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AzDar

(14,023 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:02 AM Jun 2016

Senior Japanese Government Official Predicts Clinton Will Change Stance On TPP If Elected...

I Guess Technically She Would Be Changing It "BACK"? Hard To Keep Track Of The Lies...

http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0003001897



Some Japanese government officials have expressed positive expectations regarding Hillary Clinton, who is highly likely to be named the Democratic Party’s nominee in the U.S. presidential election.

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Regarding trade, Clinton had promoted the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement while secretary of state, but she has changed her stance to opposition to the TPP. She seems to be paying consideration to labor unions, which are support bases for the Democratic Party.

A senior Japanese government official predicted that Clinton “will change her stance again to supporting the TPP if she becomes president.” But it is a source of concern for Japan.




Read It And Weep @ Link

http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0003001897
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Senior Japanese Government Official Predicts Clinton Will Change Stance On TPP If Elected... (Original Post) AzDar Jun 2016 OP
I'll take Madam President's word against any foreigner, any day. oasis Jun 2016 #1
Not a good look for a functioning democracy... AzDar Jun 2016 #2
Winners are allowed their opportunity to deliver the goods in a oasis Jun 2016 #6
she may add a harmless tweek, but she will pass it swhisper1 Jun 2016 #10
Sounds like something Trump would say kathysart_decoration Jun 2016 #12
But, but, ¡exceptionalism! Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #13
I think Obama will take TPP and/or KXL off her plate by approving them during his lame duck session. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #42
The 16th is closer with every post ... can't get here soon enough n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #3
She'll STILL be a corrupt liar...Does she change into a pumpkin, or something? AzDar Jun 2016 #4
Something I would expect to hear on a right wingnut website SFnomad Jun 2016 #5
Stagecoach Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #16
I think she will support it. And if so, her supporters will be cheering her Broward Jun 2016 #33
I guess we'll see who knows her better. ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #7
That is exactly what will happen Ash_F Jun 2016 #15
I thought that was what the TPA was all about. That it cannot jwirr Jun 2016 #19
Has that passed? ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #20
Yes, after a long hard fight it passed. jwirr Jun 2016 #38
READ MY LIPS! Kokonoe Jun 2016 #8
I hope you're right. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #17
Yup, she will Arazi Jun 2016 #9
How could anyone doubt it? senz Jun 2016 #11
Not even a question Ash_F Jun 2016 #14
She will change if the TPP changes MaggieD Jun 2016 #18
Which some of our fellow DU'ers would know if they did their homework Lucinda Jun 2016 #21
It's amazing to me MaggieD Jun 2016 #22
Me too! Lucinda Jun 2016 #23
Yea, I always figure.... MaggieD Jun 2016 #24
I don't understand how people can vote without doing their homework. Lucinda Jun 2016 #25
She has never been specific about what she would need to change to support it again. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #27
Indeed she has MaggieD Jun 2016 #31
So the only thing mentioned there is a 'concern' about some of the ISDS language. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #34
Nope - watch it again MaggieD Jun 2016 #35
Yeah I watched it again. Doesn't say what you claim. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #37
Here is a transcript MaggieD Jun 2016 #41
Doesn't say that and there is much better fiction to read. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #40
Will it be an issue or will the TPP have been passed already before inauguration day. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #26
Only to be expected. She won't go against her $pon$or$. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #28
I think the TPP is the primary reason Hillary has been shoved down our throats Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #29
Don't forget muscular military responses, dragnet surveillance, and government secrecy TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #30
like her planned NYPD Militarization: amborin Jun 2016 #32
Who the fuck cares what som random anonymous "senior Japanese government official" says? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #36
Doesn't take a genius or psychic to know that. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #39
On Bill & NAFTA... Octafish Jun 2016 #43
Big deal, who DOESN'T expect that? Nostradamus he isn't. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #44

oasis

(49,365 posts)
6. Winners are allowed their opportunity to deliver the goods in a
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jun 2016

"functioning democracy". Losers can do all the second guessing their little hearts desire, and if their predictions should prove to be correct, they are free to say "I told you so".

Hillary will not put her second term in jeopardy by giving the green light to the TPP in its present form.

 
12. Sounds like something Trump would say
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:00 AM
Jun 2016

Seriously, I am in this country because of "foreigners," and I suspect, so are you. You sound just like Donald Trump and his tirades against Mexicans being criminals. For you, foreigners are liars and you know this even if you don't know them because some woman who is known to have lied about many things is now running for president. You have lost your ability to think, but at the very least, you should think before you write. Your post is offensive Shame on you.

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
42. I think Obama will take TPP and/or KXL off her plate by approving them during his lame duck session.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jun 2016
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
5. Something I would expect to hear on a right wingnut website
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:23 AM
Jun 2016

Then again, the BS cheerleaders around here sound an awful lot like those right wingnuts ... sometimes it's difficult to tell them apart.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
33. I think she will support it. And if so, her supporters will be cheering her
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jun 2016

every step of the way.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
7. I guess we'll see who knows her better.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jun 2016

Her American supporters or Japanese officials? Time will tell. Maybe she'll support it after a few minor changes, and then both groups can claim victory.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. I thought that was what the TPA was all about. That it cannot
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jun 2016

be change at all in the next 6 years. It can only be brought up for a vote.

Kokonoe

(2,485 posts)
8. READ MY LIPS!
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jun 2016

Some Japanese government officials expressing expectations regarding Hillary Clinton will change her stance again to supporting the TPP if she becomes president are completely False.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
18. She will change if the TPP changes
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016

... To include the things she said needed to meet her criteria. Worker rights and ability to unionize / organize, currency manipulation, etc.

She has said this over 2 years now, including in her last book.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
21. Which some of our fellow DU'ers would know if they did their homework
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jun 2016

She is very consistent. Unfortunately, so are many posters who don't bother to research.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
22. It's amazing to me
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jun 2016

That someone could spend so much time on a political forum, yet still appear to be so completely uninformed. Shocks me sometimes.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
23. Me too!
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jun 2016

I've been around here for over a decade now, and it still surprises me...especially when long time DU'ers haven't bothered to vet all of our candidates. I assume we are all political junkies...which is probably my first error!

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
24. Yea, I always figure....
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jun 2016

If you have enough time to post you have enough time to inform yourself. But apparently that is too much work for some folks.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
25. I don't understand how people can vote without doing their homework.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jun 2016

This time around, even knowing I was going to support Hillary up front, I still did my research on Bernie and OMalley. Good ideas come from everywhere, and had one of them prevailed, I wouldn't have to wonder what their policies as POTUS would be.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
27. She has never been specific about what she would need to change to support it again.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jun 2016

That is concerning, as any minor concession could be used as justification for a change of public position.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
34. So the only thing mentioned there is a 'concern' about some of the ISDS language.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jun 2016

She doesn't say what the end goal should be there, whether we need to nix all of that or whether she would support a TPP with only minor concessions.

Furthermore, that is before she came out against the TPP, so I can't see how the video can possibly address the topic at hand.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
35. Nope - watch it again
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:31 PM
Jun 2016

She talks about workers being allowed to unionize. Also, you obviously have not read her book.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
41. Here is a transcript
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

What do you think she means by workers rights? If you'd been paying attention to her statements on this over the years you would know she wants workers rights to unionize in the agreement.

Instead of informing yourself you criticize. Sad.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/hillary-clinton-ralston-live-video-and-transcript

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
30. Don't forget muscular military responses, dragnet surveillance, and government secrecy
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jun 2016

amongst other big set pieces.

The reasons are many.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
36. Who the fuck cares what som random anonymous "senior Japanese government official" says?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

That has no basis in reality.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
43. On Bill & NAFTA...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

Henry Kissinger, Hillary Clinton’s Tutor in War and Peace

(During debate), Clinton once again praised a man with a lot of blood on his hands.


By Greg Grandin
The Nation, Feb. 5, 2016

EXCERPT...

 As first lady, Hillary Clinton spent the early months of her husband’s administration drafting healthcare-reform legislation, only to see it put on the back burner by the North American Free Trade Agreement. Kissinger, in his role as a global consultant, had played a critical role in bringing the various parties who would write that trade treaty together during the previous George H.W. Bush administration. Kissinger continued his NAFTA advocacy with Bill Clinton. As Jeff Faux writes in his excellent The Global Class War, Kissinger was “the perfect tutor” for Clinton, who was “trying to convince Republicans and their business allies that they could count on him to champion Reagan’s vision.”

By September 1993, Hillary’s healthcare bill was ready to be presented to the public and to Congress. But so was NAFTA. All of Kissinger’s allies in the White House, including Mack McLarty, who would soon join Kissinger Associates, pushed Clinton to prioritize NAFTA over healthcare. Clinton did. It was Kissinger who came up with the idea of having past presidents stand behind Clinton as he signed the treaty. Reagan was sick and Nixon still non grata, but “flanked by former presidents Bush, Carter and Ford at a White House ceremony, Mr. Clinton delivers an impassioned speech,” The Wall Street Journal reported. No such presidential backdrop was assembled to help support Hillary Clinton’s healthcare proposal. By August 1994, healthcare was dead.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/article/henry-kissinger-hillary-clintons-tutor-in-war-and-peace/
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