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Are there any rules that say Sanders must concede? (Original Post) G_j Jun 2016 OP
No rule. It just depends whether he cares about the future of the country. YouDig Jun 2016 #1
So the theory is that if he doesn't end his campaign Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #4
It helps Trump the longer he holds out. YouDig Jun 2016 #8
How does it help Trump? Autumn Jun 2016 #19
I ask again. How does it help Trump? Autumn Jun 2016 #25
Just sounds like crickets. Jackilope Jun 2016 #29
I wonder about that myself. QC Jun 2016 #35
I am going to ask that every tine I see one of them saying it. Autumn Jun 2016 #36
As I said in another post that one of my poor stalkers tried to get hidden, QC Jun 2016 #39
It doesn't. deathrind Jun 2016 #38
I personally don't Rincewind Jun 2016 #53
there was a time G_j Jun 2016 #10
Are you worried about HRC's chances against Trump? panader0 Jun 2016 #15
Of course I am. The consequences would be disastrous, and nothing is guaranteed. YouDig Jun 2016 #16
Well, Trump has a 70% unfavorable rating. panader0 Jun 2016 #18
Then why would 4nic8em Jun 2016 #34
She doesn't want to push him out geek tragedy Jun 2016 #41
Active candidates don't speak at the convention before the delegates vote. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #2
He will not be the nominee whether he concedes or not. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #3
Yes, the rule of common decency Bluestar Jun 2016 #5
: onecaliberal Jun 2016 #11
I know you're devastated demwing Jun 2016 #20
actually very few really Old Codger Jun 2016 #24
if a person wants to climb a high mountain hopemountain Jun 2016 #43
Same stump speech, different day. n/t Bluestar Jun 2016 #46
He called me about that last night! Miles Archer Jun 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jun 2016 #6
The Japanese soldier holdout meme is getting old. panader0 Jun 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jun 2016 #21
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #23
Because he keeps talking, and the party doesn't like all that populist talk n/t arcane1 Jun 2016 #7
Is there any rule preventing superdelegates from endorsing as early as they like Tarc Jun 2016 #9
Sanders must concede if wants convention speech Gothmog Jun 2016 #12
Chris matthews, the man that gave us george w bush FDR_Liberal Jun 2016 #42
None but the sense LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #13
he has only lost in the minds of the main stream media and those hopemountain Jun 2016 #44
I don't care what he does Dem2 Jun 2016 #14
Conceding isn't about "rules," it's about respecting the will of the voters. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #22
When did Bernie endorse Obama in 2008. Look it up. pkdu Jun 2016 #26
Apples and Oranges..here I go with that fruit again... bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #28
Oh please tell how. Nt pkdu Jun 2016 #56
Because it seems they can't deal with it. bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #27
Your problem is that he wants to concede. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #30
He can stand in the yard and shake his fist MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #31
He lost .... big time??? tandot Jun 2016 #32
Don't really care at this point. Adrahil Jun 2016 #33
No, Mr. Sanders does not need to concede. akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #37
No rule that he gets to speak at the DNC either nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #40
No, just traditional conventions of common courtesy and good manners. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #45
Commom Courtesy, Good Sportsmanship. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #47
I'm taking my cues from the Bernie campaign felix_numinous Jun 2016 #48
Nobody has to concede TSIAS Jun 2016 #49
Right! After all, the definition of concede is k8conant Jun 2016 #51
The course he's chosen is the best way to maximize... pat_k Jun 2016 #50
I don't care what he does. MFM008 Jun 2016 #52
Civility? Metric System Jun 2016 #54
Bernie said he knew the rules going in. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #55
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. So the theory is that if he doesn't end his campaign
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:19 PM
Jun 2016

before the convention Trump wins?

Just how bad a candidate do you think Clinton is?

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
8. It helps Trump the longer he holds out.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:21 PM
Jun 2016

And he doesn't seem to care. Nothing is guaranteed, we need to do everything to make sure Trump doesn't win. Which right now means Bernie concedes and endorses.

QC

(26,371 posts)
35. I wonder about that myself.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jun 2016

Everybody keeps saying it but no one will explain it.

I guess Brock forgot to put that in the snarking points memo.

QC

(26,371 posts)
39. As I said in another post that one of my poor stalkers tried to get hidden,
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:07 AM
Jun 2016
These people don't do issues.

It's all about the team, specifically being on the winning team and putting down the losing team, like those pathetic football fans who like to talk about how "we" beat Michigan or whomever when actually they didn't beat anyone, as they were actually sitting on their asses guzzling Milwaukee's Best.


The sticking point is that they are not getting to see the show of submission that they want. Politics, according to this crew, is about spiking the ball and dancing in the end zone. Things like making people's lives better don't enter the picture.

They are being denied the sight of the crestfallen team trudging off the field with tears in their eyes and that just will not do!

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
38. It doesn't.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:07 AM
Jun 2016

But that will continue to be a talking point due to its effectiveness of casting a negative light on Sanders.

Rincewind

(1,203 posts)
53. I personally don't
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:04 AM
Jun 2016

think Hillary is a bad candidate. And she proved she's a much better candidate than Bernie. According to the majority of voters.

4nic8em

(482 posts)
34. Then why would
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary, on national TV, say that she encouraged Bernie to stay in all the way to the convention? Seems to be a slight disconnect between Hillary supporters and Hillary herself. We all know why she said it, although Hillary's followers would rather eat nails than admit to it, much less post it openly on DU.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
2. Active candidates don't speak at the convention before the delegates vote.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jun 2016

So if his plan rests on a stirring speech to win him the first vote, he's shit out of luck.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
24. actually very few really
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jun 2016

Give much of a shit about that... really that is true and it won;t ever change....

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
43. if a person wants to climb a high mountain
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jun 2016

no matter the odds their drive is often respected - especially when the cause is for something greater than one's self.

tonight, you were a part of history. whether you participated or not.

america's people made history tonight through bernie sanders. he is for all of us and the future of our democracy.

i encourage you to listen to the full address he gave tonight. it is about 20 minutes.

on to the convention!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
57. He called me about that last night!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:08 AM
Jun 2016

He has a sad.



Look at it this way...if his supporters had grown weary of his message, he'd already be gone. I respect the need to "vent" but a statement like "I've lost all respect for him" applies to you, and only you, and it's not relevant to the fact that this man is still fighting for what many people want.

Response to G_j (Original post)

Response to panader0 (Reply #17)

Response to Renew Deal (Reply #21)

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
9. Is there any rule preventing superdelegates from endorsing as early as they like
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:23 PM
Jun 2016

and voting for whoever they like? No? You'd think there was, judging by the amount of screaming about it by the Sanders base these last ~6 months or so.

 

FDR_Liberal

(41 posts)
42. Chris matthews, the man that gave us george w bush
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

Its funny how chris matthews is posted on du.... the guy that voted for bush and openly admitted it. What a scumbag that guy is, still saying bernie isnt a dem although hes running as a dem, dws approved him running on the dem side but hes no dem. Clearly chris matthews doesnt even understand basic politics. Guy needs to retire asap.... and joy reid.... dont even get me started on joy "mrs comcast" reid.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
44. he has only lost in the minds of the main stream media and those
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jun 2016

who follow the fantasy world of memes and all those who allow resentment and bittern the power of a people committing to a revolution of justice for the 99% and the planet.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
14. I don't care what he does
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jun 2016

A little distraction on our side while Trump self destructs isn't really hurting our side I don't think.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
22. Conceding isn't about "rules," it's about respecting the will of the voters.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jun 2016

It's what everyone who loses an election is expected to do. Concede and congratulate the winner.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
30. Your problem is that he wants to concede.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jun 2016

He and Clinton are just discussing the best way for him to do it. They are thinking of your feelings.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
31. He can stand in the yard and shake his fist
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:01 AM
Jun 2016

at those damn Democrats all he wants to. Bottom line he didn't have the right stuff to compete. He failed.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
32. He lost .... big time???
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:01 AM
Jun 2016

He will play an important part ... we must integrate some of his positions... but we also need to recognize that the Democratic Party is a big tent

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
33. Don't really care at this point.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jun 2016

He lost and everyone knows it, even him. He loses credibility with each passing day at this point. He's transistioning form genuine force to irrelevant crackpot.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
37. No, Mr. Sanders does not need to concede.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jun 2016

He is going to the DNC and it is his right! Mrs. Clinton did not concede when she had to do. Am glad Mr. Sanders is going to the Convention, he has valuable input to change how the Democratic party behave. Kudos to Mr. Sanders!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
45. No, just traditional conventions of common courtesy and good manners.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jun 2016

But, then, no surprise that such "elitist" details would be anathema to the Bern, up there on his high horse of moral absolutism and superiority.



felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
48. I'm taking my cues from the Bernie campaign
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jun 2016

because I trust them. The rest have proven dubious sources of information mixed with manipulation, so consider the source. I don't like tuning people out, but after being lied to continuously, I'd go crazy if i didn't.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
49. Nobody has to concede
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:43 AM
Jun 2016

Jerry Brown didn't concede in 1992. Ted Kennedy didn't concede in 1980. Ron Paul never dropped out.

If the DNC wants to take retribution on Bernie, they are welcome to do. But they will alienate a sizable portion of potential Clinton voters.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
51. Right! After all, the definition of concede is
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:02 AM
Jun 2016

to acknowledge (an opponent's victory, score, etc.) before it is officially established:
to concede an election before all the votes are counted.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/concede

If she wins, she wins and he can acknowledge it then.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
50. The course he's chosen is the best way to maximize...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:48 AM
Jun 2016

...the chances that the people he inspired to get active, stay active into the future.

And it's the best way to maximize portion of his supporters who will come out for Clinton, and other Democrats, in Nov.

Both very good things.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512195488

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
55. Bernie said he knew the rules going in.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:25 AM
Jun 2016

So why couldn't HE deal with the "system that's in place" every time he competed in a state that didn't have an open primary?

There is no rule that says he must concede. There's also no rule that says he won't be kicked to the curb, the ultimate sore loser, if he doesn't.

His choice. If he wants to continue to act like a two-year old having a tantrum, that's his prerogative.

Does a Bernie screaming that he's "taking it to the Convention" actually make a sound if there's no one there to hear it?

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