2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs Warren running to be VP or is she already the VP candidate?
Is she running for the job, or does she already have it and it hasn't been announced yet.
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She's auditioning | |
4 (27%) |
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She's got the job | |
2 (13%) |
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None of the above | |
8 (53%) |
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Other | |
1 (7%) |
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Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Oil and water: it won't work!
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Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,337 posts)She genuinely, enthusiastically supports Hillary. So, other.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Which she can utilize beautifully.
andym
(5,443 posts)William McKinley was a candidate well approved of by the GOP establishment and by the corporate (trusts) leaders of the day. They appointed Teddy Roosevelt a firebrand anti-corporate excess reformist as VP. By chance Teddy became the first progressive President.
So few people know this.
I am impressed. And man, Teddy used a shovel as a broom. He did not just sweep trusts out, he kicked their asses.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Senate Majority Leader, now...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Or else Gavin Newsom.
okasha
(11,573 posts)we have clear majorities there. I really like Gavin Newsom, but CA is dependably blue. I want someone who can inspire the base and bring us an uncertain state with a large number of electoral votes.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Wyden and Merkley make sense because Kate Brown is about as progressive a Governor as there is, and she will pick the replacement.
My opinion on motivating the base is, Hillary should go further on Cannabis legalization. That is supported by a majority of Americans, plays well west of the Rockies, will help in Colorado which is a swing state, and will get Millennials.
but maybe that's not what you meant. So who do you have in mind?
okasha
(11,573 posts)but it's well down my priority list. I believe it's well down most people's lists, behind the environment (and yes, legal pot would be a good thing for the environment), women's rights and equal compensation, sensible gun control, etc.
I presently favor Julián Castro. Texas is now a minority-majority state, and the Republicans have no path to victory without it.
VP's are either mentors or apprentices. Hillary doesn't need a mentor.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Because I've noticed that the further East one goes, the less people seem to understand that it is an actual serious issue out here.
4 states have passed recreational legalization and California, with 34 million people, is likely to be next. It may not be a front burner in midtown manhattan, but the lt. governor of CA cared enough to headline the rollout of the AUMA.
Castro sounds to me like a blank slate with a blandly middle of the road or slightly conservative track record, if any. He might make sense, but courting Latinos as a demographic is probably less pressing in terms of urgency since Trump is the nominee.
Geographic considerations of the running mate, to my mind, doesn't really factor in that much in terms of carrying states, certainly not as much as they did in 1960. It would be wonderful if we turned Texas blue, but Castro or no I highly doubt that is happening.
I've also noticed that the buzz around the guy subsided significantly in the past month or so. Some of that may be, like i mentioned, different demographic calculations with a definite Trump run, or maybe there are some other factors.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Minority voters (of whom I am one,) and women (also one of those) favor Hillary overwhelmingly. But an Hispanic VP would have the potential to push the state over the line to blue, and carry some down-ticket candidates as well.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)We're already pulling in something like 5X the expected tax revenue from legalization, and it is still in process of being rolled out. So i can tell you it absolutely is a top tier consideration for a lot of us.
If Castro could really bring in TX, I would be surprised, but pleasantly so. Still like Ive said, the buzz around the guy has abated significantly in recent weeks. My personal hunch is that Hillary will go with someone bland and safe like Kaine. But, we shall see.
okasha
(11,573 posts)Historically, hemp is one of the most useful plants there is. It would have a far better chance here in Texas with more Dems in the statehouse.
On strategic grounds, I favor a minority man, young enough to be a strong candidate in 8 years, old enough to have governmental and executive experience. Castro is pretty much following the path laid out by Henry Cisneros, without the scandal.
The buzz about the VP slot in general has died down in the concentration on these last few, crucial primaries. It's full on tonight, though.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)monmouth4
(9,694 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I'm not good at the prediction game.