2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow does Secret Service protection work? When does Sanders lose it?
I know he had to request protection initially, but now that there is a presumptive nominee, is he still going to be using tax payer dollars to continue a campaign that has no chance of winning?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)When will the Hillaryans stop kvetching over Bernie? You've got a candidate neck deep in alliance with Wall Street and alleged corruption and money laundering with the Clinton Foundation, and yet you want to begrudge a man his safety??
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)perks like getting through traffic quickly...things might look different for him.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)Seriously he isn't a bush or clinton, so he's done without those perks most of his life.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)it's OK for him to fly his entire family to Rome and stay in 5-star hotels using campaign dollars? It's OK for him to accept 24-hour bodyguard protection on the taxpayers' dime when it's been established he won't be President?
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)I know, I know, he hasn't earned it like clinton has. It's her turn!
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Oh that encapsulated little bubble......
That will work well in a GE.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)This is how the primary works. The winner is determined by the people who actually vote. Baseless assumptions that those who didn't vote want the 2nd place candidate aren't going to change the outcome.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)The superdelegates decided that before any votes were cast to boost her chances at being nominated. To discourage competition. In short, to discourage democracy.
So, to get back to the post I was responding to, do you think that Senator Sanders ran just for the perks and Secret Service protection detail? Do you think that detail should be ended before the primary?
unc70
(6,110 posts)Don't embarrass our school with this petty stuff. The Secret Service will determine when it's time to end protective services. Remember that Sanders was reluctant to begin SS protection, only began it after incidents like his state headquarters being shot up.
ancianita
(36,013 posts)In a country as saturated with guns and wingnuts as this one, prudence in protecting all candidates is the adult standard. Believe that.
Obama and DHL won't niggle about his having Secret Service protection and neither should you.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)people. Haven't you ever noticed that going for high principles yields better results than low?
Or is that just something that Sanders people believe?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Typical of the BSers.
Skink
(10,122 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)But the net effect of skipping registration in a closed primary would be limits on their option to vote, so maybe. Don't register as a Democrat in a closed primary state, then yes, you won't be able to vote for them. But you'd still have the right to vote for any other party conducting an open election at the same time. Greens, Working Families Party, etc.
But again, not being able to vote in a closed primary is merely a consequence of their decision to skip the registration process, which is available to any citizen (without felony, depending on location).
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)My point is you made it overly personal while you know jack shit about the poster.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Bye, Jon.
ALBliberal
(2,334 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)he has no chance of being the nominee. I don't care if it is petty or not, just wondering if anyone knows the rules, or guidelines from other campaigns.
ALBliberal
(2,334 posts)Weeks after Trump.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Do you want him shot or something? What a crummy thread. Time to put you on ignore.
Buh bye!
Plonk
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)in harming him. It just seems that we shouldn't waste very expensive protection on someone who will never be president and who doesn't need protection. Heck, his supporters are more violent than any one else's.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And you're actually hurting your candidate by doing this.
HRC can't beat Trump unless she gets massive support from Sanders supporters. How do you expect her to get that support if you act like Bernie is unworthy of respect and his campaign was a joke?
It's not as if you have any reason to resent Bernie for running or his supporters for working for him. Nothing would be better if he had stayed out.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)It all depends upon how big a jerk he really is.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)Sometimes it's very hard to get a straight answer around here!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Of course, she has it for life.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)you could get a straight answer. You got lots of answers - you just didn't like any of them until someone called Bernie a name. So I guess you got the result you wanted.
Bully.
peace13
(11,076 posts)I hope you don't get a visit from the Secret Service. You might want to straighten the place up a bit and hide the computer. My best to you. I'm not wishing this, just concerned for you.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Your candidate is going to be nominated. Can't you just be happy and leave it at that?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Per Skinner.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)He clearly has been enjoying the finer aspects of his fame. I could see him staying in longer just for this perk.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Why are you STILL looking for stuff to snark at him about?
He sought the presidency to fight for the causes he cares about. Are you really incapable of believing a person could do that?
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Hence his thinking he's entitled to the nomination because "revolution!" regardless of what the voters say.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)That pathetic joke of a frivolous lawsuit changes nothing.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Bernie didn't run for the attention or the perks. It's been about the issues. Just the issues.
Sad that you can't accept that, even now.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)This is just petty and mean spirited. We get it; you hate Bernie! But, for God's sake: he is worthy of secret service protection!
kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)Thanks for another crap post.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)People within both political parties rotate in and out of Secret Service protection depending on if the they find what they deem a credible threat.
There are exceptions, such as denying service, or if they are protected by a different agency; such as the SoS who is protected by the Bureau of Diplomatic Security.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Nahh, not really.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Vinca
(50,250 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)JSup
(740 posts)...but the question could be construed as threatening, "What time does she leave and when do her bodyguards go home?"
Or more creepy but less threatening "When does she turn 18?"
Only half serious (quarter?) here.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)However, he could probably ask that it be discontinued if he decides to concede and suspend his campaign. I can't think of any reason why he should not continue to be protected, though.
Still, I doubt his risk of being attacked is very low from this point on.
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)As long as they feel that there is a credible threat to his safety, he will be protected