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bleever

(20,616 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:19 PM Jun 2016

"It doesn't matter, you're going to lose."

I was lucky enough to attend a great small liberal arts college. Small campus, hard to get into, more National Merit Scholars in my entering class than any other school in the country.

The P.E. requirement was to make sure everyone got some exercise and weren't just scholar robots, and there were plenty of great options to choose from. One was to get together a softball team and enter the intramural league.

It was a heck of a lot of fun. For the most part.

But one day, me and by friends found ourselves scheduled against a team that wasn't like the ones we had faced previously. Even an elite private college offers athletic scholarships, as it should. It just turned out that this team was put together of men with that distinction. And that this particular combination of guys, who were certainly successful at competition in their sports, didn't seem to see the distinction between intramural sports for P.E. credit and competitive interscholastic sports.

So me and my skinny geeky friends weren't classmates; we were jokes.

It wasn't a surprise that they took the lead right away, and stayed ahead. What was a surprise was how they handled it. They openly laughed at our efforts, and loudly traded jokes between themselves about our pitiful attempts to even compete.

At first we were taken aback, and couldn't believe that they were actually aggressively taunting us in a game between classmates. But their disdain for us "losers" was being hammered home (so to speak). After a few innings, they laughingly asked if we wouldn't rather just give up. But we were there to play nine innings of softball, for the exercise, fun, and credit.

They didn't think we would notice when they chose the softer of the two balls to pitch to us. We weren't great (or even good) hitters, but they took the opportunity to use the softer ball so they wouldn't have to run as much to get anything we managed to hit.

But at one point, just wanting to see the game that we were obviously going to lose played fairly, I asked the pitcher on the other team to please pitch the other ball.

After a pause to pretend that he didn't know there was a difference, he laughed and said, "It doesn't matter, you're still going to lose."

I do believe that Hillary Clinton will be a good president, despite my reservations about things like trusting Henry Kissinger (wtf!) and lack of focus on Wall Street reform and institutional changes to reverse the way the field has been tilted over the last 45 years so that the benefits of prosperity are funneled purposely to the very top of the 1%. I also believe that she is better than much of the trash-talking triumphalism in the discourse of many of her supporters.

I need to believe that.




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LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
1. Ignore us trash talking Hillary supporters
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jun 2016

We know we are all on the same side. And most of us would have supported Sanders had he won the nomination, no doubt.

bleever

(20,616 posts)
9. Do you have an opinion about the best way
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jun 2016

for Hillary to consolidate her support out of this divided primary season?

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
10. I can't speak for her
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jun 2016

she isn't really responsible for this divide, nor is Bernie.

Would it be insensitive to suggest that Donald Trump is what should bring us together?

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
2. Keep in mind that the animosity around here is a two way street. The Hillary supporters have also
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jun 2016

felt attacked for months. I agree that we should all make an effort to be more civil, but your analogy makes it seem like one side was innocent of any hostility.

bleever

(20,616 posts)
7. I thought Hillary was poorly served in 2008 by
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:36 AM
Jun 2016

Mark Penn and the Burson-Marsteller approach to competing with Obama. Using a disaster management firm that focused more on her opponent's possible weaknesses from a PR perspective ended up clouding her positive message.

David Brock's "Correct the Message" effort seems like a misguided PR department doubling down on that marketing approach.

And so I hope we both have our better instincts proven right by the candidate herself.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
5. If you study Hillary's Wall Street reform plan carefully I think you'll be pleasantly surprised
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jun 2016

IT's very policy wonkish rather than being a thrilling read, and that's a good thing because it tells me she's not going to lose time figuring out what the structural problems in government administration arewhen she gets into office. One thing bill Clinton's administration was famous for was the way it hit the ground running and got a tremendous amount of work done in its first hundred days. I am sure Hillary intends to repeat that approach.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/10/08/wall-street-work-for-main-street/

bleever

(20,616 posts)
11. I had a chance to read it over,
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jun 2016

and it is impressively comprehensive. Thanks for your contribution to the conversation.

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