How is Bernie's super-delegate outreach going?

[Renew Deal]

Who has he won over in the last week? Who has he lost?

[Cali_Democrat]

1. After Bernie's massive loss in DC, they will flip to Bernie in droves

[workinclasszero]

52. Uh huh

[BobbyDrake]

2. He's gaining about 1 new SD every two days, so just 1,000 more days and he wins!!!

[awake]

3. How is bring the party together going?

[Cali_Democrat]

5. The party can't come together until Bernie puts his massive ego aside and concedes defeat.

Pretty simple actually.

[awake]

12. I sugest you step back and think about how your post are received by Bernie supporters.

Hillary will need all hands on deck and trashing Bernie at this point does her cause no good. Being a sore winner is no way to help our party get behind their nominee. Unless you are working for the GOP maybe you could chill a bit.

[Renew Deal]

16. How is it trashing to ask how Bernie's victory plan is proceeding?

[awake]

21. I am sure you must be aware of how your post is received by Bernie supporters

Just ask your self what is the reason for raising your question. Is it to brings use together or to gloat?

[Renew Deal]

23. Who is gloating?

We are told repeatedly on DU that we don't know how the super-delegates will vote including multiple times in this thread. So how's it going?

[highprincipleswork]

54. It's going OK. Some have switched.

[liberalnarb]

40. There is one more primary left. DC.

I know it barely matters but let the last votes be counted.

[Jennylynn]

46. Oh seriously?

There's supposed to be COUNTING after voting?? Huh.

[srobert]

70. Yes, AFTER

Last edited Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes, there's supposed to be counting AFTER voting.

[Renew Deal]

6. Has Bernie dropped out?

[awake]

17. As has been pointed out Hillary has won the majority of pledged delegates at this point.

The question at hand is how to insure that the important issues that Bernie has been pushing for 40 years now becomes the hart of our party.

[Renew Deal]

19. I don't think everyone is on the same page

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2184218

Including Bernie who will not say he will do everything he can to elect Hillary. He says he will do everything he can to defeat Trump, but this is a lie. The first thing he could do is drop out and acknowledge Hillary won. He hasn't done that yet.

[awake]

27. Clearly not every one is on the same page

So instead of poking at Bernie supporters why not extend a open hand? What do you want the out come to be? What can you do to help us all get on the same page?

[Renew Deal]

29. It's on Bernie to do the right things.

He's the one causing this.

[awake]

32. I have news for you Bernie has already won

His issues are now the issues of this party, the future belongs to his supporters, Bernie has won the harts of the voters under 45 years old. Bernie has keep the flame alive for over 40 years and is passing the torch to the next generation to carry on. The political revolution is far from over it has only just started. It seem that Hillary will most likely be our nominee but she will be running on Bernie's platform and his movement shall continue to grow electing people over the next 4 years whom will work for all Americans not just the 1%

[Armstead]

41. People like you don't make that easier

Magnify your attitude to the party establishment as a whole and if I were Bernie I'd say "FU and the donkey you rode in on."

I hope he's a bigger person than me but we'll see. And I wouldn't blame him if he said that.

[virtualobserver]

4. is this post part of Hillary's Bernie supporter outreach?

[Renew Deal]

7. What is Bernie's plan to support the nominee?

[Cali_Democrat]

8. I thought the OP posed a very simple and straightforward question

Bernie says he wants to go to the convention. Victory at the convention depends on how many superdelegates he can flip.

So....how's he doing on that front?

[SFnomad]

13. When those supporters continue to post ...

Cherry picked polls to show Secretary Clinton is losing
Negative OP after negative OP on the email non-scandal, TPP, war hawks, etc.

Why bother with outreach?

[JonLeibowitz]

24. But she *is* a war hawk and does support the TPP !?

Is the truth no longer welcome?

A strong case can be made she also supports the TPP.

[SFnomad]

42. No, Secretary Clinton is NOT a war hawk and she no longer supports the TPP

Cheney and Dumbya are war hawks.

Your post is proof ... why bother with outreach?

I noticed you didn't even try to defend the cherry picked polls.

[JonLeibowitz]

47. Polls don't interest me, policies do. And she IS a war hawk.

(She says she supports the TPP, but the business community widely expects her to return to her former support)

[SFnomad]

49. And there you have it ... why even bother with outreach? n/t

[JonLeibowitz]

51. Forget outreach, I am interested in clear changes in stances on positions.

I don't want to feel warm and fuzzy inside, I want to know I am casting a vote for justice and good.

[SFnomad]

57. Outreach is the subject of the OP and what I originally was replying to ...

And you're proof to what I said ... why bother?

[JonLeibowitz]

60. I meant that policy changes are more important than 'reaching out'

If your camp has no intention of doing that, I'll continue to support Bernie and his agenda.

[SFnomad]

67. Again, I'm staying on topic with the OP ... and you're proving what I stated ... thanks n/t

[JonLeibowitz]

68. I am not proving that. Only if Hillary is resistant to pressure from the left am I proving anything.

And really, that is Clinton's action that determines my vote.

[SFnomad]

69. You've proven my point again and again ... thanks ... buh bye n/t

[zonkers]

62. The language used by the OP is chillingly Palin-esque (How's that hopey-changey stuff working out)

[HumanityExperiment]

9. good thing anti-Bernie posts like this...

end shortly, few more days...

[Renew Deal]

11. This is not anti-Bernie

I'm giving Sanders supporters who say he still has a chance tell us how it's going.

And there is a misconception that posts critical of Bernie end in a couple days. They don't. Reasonable criticism is always allowed and there's plenty to criticize Bernie over.

[HumanityExperiment]

22. ...corrected...

'there is a misconception that posts critical of HRC end in a couple days. They don't. Reasonable criticism is always allowed and there's plenty to criticize HRC over'

See how that works?

[Renew Deal]

25. Yes

That IS how it works.

[HumanityExperiment]

26. your original OP isn't how that works...

which is why OP like yours will not stand in a few days..., that's how that works

[Renew Deal]

28. We'll see

I've been here long enough to know how it works.

[HumanityExperiment]

30. no need to 'see', your intent is clear

and I'm sure smarter folks than you or I can point that out in better detail

[imagine2015]

10. Do you really expect an answer? No one knows how the super delegates will vote.

I don't count any super delegates who indicate a preference for Bernie or Clinton.

Why?

Because they are not pledged nor legally bound to any candidate before the convention.

And super delegates can vote for anyone at the convention no matter whom they might have indicated a preference for prior to the convention.

You'll just have to wait like the rest of us for the actual convention vote to determine who the super delegates favor on July 25th.

[Renew Deal]

14. No one?

No one knows how the people that declare how they will vote will vote? It is a complete mystery?

Your argument is like saying there's no way to know if someone will have a baby just because they are 9 months pregnant. I mean, just because someone is 9 months pregnant, there is no way to know if a baby will be born, so no preperation is needed.

[Tarc]

37. We already know how hte superdelegates will vote

You are always welcome to join us over here.

[Orsino]

15. Neener-neeners do not become us. n/t

[NCTraveler]

18. Sanders supporters still thinking he will win have no thoughts about SD's.

Many are organized and we would see lists of SD's everyday along with chances to flip individuals on that list. A target list if you will.

At this point they are just waiting for indictment which they know will be handed down shortly.

We are truly only talking about five or so posters. The numbers are that low.

I truly think those numbers are so low that we can consider them an insignificant aspect and respect the transition the majority are currently going through.

[Nye Bevan]

20. Bernie..... Bernie..... that name definitely rings a bell somehow.....

.... oh yeah, wasn't he the guy who competed with Hillary for the nomination a while ago before she absolutely spanked him?

[Armstead]

43. 40 pecent of our voters.....I vaguely remember them. Yeah where did they go?

How come Trump is beating us? What happened to all that support we thought we had when she won the nomination?

[Nye Bevan]

44. National poll: Clinton lead grows over Trump

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/poll-trump-clinton-who-is-winning-224298

[Armstead]

45. Keep dismissing Sanders and you'll see what happens as it progresses

Apathy, frustration, alienation from the party message....etc. None of that is conducive to high voter turnout.

But go ahead. keep on acting like the significant number of voters and potential voters who support Bernie don't matter.

[eastwestdem]

31. They love him. He does nothing but praise their party and their leaders.

And I understand his supporters have been sending fan mail to the super delegates as well.

[Silver_Witch]

33. Can't stop can you. Just keep building unity!

[yodermon]

34. Well a judge has just confirmed that the FBI is conducting a *criminal* investigation

of the Clinton Email server scandal,
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-judge-investigation-224314
confirming what the White House said the other day.

So super-delegate outreach is firmly in the hands of James Comey

[Renew Deal]

35. There's another misconception that Bernie is the next one up if something happens to Hillary

He's not. The non-Bernie delegates are leading by around 900 over the Bernie delegates. If something happens to Hillary it goes to Biden or maybe Warren (if she really wants it).

[yodermon]

36. Honest question, how do you think the general public

and regular Democrats would feel about that? Do you think there would be any electoral consequences?

[Renew Deal]

39. Can't say

Voters are serious and choose from the candidates available. That's why I think the republicans dumping Trump would be significant. Most people will choose the president from the choices available. They won't be concerned with how they got there.

[KingFlorez]

48. What you fail to understand is that this fantasy indictment wouldn't make Sanders a winner

He'd still have lost the popular vote by a landslide and the pledged delegate count. Being a winner by default is hardly "revolutionary". The entire point of his campaign was to win voters over with his message.

[yodermon]

58. 4th most votes EVER for a Democrat in the primaries, and he was supposed to be a Kucinich-style

candidate. Is it really a binary state, in your mind? Lost the vote = message invalidated? Look at the age of the Bernie's supporters, his "message" is the future of the party. If your view is "the loser and his supporters shall now sit down and shut up, because scoreboard" then you will have a very difficult time of it in the next 2 cycles.

Oh and as for the indictment fairy; I don't understand why you guys trust James Comey so damn much. He is fucking REPUBLICAN for chrissakes. If he doesn't recommend indictment now, he will just use the information gathered during the investigation to blackmail her during her administration. Awesome that you're ok with that. And the only reason the repukes haven't come out swinging full force on this issue (and they haven't, holy shit they have NOT) is because A) they are busy trying to unfuck themselves with donald trump, and/or B) they are just saving up for the general. Hell the House might just impeach her during the lame duck session just for grins & giggles.

Anyway, enjoy the next 4 years! Hope she has better luck convincing the repukes to work with her than Obama did.

[QC]

38. "We will never get past the primary if sore winners choose to keep trashing Bernie Sanders."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=10561

[KingFlorez]

50. That's a lost cause at this point

Right now he's got to focus on trying to get ballot access for November. That's not an easy task, but it's more doable than convincing superdelegates to ignore the pledged delegate count.

[Marr]

53. Congratulations-- you just cost your candidate a vote or two.

Every time you make one of these smarmy posts to service your own animosities, you nudge someone a few more inches into the 'why bother' category.

Your candidate needs you... to check your inner 5-year-old.

[Cali_Democrat]

56. So people won't vote for Hillary because anonymous posters said mean things on the interwebz?

[Marr]

63. Flatly, yes.

And if that really seems crazy to you, then you're just out of touch. People commonly form opinions about products and brands based on their overall online presence. That means everything from forums to social media. It's kind of a big industry-- maybe you've missed it.

People have been and continue to form opinions about Hillary based on her fans' behavior online. If that's really shocking to you, then I think I finally understand why Hillary had such a hard time securing the nomination from a 72 year old, unknown Jewish socialist.

[Lazy Daisy]

66. Yes

And feel free to call them all the names you want, but fact is people do things for very different reasons. Feelings is a reason.
Make a person feel unwelcome and they'll leave. Make enough people leave and you end up with nobody.
Why do you think one of the reasons there is such an uproar in the Republican party? They've been dog whistling for how long now and it's been accepted. But get a person who vocalizes what they only whisper and holy cow!! The same people who really believe the shit Trump spews are the people who are now denouncing him....... because he said mean things........

Get it?

But carry on with your current path..... I'll be here to pass out the tissues for the tears. Cause I'm good like that

[Renew Deal]

64. Our candidate

[Marr]

65. When she officially has the nomination, maybe.

That depends on what she does to actually court my vote. She has yours, so you're a non-factor. Me and others like me are the ones that she needs to butter up. That means you, too, if you really want to act as her advocate.

Impress me.

[Dem2]

55. He gained 1 super and it went to the top of Reddit politics

Between that, the California math thread and the indictment speculation, I feel uncomfortable imagining what people are feeling.

[SheenaR]

59. To quote the great Clinton supporters at DU

6/16

Thank god.

This snarky, baiting bullshit will stop.

[Lazy Daisy]

61. I'd say about as well

as Hillary's outreach to the millennials.


Who do you think is going to feel a more crushing defeat? Bernie never thought he'd make it this far so.......I'm guessing he's prepared for a loss.

[Renew Deal]

72. Her outreach is doing well

Poll numbers are up and Sanders staffers have moved to Hillary's campaign.

[ThinkCritically]

71. Here is a simple answer.

Super delegates don't vote until July.