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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:18 PM Jun 2016

The Atlantic: "it makes a certain sense that Sanders would remain in the race"

Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:17 AM - Edit history (1)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/bernie-sanders-next-steps/487457/

...It seems clear, however, that Sanders is no longer focused on battling for the White House. Instead, he is intent on leaving a mark on the Democratic party, and ensuring that Donald Trump does not win the White House. “The major political task that we face in the next five months is to make certain that Donald Trump is defeated and defeated badly,” Sanders said in his address. “I personally intend to begin my role in that process in a very short period of time.”

Yet the senator emphasized that defeating “Trump cannot be our only goal,” pivoting to a discussion of his Democratic rival. “It is no secret that Secretary Clinton and I have strong disagreements on some very important issues,” Sanders noted, but quickly added: “It is also true that our views are quite close on others.” Overall, he spoke of Clinton more as a partner than as an adversary. “I look forward, in the coming weeks, to continued discussions between the two campaigns to make certain that your voices are heard and that the Democratic Party passes the most progressive platform in its history,” Sanders said. “I also look forward to working with Secretary Clinton to transform the Democratic Party.”

....it makes a certain sense that Sanders would remain in the race. He may never again have the kind of visibility that comes with a presidential campaign. His standing may diminish the longer he stays in the race, but the alternative is to give up the national platform he currently commands as a presidential candidate altogether.

The changes Sanders is pressing for have the potential to power his political revolution forward. The party platform is ultimately not binding, but if Sanders can extract concessions from Clinton, and especially if he can do it in a highly publicized way, that could lay the groundwork for enacting a more progressive agenda down the line. As Brian Goldsmith recently wrote in The Atlantic, “once in office, presidents almost always try to carry out their pre-election agendas.”


Of course, as discussed in the article, there are potential downsides to not "officially" conceding, but for all intents and purposes, the HAS conceded.

He's going to the convention with his delegates, not for the nomination, but to give voice to his supporters. He'll be fundraising for Dems down ticket. He'll be working to get Hillary elected.

I think the course he's chosen is the most effective way to maximize the chances that the people he inspired to get active, stay active into the future. As the article says "to power his political revolution forward." I think it's also the most effective way to maximize the number of supporters that get behind Hillary.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/upshot/bernie-sanders-and-the-terms-of-surrender.html

But maybe he’s on the right track. If he can drive a hard bargain at the convention, maybe he can help smooth the path to unity by showing his supporters that he’s won concessions. He may have more credibility with his supporters when he eventually comes around to supporting Clinton. He’s not the typical politician — in many ways. He may never run again (he’ll be 78 in 2020). So why not drive a hard bargain?




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The Atlantic: "it makes a certain sense that Sanders would remain in the race" (Original Post) pat_k Jun 2016 OP
The DNC should make him openly compromise on something. Then his supporters will turn on him. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #1
You don't know us or him. 840high Jun 2016 #2
I've known exactly who you all are since you all abandoned Obama in 2010 and put the GOP in charge. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #3
nope - you don't know me 840high Jun 2016 #5
You know very little tk2kewl Jun 2016 #7
LOL! vintx Jun 2016 #9
that's mighty high if you G_j Jun 2016 #10
"You all"...?? pat_k Jun 2016 #12
agreed, 840. Pathetic first response. I will never turn on him. Ever. roguevalley Jun 2016 #4
..... 840high Jun 2016 #6
Unnn, we've seen how Obama was turned on... we know something about "us" uponit7771 Jun 2016 #15
BrockyDrake PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #8
Exactly, he is a smart man who knows he cannot toss people aside so quickly, plus he always said ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #11
The DNC best listen to Bernie RobertEarl Jun 2016 #13
He has not conceded and personally I don't give a damn what he does Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #14
 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
3. I've known exactly who you all are since you all abandoned Obama in 2010 and put the GOP in charge.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." ~Maya Angelou

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
5. nope - you don't know me
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:45 PM
Jun 2016

you don't know who i voted for. Maybe you have been on du that long - not me.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
10. that's mighty high if you
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

at the same time, it doesn't really matter what mental construct you have created to think you "know".

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
12. "You all"...??
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jun 2016

... which "you all" is that? All Bernie supporters? Really? All Bernie supporters abandoned Obama is 2010?

Such broad generalizations are offensive. "All 'you people' are xxx" (fill in the blank with whatever characteristic the prejudiced person happens to think every member of the subject group shares).

Such generalizations are offensive even if xxx is some "nice" characteristic.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
11. Exactly, he is a smart man who knows he cannot toss people aside so quickly, plus he always said ...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jun 2016

this is a political revolution, it does not begin or end on a certain date.



 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. The DNC best listen to Bernie
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jun 2016

And adopt many of his suggestions.

But only if they want unity and to beat Trump.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
14. He has not conceded and personally I don't give a damn what he does
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jun 2016

He can not help in the General except for himself...I would kick him out as soon as the vote is taken at the convention. The primary is over but Bernie won't accept that...so at the convention when she is the official nominee...then he is out whether he concedes or not. I truly think he needs and/or wants the money. I have knews for you Bernie...we don't want your 'help' in a general unless you concede and endorse.

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