2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAre there any rules that say Sanders must concede?
Then why can't people deal with the system that's in place? If people don't like it, change it.YouDig
(2,280 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)before the convention Trump wins?
Just how bad a candidate do you think Clinton is?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)And he doesn't seem to care. Nothing is guaranteed, we need to do everything to make sure Trump doesn't win. Which right now means Bernie concedes and endorses.
Autumn
(45,057 posts)Autumn
(45,057 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)Everybody keeps saying it but no one will explain it.
I guess Brock forgot to put that in the snarking points memo.
Autumn
(45,057 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)It's all about the team, specifically being on the winning team and putting down the losing team, like those pathetic football fans who like to talk about how "we" beat Michigan or whomever when actually they didn't beat anyone, as they were actually sitting on their asses guzzling Milwaukee's Best.
The sticking point is that they are not getting to see the show of submission that they want. Politics, according to this crew, is about spiking the ball and dancing in the end zone. Things like making people's lives better don't enter the picture.
They are being denied the sight of the crestfallen team trudging off the field with tears in their eyes and that just will not do!
deathrind
(1,786 posts)But that will continue to be a talking point due to its effectiveness of casting a negative light on Sanders.
Rincewind
(1,203 posts)think Hillary is a bad candidate. And she proved she's a much better candidate than Bernie. According to the majority of voters.
G_j
(40,366 posts)when people would augment their opinions with IMO (in my opinion)
panader0
(25,816 posts)You think a complete idiot can beat her?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)HRC only has a 55% unfavorable rating! Rejoice!
4nic8em
(482 posts)Hillary, on national TV, say that she encouraged Bernie to stay in all the way to the convention? Seems to be a slight disconnect between Hillary supporters and Hillary herself. We all know why she said it, although Hillary's followers would rather eat nails than admit to it, much less post it openly on DU.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)At the same time he's not staying in for her sake
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)So if his plan rests on a stirring speech to win him the first vote, he's shit out of luck.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Bluestar
(1,400 posts)I've lost all respect for him.
demwing
(16,916 posts)but Bernie still loves you
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Give much of a shit about that... really that is true and it won;t ever change....
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)no matter the odds their drive is often respected - especially when the cause is for something greater than one's self.
tonight, you were a part of history. whether you participated or not.
america's people made history tonight through bernie sanders. he is for all of us and the future of our democracy.
i encourage you to listen to the full address he gave tonight. it is about 20 minutes.
on to the convention!
Bluestar
(1,400 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)He has a sad.
Look at it this way...if his supporters had grown weary of his message, he'd already be gone. I respect the need to "vent" but a statement like "I've lost all respect for him" applies to you, and only you, and it's not relevant to the fact that this man is still fighting for what many people want.
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panader0
(25,816 posts)Please come up with something better.
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)and voting for whoever they like? No? You'd think there was, judging by the amount of screaming about it by the Sanders base these last ~6 months or so.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)FDR_Liberal
(41 posts)Its funny how chris matthews is posted on du.... the guy that voted for bush and openly admitted it. What a scumbag that guy is, still saying bernie isnt a dem although hes running as a dem, dws approved him running on the dem side but hes no dem. Clearly chris matthews doesnt even understand basic politics. Guy needs to retire asap.... and joy reid.... dont even get me started on joy "mrs comcast" reid.
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)of honor and fair play.
Why can't he admit he has lost?
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)who follow the fantasy world of memes and all those who allow resentment and bittern the power of a people committing to a revolution of justice for the 99% and the planet.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)A little distraction on our side while Trump self destructs isn't really hurting our side I don't think.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)It's what everyone who loses an election is expected to do. Concede and congratulate the winner.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)You will find it quite illuminating.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)pkdu
(3,977 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Tal Vez
(660 posts)He and Clinton are just discussing the best way for him to do it. They are thinking of your feelings.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)at those damn Democrats all he wants to. Bottom line he didn't have the right stuff to compete. He failed.
tandot
(6,671 posts)He will play an important part ... we must integrate some of his positions... but we also need to recognize that the Democratic Party is a big tent
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)He lost and everyone knows it, even him. He loses credibility with each passing day at this point. He's transistioning form genuine force to irrelevant crackpot.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)He is going to the DNC and it is his right! Mrs. Clinton did not concede when she had to do. Am glad Mr. Sanders is going to the Convention, he has valuable input to change how the Democratic party behave. Kudos to Mr. Sanders!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)But, then, no surprise that such "elitist" details would be anathema to the Bern, up there on his high horse of moral absolutism and superiority.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)because I trust them. The rest have proven dubious sources of information mixed with manipulation, so consider the source. I don't like tuning people out, but after being lied to continuously, I'd go crazy if i didn't.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)Jerry Brown didn't concede in 1992. Ted Kennedy didn't concede in 1980. Ron Paul never dropped out.
If the DNC wants to take retribution on Bernie, they are welcome to do. But they will alienate a sizable portion of potential Clinton voters.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)to acknowledge (an opponent's victory, score, etc.) before it is officially established:
to concede an election before all the votes are counted.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/concede
If she wins, she wins and he can acknowledge it then.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)...the chances that the people he inspired to get active, stay active into the future.
And it's the best way to maximize portion of his supporters who will come out for Clinton, and other Democrats, in Nov.
Both very good things.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512195488
MFM008
(19,806 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)So why couldn't HE deal with the "system that's in place" every time he competed in a state that didn't have an open primary?
There is no rule that says he must concede. There's also no rule that says he won't be kicked to the curb, the ultimate sore loser, if he doesn't.
His choice. If he wants to continue to act like a two-year old having a tantrum, that's his prerogative.
Does a Bernie screaming that he's "taking it to the Convention" actually make a sound if there's no one there to hear it?