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eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:06 AM Jun 2016

How does Secret Service protection work? When does Sanders lose it?

I know he had to request protection initially, but now that there is a presumptive nominee, is he still going to be using tax payer dollars to continue a campaign that has no chance of winning?

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How does Secret Service protection work? When does Sanders lose it? (Original Post) eastwestdem Jun 2016 OP
nickel and dime, nickel and dime grasswire Jun 2016 #1
I'm more interested because when the lights and cameras start going away, and he loses eastwestdem Jun 2016 #3
Yeah, because it's all about the perks for Sanders11!eleven. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #15
So because "he's done without".... tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #21
yawn That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #22
Yes she HAS earned it. By the voters choosing her as the nominee. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #31
What voters? A tiny Dem bubble? pinebox Jun 2016 #43
This is your first election I take it? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #48
It is her turn isn't it? That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #44
Let it go unc70 Jun 2016 #23
Yeah, it's OK. ALL US candidates have. Your republican "deserve" argument is toxic. ancianita Jun 2016 #56
No kidding. The most small-minded, low principled believers I have ever encountered. Check it out highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #6
They aren't going to stop Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #26
Nice deflection rock Jun 2016 #46
We taxpayers paid for all the closed primaries. Skink Jun 2016 #2
You also paid for the registration process that you chose to skip. #consequences nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #24
Are you alleging that Skink did not vote? What a curious thing to say. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #51
I said "registration," not "vote." I'm not sure how to make it more clear, sorry. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #52
If you do not register you cannot vote. The effect is the same. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #53
Hmm, so it's like that. Well, one more useless opinion on my Ignore pile doesn't bother me. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #55
Petty. ALBliberal Jun 2016 #4
At some point though, you would expect the campaign to have to pay for security, if eastwestdem Jun 2016 #5
I doubt he will keep it any longer than the govt offers. As I recall he was late in getting it. ALBliberal Jun 2016 #47
He is legally still in the race passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #7
Really? He will be a total afterthought in a couple of weeks. No one would even be interested eastwestdem Jun 2016 #9
You're being meanspirited here for no reason. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #19
I believe it's when he concedes or after the one and only ballot in Philly. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #8
Thank you, that's all I wanted to know. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #10
In 2008, Hillary never lost SS protection. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #11
Perhaps if you didn't ask crooked questions... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #12
Strange post. peace13 Jun 2016 #30
You have no reason to still be dissing the guy. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #18
I have until the 16th MohRokTah Jun 2016 #45
Something like this might actually make a difference for him. anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #13
This isn't about the perks. Bernie is one of the most modestly living people in politics. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
He seems pretty egotistical to me. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #32
How are you sure it's regardless of what the voters say. Apparently, not everyone is. merrily Jun 2016 #38
Couldn't be more sure. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #40
after the convention larkrake Jun 2016 #14
When secret service determines. merrily Jun 2016 #39
Why? Want to try to pick him off or something? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #16
That's what I was wondering Scootaloo Jun 2016 #20
Sore Winner! Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #25
Wow... look at all those recs! kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #27
Ugly. Maybe another Hillary supporter will pm me about P.U. merrily Jun 2016 #35
the Secret Service determines when and if protection is no longer required. Exilednight Jun 2016 #28
Go back in your fucking hole with this crap. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #29
Are you eager to see him lose protection after credible death threats? merrily Jun 2016 #33
He should retain protection until after the convention. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #34
Man I sure am going to miss shit posts like this. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #36
Cruciferous vegetables, when heated, can give off a very unpleasant odor. merrily Jun 2016 #41
He's a Senator. If there are threats to his safety he can have protection forever if necessary. Vinca Jun 2016 #37
That's an interesting logistical question, but I'm not really all that concerned about it. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #42
I didn't take it this way... JSup Jun 2016 #49
He'll probably get continued protection until after the Convention. MineralMan Jun 2016 #50
The SS determines when it stops Txbluedog Jun 2016 #54

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. nickel and dime, nickel and dime
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:08 AM
Jun 2016

When will the Hillaryans stop kvetching over Bernie? You've got a candidate neck deep in alliance with Wall Street and alleged corruption and money laundering with the Clinton Foundation, and yet you want to begrudge a man his safety??

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
3. I'm more interested because when the lights and cameras start going away, and he loses
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:11 AM
Jun 2016

perks like getting through traffic quickly...things might look different for him.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
15. Yeah, because it's all about the perks for Sanders11!eleven.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:17 AM
Jun 2016

Seriously he isn't a bush or clinton, so he's done without those perks most of his life.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
21. So because "he's done without"....
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:41 AM
Jun 2016

it's OK for him to fly his entire family to Rome and stay in 5-star hotels using campaign dollars? It's OK for him to accept 24-hour bodyguard protection on the taxpayers' dime when it's been established he won't be President?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
43. What voters? A tiny Dem bubble?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:27 AM
Jun 2016

Oh that encapsulated little bubble......
That will work well in a GE.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
48. This is your first election I take it?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jun 2016

This is how the primary works. The winner is determined by the people who actually vote. Baseless assumptions that those who didn't vote want the 2nd place candidate aren't going to change the outcome.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
44. It is her turn isn't it?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jun 2016

The superdelegates decided that before any votes were cast to boost her chances at being nominated. To discourage competition. In short, to discourage democracy.

So, to get back to the post I was responding to, do you think that Senator Sanders ran just for the perks and Secret Service protection detail? Do you think that detail should be ended before the primary?

unc70

(6,110 posts)
23. Let it go
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:34 AM
Jun 2016

Don't embarrass our school with this petty stuff. The Secret Service will determine when it's time to end protective services. Remember that Sanders was reluctant to begin SS protection, only began it after incidents like his state headquarters being shot up.

ancianita

(36,013 posts)
56. Yeah, it's OK. ALL US candidates have. Your republican "deserve" argument is toxic.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jun 2016

In a country as saturated with guns and wingnuts as this one, prudence in protecting all candidates is the adult standard. Believe that.

Obama and DHL won't niggle about his having Secret Service protection and neither should you.



 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
6. No kidding. The most small-minded, low principled believers I have ever encountered. Check it out
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:14 AM
Jun 2016

people. Haven't you ever noticed that going for high principles yields better results than low?

Or is that just something that Sanders people believe?

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
52. I said "registration," not "vote." I'm not sure how to make it more clear, sorry.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jun 2016

But the net effect of skipping registration in a closed primary would be limits on their option to vote, so maybe. Don't register as a Democrat in a closed primary state, then yes, you won't be able to vote for them. But you'd still have the right to vote for any other party conducting an open election at the same time. Greens, Working Families Party, etc.

But again, not being able to vote in a closed primary is merely a consequence of their decision to skip the registration process, which is available to any citizen (without felony, depending on location).

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
53. If you do not register you cannot vote. The effect is the same.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jun 2016

My point is you made it overly personal while you know jack shit about the poster.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
55. Hmm, so it's like that. Well, one more useless opinion on my Ignore pile doesn't bother me.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jun 2016

Bye, Jon.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
5. At some point though, you would expect the campaign to have to pay for security, if
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:13 AM
Jun 2016

he has no chance of being the nominee. I don't care if it is petty or not, just wondering if anyone knows the rules, or guidelines from other campaigns.

ALBliberal

(2,334 posts)
47. I doubt he will keep it any longer than the govt offers. As I recall he was late in getting it.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jun 2016

Weeks after Trump.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
7. He is legally still in the race
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:15 AM
Jun 2016

Do you want him shot or something? What a crummy thread. Time to put you on ignore.

Buh bye!

Plonk

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
9. Really? He will be a total afterthought in a couple of weeks. No one would even be interested
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:18 AM
Jun 2016

in harming him. It just seems that we shouldn't waste very expensive protection on someone who will never be president and who doesn't need protection. Heck, his supporters are more violent than any one else's.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
19. You're being meanspirited here for no reason.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:27 AM
Jun 2016

And you're actually hurting your candidate by doing this.

HRC can't beat Trump unless she gets massive support from Sanders supporters. How do you expect her to get that support if you act like Bernie is unworthy of respect and his campaign was a joke?

It's not as if you have any reason to resent Bernie for running or his supporters for working for him. Nothing would be better if he had stayed out.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. I believe it's when he concedes or after the one and only ballot in Philly.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:15 AM
Jun 2016

It all depends upon how big a jerk he really is.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
10. Thank you, that's all I wanted to know.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:19 AM
Jun 2016

Sometimes it's very hard to get a straight answer around here!

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
12. Perhaps if you didn't ask crooked questions...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:22 AM
Jun 2016

you could get a straight answer. You got lots of answers - you just didn't like any of them until someone called Bernie a name. So I guess you got the result you wanted.

Bully.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
30. Strange post.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:40 AM
Jun 2016

I hope you don't get a visit from the Secret Service. You might want to straighten the place up a bit and hide the computer. My best to you. I'm not wishing this, just concerned for you.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
18. You have no reason to still be dissing the guy.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:24 AM
Jun 2016

Your candidate is going to be nominated. Can't you just be happy and leave it at that?

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
13. Something like this might actually make a difference for him.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:46 AM
Jun 2016

He clearly has been enjoying the finer aspects of his fame. I could see him staying in longer just for this perk.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
17. This isn't about the perks. Bernie is one of the most modestly living people in politics.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:23 AM
Jun 2016

Why are you STILL looking for stuff to snark at him about?

He sought the presidency to fight for the causes he cares about. Are you really incapable of believing a person could do that?

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
32. He seems pretty egotistical to me.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:43 AM
Jun 2016

Hence his thinking he's entitled to the nomination because "revolution!" regardless of what the voters say.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. Why? Want to try to pick him off or something?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:21 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie didn't run for the attention or the perks. It's been about the issues. Just the issues.

Sad that you can't accept that, even now.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
25. Sore Winner!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:08 AM
Jun 2016

This is just petty and mean spirited. We get it; you hate Bernie! But, for God's sake: he is worthy of secret service protection!

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
28. the Secret Service determines when and if protection is no longer required.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:22 AM
Jun 2016

People within both political parties rotate in and out of Secret Service protection depending on if the they find what they deem a credible threat.

There are exceptions, such as denying service, or if they are protected by a different agency; such as the SoS who is protected by the Bureau of Diplomatic Security.

JSup

(740 posts)
49. I didn't take it this way...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jun 2016

...but the question could be construed as threatening, "What time does she leave and when do her bodyguards go home?"

Or more creepy but less threatening "When does she turn 18?"

Only half serious (quarter?) here.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
50. He'll probably get continued protection until after the Convention.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jun 2016

However, he could probably ask that it be discontinued if he decides to concede and suspend his campaign. I can't think of any reason why he should not continue to be protected, though.

Still, I doubt his risk of being attacked is very low from this point on.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
54. The SS determines when it stops
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jun 2016

As long as they feel that there is a credible threat to his safety, he will be protected

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