourself. On almost all, there's a huge difference. Trump thinks global warming is a hoax, Clinton wants to tackle it aggressively. Trump things wages are too high, Clinton thinks too low. And so on. And then there's the fact that Trump is totally racist. And also he's crazy.

The country will be much better off with Hillary than with Trump.

[NCTraveler]

46. Fuck Trump. Nt

[TSIAS]

60. Your point?

People get elected all the time who are odious and have no place in public office. Just because the people vote for them doesn't mean that they are the best candidates (see Reagan and Bush).