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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:07 PM Jun 2016

I have been a registered, active member of

the Democratic Party since 1966. When I was 15 years old, I was a volunteer for JFK in California. I am not a "New" Democrat.

Bernie Sanders became a Democrat in 2015. He is a new Democrat.

Labels are nonsense. They serve no purpose, other than to divide people. Please don't do that. We need to come together, not split apart.

Thanks.

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I have been a registered, active member of (Original Post) MineralMan Jun 2016 OP
But you just did it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #1
I just did what? MineralMan Jun 2016 #3
Ah, but you forget that Bernie is a REAL DEMOCRAT, whereas you and I... brooklynite Jun 2016 #9
If someone identifies as a Democrat, MineralMan Jun 2016 #12
I've been saying this for a while, too. We are Democrats and we don't need a Republican President. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #22
A New Democrat is someone who follows the Koch-funded DLC/3rd Way philosophies. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #28
We are no longer in the Reaganomic era. You can stop attacking Democrats BootinUp Jun 2016 #31
We are in stage 2 of Reaganomics--rebranded. Just like Off-shoring is rebranded as Globalization. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #37
We just nominated the most liberal economic candidate since Mondale who BootinUp Jun 2016 #39
Well, when that candidate and family divests from KXL and renuonces The Podesta Group, perhaps. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #42
Fool me once.... 840high Jun 2016 #34
Exactly. 840high Jun 2016 #33
So you take a another swipe at Sanders. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #2
See my reply above. MineralMan Jun 2016 #6
So he's a 2015 newcomer, eh? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #10
I've been to the White House. That doesn't make me the President. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #23
Sure, the guy with the more liberal record in the senate, and about the lowest bank balance Kentonio Jun 2016 #46
I guess that does not count Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #27
A 'New Democrat' is one who ascribes to right wing Republican economic policies AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #4
Willfull ignorance can't be cured by education. vintx Jun 2016 #7
Yep. New, as in neo-liberals of which Mr. Sanders sure as shit is not. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #17
You were doing so well until you stuck the "new" in the second line. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #5
Did I gets the facts wrong? MineralMan Jun 2016 #8
Which is why I think you should have written: PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #11
New means recent. MineralMan Jun 2016 #14
Labels are labels, and 'new' has no precise meaning. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #18
Look it up. MineralMan Jun 2016 #21
Agree 100%. Wellstone ruled Jun 2016 #13
You picked the wrong username. Might want to change your sig. vintx Jun 2016 #16
Sorry,not going to happen. Wellstone ruled Jun 2016 #32
Thank you. You got my point. MineralMan Jun 2016 #19
Then why are you doing this? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #15
OP's last chance to get one in before the deadline. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #20
The thing about this, though SpareribSP Jun 2016 #24
ImWithHillary. Proud Democrat here. oasis Jun 2016 #25
I'm with Bernie. Long time 840high Jun 2016 #36
Yikes! I agree with you MM. Labels are nonsense and should be disregarded when voting. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #26
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #41
The reason nobody will believe what you post... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #29
K & R BootinUp Jun 2016 #30
K&R mcar Jun 2016 #35
You just labeled yourself. Autumn Jun 2016 #38
You are supporting the 3rd way. Call it whatever you like but this is not JFK's party any longer. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #40
In many states there are no party registrations. None whatsoever. longship Jun 2016 #43
Good post. seabeckind Jun 2016 #47
Really! People on here know who you are! akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #44
hmmm. that's why you spent years and years on sites that were cali Jun 2016 #45
Then why do you put so much value in the label? seabeckind Jun 2016 #48
People > Party pinebox Jun 2016 #49

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
3. I just did what?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

I'm a Democrat. Bernie is a Democrat. When we joined the party is irrelevant. We are Democrats. We are part of the same party.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. If someone identifies as a Democrat,
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jun 2016

I accept their word on the matter. We're all Democrats, if we vote for Democratic candidates. If we do not, then perhaps not.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
28. A New Democrat is someone who follows the Koch-funded DLC/3rd Way philosophies.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:27 PM - Edit history (1)

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
31. We are no longer in the Reaganomic era. You can stop attacking Democrats
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

for being trapped in it with everyone else.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
23. I've been to the White House. That doesn't make me the President.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie was the one who made a conscious decision to remain an Independent and never let us forget that. Had he been able to advance on committees without making a conscious decision to caucus with one party or another, he would be nowhere in the Senate today. Therefore it was in his interest to caucus with one of the parties and he chose to caucus with the Democratic Party. He doesn't get brownie points for simply serving his own interests.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
46. Sure, the guy with the more liberal record in the senate, and about the lowest bank balance
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jun 2016

Is apparently now the guy who is just 'serving his own interests'..

It beggars belief how twisted peoples views have become this primary.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
4. A 'New Democrat' is one who ascribes to right wing Republican economic policies
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

Hope that clears it up for ya

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
8. Did I gets the facts wrong?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jun 2016

I put the capitalized New In quotation marks. I have been a Democrat far longer than Bernie has. But we are still both Democrats, are we not?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
11. Which is why I think you should have written:
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders became a Democrat in 2015. He is a Democrat.

instead of:

Bernie Sanders became a Democrat in 2015. He is a new Democrat.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
14. New means recent.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jun 2016

That is all it means, which is precisely my point. It is an adjective relating to time, and that only. My post was factual and precise.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Agree 100%.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jun 2016

Became a Democrat in 1959,part of the Original Humphrey for President Club in 1960. Later joined up with the JFK folks after we lost out in the in the Primaries.

So tired of the Labels,we are all Democrats and now it is time to get this Election done in our favor. This idea of not voting for the Party Nominee is pure BULLCRAP.


And Bernie Sanders will be out there Campaigning for all of our Candidates.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
16. You picked the wrong username. Might want to change your sig.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jun 2016

"I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic party." - Paul Wellstone

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. Sorry,not going to happen.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jun 2016

Introduced Mr.Wellstone at our precinct caucus in 1984 when he first got active in Minnesota DFL Politics on the State level,and was considering running for Senate.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
19. Thank you. You got my point.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jun 2016

Had Bernie won, I would be campaigning for him. I support Democrats for election. I don't qualify that with time-related adjectives.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
15. Then why are you doing this?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jun 2016

Very divisive to insult a fellow Democrat that has caucused with us for decades.

SpareribSP

(325 posts)
24. The thing about this, though
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jun 2016

Is that third way centrism etc. did, and does exist. Bill Clinton called himself a New Democrat. Object to the term if you wish, but there is a tug of war going on between centrists and the more progressive wing. The rift continues and the fight ranges on because the progressive do not feel like their objections have been sufficiently heard or understood.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
26. Yikes! I agree with you MM. Labels are nonsense and should be disregarded when voting.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jun 2016
Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. John Quincy Adams

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
29. The reason nobody will believe what you post...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jun 2016

... is highlighted by you telling us what a real Democrat IS.

The allegiance to the status quo here is nauseating in the name of WHO is WHAT? The most real example of a Democrat was FDR and his understanding of bringing the economy back to the point where investing it in the American worker was key to its success. The second Bill of Rights was going to be his crowned jewel on his legacy, but he died too soon to complete it. Bernie Sanders is the only Democrat (Democratic Socialist, to be exact) who offered us hope of that legacy.

What's the good of informing us not only who you are, but who Bernie Sanders is not, when the next sentence contained, "We need to come together, not split apart".

That's about as insincere as it gets.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
38. You just labeled yourself.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jun 2016

a registered, active member of the Democratic Party. And then you labeled Bernie.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
40. You are supporting the 3rd way. Call it whatever you like but this is not JFK's party any longer.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

And it was far from perfect then.

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. In many states there are no party registrations. None whatsoever.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:21 AM - Edit history (3)

So you can stop ringing that cockamamie bell. There is no party registration in Vermont, either. Or in many states.

But you already knew that. So ones only conclusion is that you are just trying to stir the pot. And cause trouble.

My state, Michigan, has not had partisan registration for years, like many other states. Including Minnesota!

So, there is no way to be a registered Democrat in Michigan, Vermont, or many other states. Including Minnesota!

So stop making shit up, MineralMan. There's no practical way to have a closed presidential primary in these states.

Love ya, but you are beginning to piss me off with this crap.

You are wrong. Just wrong.

And, BTW, if I were wanting to be an utter jerk I would remind you that you are likely not registered Democratic Party either, as in Minnesota it's technically called the Democratic-Farmer-Labor party.

Stop this shit, my good friend. Just stop.

My best to you.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
45. hmmm. that's why you spent years and years on sites that were
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 05:54 AM
Jun 2016

decidedly not oriented toward the democratic party espousing views antithetical to democratic ideals?

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
48. Then why do you put so much value in the label?
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 08:33 AM
Jun 2016

It might be a nice exercise to sit down and look at a list of the principles of JFK or FDR or any of those democrats from your youth and then compare it to a list of the positions of the current contenders.

Not just for the presidency but also for the legislative positions.

I think you would get a very big surprise.

Very big.

You looked at the label and drew a conclusion from the label, not the thing under it.

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