How would Bernie have competed with Trump in the General based on finances

[SirBrockington]

If Trump, with Billions, needs to fundraise with new donor networks, I often wonder how Bernie
felt he would take on an unapologetic Republican establishment which embraces the status quo as
foundation of their principle ideology, and who would have no qualms accumulating 1 billion dollars or more
for a general.

Would he begin to accept outside money? Basically a wealthy donor. Or would he raise 1 billion,
$27 at a time, with currently 10 million in the bank.

Suppose his popularity fell and the average person either gave as much as they were able to already,
or his approval rating began to fall following 1 billion dollars worth of negative attack attacks.

It would seem relying on a steady stream of $27 donations vs. the Republican Billion dollar donor class
would be similar to taking a knife, not to a gun fight, but a knife to fight with a M1 Abrams tank.

Just a thought. Apologies if this thought offends.

[arcane1]

1. I liked the old you better.

[SirBrockington]

3. You appear to be one of the more vile posters on here

I've noticed that truthfully since you're avatar is pretty unique. You actually stand out.

If you have anything of substance to add, then sure go ahead.

[arcane1]

8. Yep, I was right. Thanks for the praise.

Just be sure not to do it more than once, or people will catch on

[SirBrockington]

9. Pinky swear

[glennward]

2. Trump doesn't need billions. He has a lock on the media and they are still giving him all the free

press.

[SirBrockington]

10. Bad Press now. The press turned on him. He still needs money for the general

[TexasBushwhacker]

4. Well the billionaires aren'supporting Trump

They may start if he was running against Bernie or they may just diddle in the Congressional and state races like the Koch's are doing. His campaign is broke right now. If he hadn't gotten all the free press from the MSM he would have been out a long time ago.

I do think that Clinton will be the nominee (even though I'm a Berner) but if something happened and it ended up being Sanders, there's no reason to believe that his donors wouldn't contribute more. After all, they can contribute $2700 during the primaries and $2700 during the GE. I would assume that he would get support from the DNC and the states as well. As much as they preferred HRC, they can't possibly want Trump to have a chance.

[SirBrockington]

11. Well thought out. Thanks for the response

[Lord Magus]

20. Really, they're not?

Sheldon Adelson certainly is. To the tune of at least $100 million.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/20/donald-trump-sheldon-adelson-israel-trip-campaign-donation

[TexasBushwhacker]

22. He hasn't yet

The campaign is going broke. He has loaned his campaign over $40M. The campaign has only raised $14M. It only had $2.4M cased on hand at the end of April (most recent report). You can read the details here:

http://docquery.fec.gov/pres//2016/M5/C00580100.html

[thesquanderer]

6. In the General, he would have had the DNC establishment at his back, instead on his back.

The entire party's fundraising apparatus would be supporting him, one way or another.

And btw, whether Trump has Billions is questionable. Certainly not in liquid assets.

[SirBrockington]

12. That is kind of my thoughts

He would still need money from the establishment either way. If he considers the DNC as part of the establishment, at some point he'd have to take money from them to win? Which is kind of enema to not taking money from the establishment.

[TexasBushwhacker]

14. It's estimated he has less than $200 Million in liquid assets

and much of his billions in worth is in his brand. He says his brand alone is worth $5- $10Billion, but Forbes put his total net worth at closer to $4B. And when his brand is worth a bucket of warm piss (soon I hope) he'll be worth half that and his Trump brand merchandise will be in the clearance section at Ross.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Trump? Hell, even a decaf Democrat like Hillary should be able to beat Trump.

[randome]

17. Heh. I like the term 'decaf Democrat'.

[MineralMan]

13. We'll never know. Bernie will not be on the ballot.

[Lil Missy]

15. He would just bleat the same speech over and over, and whine about the results.

[LoverOfLiberty]

16. I thought it was a legitimate question

and one that was being asked earlier when it seemed he had a possibility of victory. How would he compete against the Republican nominee without taking so much of that Superpac cash he has campaigned so hard against.

I don't disagree that we need to get corporate money out of our elections, but unilateral disarmament is certain suicide.

[randome]

18. I don't think Trump has billions.

[Pastiche423]

19. Simple

He would simply ask his supporters.

When there has been a call for donations, we come running.

[jfern]

21. Bernie raised millions in a day before, while Trump was desperate to raise $100k today

[Orsino]

23. Trump doesn't have billions.

Sanders only got the support he did by remaining relatively free of big private money. Trump's fiction of self-financing has already been exposed, so it won't be a factor in the general.

A Sanders run would have pitted him against the Republican Establishment, sure. As to how it would have come out, we'll never know. The only clue we have is old polling, which showed him winning handily.