2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPer Rachel just now: Warren is being vetted!
This would go a long way with Hillary's perceived "weakness" with economics.
What a dynamic duo!
johara
(47 posts)Warren would be a superb VP pick! It would clearly signal that progressiveism has finally returned to America for the first time in four decades, and that notion truly excites me.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)but Hillary could do a lot worse.
PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)as the Lion of the Senate. She has done tremendous good there, and has been absolutely tireless in advancing progressive ideas and policies.
Could she be a good VP? Oh, you bet. She's smart, articulate and would go full-on in the campaign. Trump and his evil minions can't hold a candle to Senator Warren.
In the worst case scenario, should she become VP and then have to take over the Presidency, could she? Again, you bet. I would have every confidence that Warren would be fine in that highest office.
But, again, if she becomes Clinton's VP, we lose a Lion in the Senate. That, in the long run might be a bigger downside than the strength she'd add to Clinton's ticket.
Still, we'll see. I don't much believe in coincidence and however it shakes out, it will be as it is meant to be. As the Rev. King told us, Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
I must believe that in the end, justice will prevail. God knows, our corrupt system now is unsustainable.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)but damn, what a ticket it would be!
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)But she doesn't seem to want that job, seeing as so many people were begging for her to run in this election and she emphatically said no. She'd make a great president and she'd make a great VP, but you're right that she already makes a great senator. Ideally I'd like to see her stay in the Senate long enough to end up chairing the banking committee.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I think she might, would she be young enough to run for president in eight years? That would be sweet.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)A lot of people would consider that to be too old.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Involved.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)she couldn't work for even more strongly from outside it. Except vote, and her Democratic successor would do that. Certainly her role of generating public support would only be enhanced.
For instance, before becoming a senator, she was a private citizen who agitated for creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and was named an assistant to the president to set it up. (She was going to be its first director, of course, but the GOP blocked that so she paid them back good by getting elected to the senate). This kind of special project is merely one example of the things she might do as VP. The CFPB isn't doing as well as it might have under her strong leadership, btw, and if she were in the executive branch she'd be in position to assist it from upstairs.
One thing we can be sure of, she'd be a new-style, powerful VP, not the twiddling-thumbs old fashioned type.
riversedge
(70,093 posts)Sign me up.
Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 10:30am 12:00pm
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Hillary is coming back to Ohio on Monday, June 27, to campaign with U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren!
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HarmonyRockets
(397 posts)It's a little convenient that this news came out during the two days she was giving her progressive economic policy pitch. And right after the news that Wall Street was against her.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)because she has Native American ancestry. A presidential candidate is referring to someone as Pocahontas in 2016.
There are many other pros and cons for her, but having someone that exposes one of the central reasons why your opponent shouldn't be president, is too good to pass up.
Perez, Castro, or Booker would probably get equally offensive nicknames as well so that's a definite pro.
One of the main things that the Clinton campaign needs to be doing is setting up high profile PoC/female surrogates against Trump just to bring out his racism.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)His closeness with private equity firms still gives me pause, though.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)In a lot of ways she would be foolish to take the VP spot she has a lot more power and can do a lot more good in the senate...
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Old Codger
(4,205 posts)They don't like my sig line ..maybe.. looks like it was removed form that post...It seems to be missing now too, more of that "democratic" censorship I guess... so what the hell, the just deleted my sig line , no notes to me about it at all,...
Loki
(3,825 posts)it was inappropriate. We all have a different focus now.
Loki
(3,825 posts)You might want to remove that and replace it with a "T". Primary season is over.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Loki
(3,825 posts)Either by the poster or by the Admins. It was a sink with the letter "H" swirling down the drain. The primaries are over and we have a new focus and that is to prevent a Trump presidency. Time to put our divisions behind us and work together for all.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)We do need to work together to trounce Trump.
chillfactor
(7,573 posts)we might not be able to take the Senate back....I would prefer someone like Castro...Warren is an important force in the Senate....I would prefer she stay there.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)bring enthusiasm that may take the Senate back.
TwilightZone
(25,429 posts)Always has been.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,534 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I havent gotten a whole lot of information on that.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Granted he is a Latino and that is a huge plus, but we know nothing on his stances on key issues.
For a real eye opener, click here.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Julian_Castro.htm
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Value in November- To be blunt, simply, there's very little doubt as to how the latino vote is going to go, given who the GOP nominee is.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)zenabby
(364 posts)I like Warren as VP for many reasons:
1. She brings so much energy and passion.
2. I hate it when people say there should not be two women on the ticket for gender balance, when all these years, it was perfectly fine with 2 men on the ticket. Let's go all the way!
3. Bernie people!
4. She will be able to show that she can get money for speeches from Wall Street and still make any damn decision she wants, and pick anyone she wants.
5. MA is a blue state, and we will probably fill her senate seat with another democrat (Harry Reid is thinking about this)
6. It shows Hillary is self confident and does not fear being over shadowed by Warren
7. Warren as VP can focus on consumer protection and have a major role
8. Warren is also 67 years old, and this is her chance to go above being a senator. She has 10-13 years in senate anyways (how old are the oldest senators?)..and if she is physically still strong, she could run for president in 8 years!
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Assuming her constituents like her, she could be in the senate for the rest of her life if they continue to elect her. Daniel Inouye and Robert Byrd both died in the Senate, at ages 88 and 92. Strom Thurmond stayed until he was 100 and the current oldest senator is 82.
Logical
(22,457 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)if it can't be Warren, I would love to have Sherrod Brown.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)So what difference does it make if you add a second?
Maru Kitteh
(28,324 posts)looking for an excuse to proceed anyway, figure that she's got a "built in man" on the ticket, i.e., Bill.
The tickets have been XX x 44, time for YY x 1.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)That the "Annoying Orange" is smarter and less annoying than the annoying orange guy running for President.
Maru Kitteh
(28,324 posts)Yes. Arguably, more intelligent than most of what comes out of Cheeto's mouth.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)white_wolf
(6,238 posts)I mean if you're a sexist moron you're probably not going to vote for a female president regardless of the gender of the VP. Hell, if you're that stupid you'll probably be voting Trump no matter who the Democratic nominee is.
George Eliot
(701 posts)Being vetted is routine but doesn't indicate much. Good for the campaign to put her on the short list for now.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)he would do great on the trail!
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)I have confidence that Massachusetts would give us another Democrat once the special election happens. I have no such confidence about Ohio. Especially since whoever Kasich ( ) appoints would be up for reelection during a midterm election rather than a presidential year.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)But, honestly, not sure how much another older white woman from the Northeast adds to the ticket. No hate, but Hillary will win Mass with or without Warren on the ticket.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)This is her Olive branch to the Bernie left...if so...good.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Because if Hillary only picks Warren because she wants to throw a bone to us Bernie supporters, I am not optimistic that Warren would have a meaningful role in the administration. In that case, I would rather keep her in the Senate. On the other hand, if Hillary picks her because she genuinely likes her and wants her help governing, as Obama chose Biden, I am for it.
Maru Kitteh
(28,324 posts)EW seems quite genuine in her enthusiasm and support for Hillary. They seem a very good match.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)They keep publishing articles saying they barely know each other and that Hillary will only pick her if she has to. But I don't 100% trust Politico, and it seems they have more of a relationship now than they did before.
Maru Kitteh
(28,324 posts)Too Late!
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)We need her in the Senate to combat GOP obstructionism.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)She could be more effective as VP.. she would be president of the Senate as well.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Maybe I just hate to risking the chance to take back the majority.
Maru Kitteh
(28,324 posts)The Senate will be ours.
And just in case nobody has said so just yet, welcome to DU!
Maru Kitteh
(28,324 posts)I trust EW to make the best decisions for herself. I trust HRC to make the right choice for VP.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)But I believe that she can have more influence in the Senate where she is now. Still, she would be a great pick if it weren't for that. I very much look forward to the day when Elizabeth will be the Dem nominee for President and Hillary will be campaigning enthusiastically on her behalf.
As for Hill's Veep choice, she has given me every reason to trust her political judgment in this election cycle. I will only believe who that choice is when SHE herself states it. Speculation is fun. But it is not fact.
My personal hope is that Hillary does NOT choose anyone who is already very effective in an elective office. She will need help from EVERY quarter to advance her agenda. But she knows this more than anyone.
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)Rachel doesn't know who Hillary is going to pick, but said that Hillary is "signaling Warren". That seems true, especially with the Cincinnati rally coming up.
I remember being very disappointed when Hillary left the Senate to become SOS, so I understand peoples feelings about wanting Warren to stay put. However, I trust Warren to make that decision. Also, it would send a knockout message that a Hillary administration won't be business as usual.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Warren for VEEP because of all the articles being published in major media giving every possible reason why she shouldn't be and frequently not mentioning positive points, making me think some people really don't want her to be the choice. Of course we knew that from the outrageous threat from Wall Street if she were.
Btw, THIS below from Vanity Fair does not sound as if the financial industry thinks she'd be "wasted" as VEEP; quite the contrary.
Deep-pocketed donors say they dont mind Hillary moving leftbut Warren is a deal-breaker.
But theres at least one good reason to think that picking Warren in a bid to mollify Sanderss voters would backfire, by alienating that other critical Clinton constituency: the Wall Street moneymen who are terrified of the Massachusetts senator and want to keep her as far as possible from the White House.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)there are lot of good reason to pick her, and lot of good reasons not to.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I will never believe another word she says
lancer78
(1,495 posts)Is where political careers go to die. EW would be foolish to accept the VP slot.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)but I don't think they'll pick her; Hillary needs to prevent Trump from taking the center, and two women on the ticket could be too much change for some. She also doesn't help revive the Democrats in the semi-South or near Appalachia, nor with the suburbs.
Its gonna be Kaine.