Susan Sarandon Is Still ‘Not Convinced’ It’s Worth It To Vote For Hillary Clinton

[brooklynite]

Huffington Post:

Actress Susan Sarandon said she’s still “not convinced” she should vote for presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

“I’m not convinced. I’m not with her,” Sarandon tweeted Tuesday.

Sarandon has been a vocal supporter of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) throughout the Democratic presidential primary. In March, she said she didn’t know if she would vote for Clinton over presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

“I’m going to see what happens,” Sarandon said.

Here's what will happen:
1. Clinton will be named the nominee at the Convention
2. The Party will be unified around her
3. Clinton will handily beat Donald Trump

[geek tragedy]

1. Sarandon is a vapid Naderite limousine liberal upper class twit nt

[MaggieD]

5. Exactly

I have only one "friend" who is a Bernie supporter and she is rich as shit. I told her it's real easy to vote for idealism over actually getting shit done when not getting shit done won't hurt you in the least. Same holds true for that twit Sarandon. Limousine liberal indeed!

[Svafa]

60. That's funny,

because all of the people I know who supported Clinton in the primaries are rich as shit!

[MaggieD]

69. I guess you don't know any middle class people then

And the overall democratic voter demographic would be interested to know that you think they are all rich as shit. Who knew that us women, seniors, and minorities were all so rich.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/

[Svafa]

70. I don't. Pretty much everyone I know is broke AF, aside from a couple of well-off family members.

If I were to base my view of things on the people around me, I would think that the middle class doesn't even EXIST anymore. I live in an urban area with a lot of poverty, and I am youngish, so the people I know are also mostly youngish, and are burdened with college debt if they're "lucky." Stuck working crappy service-sector jobs if they're not.

[MaggieD]

72. "Broke as fuck" people voted for Clinton too

In fact she won every demo except millennials in many states. I guess your logic fails.

[Svafa]

73. How does my logic fail?

I said that I am youngish, and so are most of the people I know. Therefore, we fall into that "Millennial" category you just referenced. And again, this has nothing to do with "logic." You made a statement framed as a personal observation. I replied with my own personal observations.

[MaggieD]

74. No, you said this:

"all of the people I know who supported Clinton in the primaries are rich as shit!"

So you would like us to believe that every person you know that supported Clinton was "rich as shit" even though you then can back and said the only people you know are "broke as fuck."

Your posts make no sense from a logical standpoint.

[Svafa]

76. Wow, reading comprehension.

I said everyone I know WHO VOTED FOR CLINTON is rich as shit. Then I said that MOST of the people I know are broke, EXCEPT for some well-off family members. Implicit in that statement was that those well-off family members are the only people I know who voted for Clinton. Everyone else (i.e., most people I know, the broke ones) either supported Sanders or are too broken down and exhausted to pay attention to politics at all.

[MaggieD]

80. No, you said "pretty much everyone I know is broke as fuck"

Sadly you cannot keep your story straight. I won't bother speculating as to why that is.

Have a nice day.

[Svafa]

83. Yeah, I said "pretty much everyone," which means "MOST people, but not QUITE everyone."

Why is this so difficult to grasp? I made my point abundantly clear, and there is absolutely no contradiction in it. Now it seems that you are just nitpicking because you don't have a real argument.

Shall I rephrase?

The only people I know who voted for Clinton are the few people I know who are well-off. The majority of people I know are people who are broke or in serious debt, and these individuals did not vote for Clinton.

There, clear enough for you?

Peace out.

[MaggieD]

84. Cool story bro

[Svafa]

86. Right back atcha.

[Lyric]

99. Hi! Clinton supporter here. Poor as shit.

Trailer park in West Virginia, Food Stamps and Medicaid poor.

Nice to meet you.

[ronnykmarshall]

102. SNAP!

Love you Lyric!

[Lyric]

104. Love you too sweetness

Not loving my doctors at the moment though. Did you see my FB posts?

Ouch!

[ronnykmarshall]

108. I think ..

what's you FB name?

[Lyric]

125. Brandy Leigh Heinze. lol

My real name

[ronnykmarshall]

131. Duuurrr!

[dlwickham]

109. Hi Lyric

you didn't get hit by the flood did you?

I'm in the NW part of the state and everything was south of here

[Lyric]

126. Nope, thank goodness. I live in a little coal town in Mon County.

Outside of Morgantown. My trailer park is way up on a hill above the river. But some people in Sabraton and along route 100 near Granville got flooded pretty bad.

[dlwickham]

135. are you on Route 7?

that has to be the absolute worst road on the face of this earth!!!!!!!

I take it sometimes on the way back from Morgantown if I'm there for a doctor appointment or something

[Lyric]

138. No, I live along Scott's Run Road. Near a little town called Osage.

Heard of it?

[dlwickham]

141. I adopted a cat from a lady out that way back in the 90s

I know exactly where it is

[ronnykmarshall]

101. That's nice honey.

[AllTooEasy]

106. Really? where are all these "Rich as Shit" Blacks in the South?

and Rich as Shit Latinos in the West?

[ciaobaby]

79. Well if you don't like her that's all that matters.

Calling her a twit and rich as shit is just demeaning and adds nothing to the conversation.

[MaggieD]

82. Anybody that shouts down a civil rights icon

Demeans her, and supports Donald Trump is objectively a twit (literally defined as "a silly annoying person.&quot

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

97. Isn't shit like this supposed to stop with the new rules?

Why the unnecessary insulting of Bernie supporters especially when we are supposed to be trying to unify the prty

[Maru Kitteh]

142. No, she's an entitiled idiot shit-heel celebrity that pumped Nader

Fuck her and the limousine she rode in on.

Why would anyone think she was off limits? She's not a Democrat, not an office holder and she's not a group of supporters on DU. She's just one stupid asshole that keeps using her entitled celebrity status to say stupid asshole things.

[onehandle]

16. Beat me to it. nt

[JaneyVee]

17. Susan can afford a Trump presidency.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

18. OK, but I still think she's hot.

[Surya Gayatri]

42. Got one helluva toilet tongue, though.

[Svafa]

54. So do I! My kind of person!

[Surya Gayatri]

65. I was taught that profanity was proof of a meager vocabulary.

That early training in polite discourse has stood me well.

[Svafa]

66. Funny, I actually scored a 100% on the vocabluary portion of the ACT,

I was reading at a 12th-grade level when I was in 4th grade, I have an MA in literature, and my job as an editor necessitates that I have a strong vocabulary. But I see no reason why I shouldn't punch things up with the occasional curse word. Even Shakespeare himself was happy to employ some artful cursing in his work.

[Svafa]

87. I'm not trying to brag or imply that I was some sort of wonderkid (so far from it);

I just resent your insinuation that cursing necessarily means that a person is a moron with no language skills and was attempting to refute your erroneous claim.

[libodem]

116. Could you be any more condescending?

Very snotty tone.

[Surya Gayatri]

124. Yes, I could...when replying to baseless boasting.

[Svafa]

133. How is refuting your snobby, elitist claim

that everyone who uses bad language must be an uneducated moron with no actual vocabulary "baseless bragging"? I was simply providing concrete examples that no, swearing does not mean that a person has a poor vocabulary. That is the opposite of baseless.

[Whimsey]

119. Hell, I proficiencied freshmen rhet ...

got 10 hours credit for calculus and 4 for French my freshmen year at U of Illinois and graduated in three years with an undergraduate degree in Math and went on to law school. And I paid for half of undergraduate, and all of law school with loans and working 20-30 hour a week. And that was not an unusual story, and quite honestly the norm with my girlfriends in the 70's. Dollar for dollar, college tuition to minimum wage to tax rates were not much different than today, but we had no expectation the public would pay for our education.

But I had every expectation that if I got a good education, good work experience, and worked hard, I could support myself. Of course we did not spend half the day on the computer in those days. Did learn the very basics of computer programming however.

And damn right I am a Hillary supporter. My life was still so much easier than hers with women like her and Ruth Bader Ginsburg before her breaking barriers I can only imagine. Some of you need to read more and acknowledge the barriers that came before you. And appreciate those who walked before you.

[Svafa]

134. What does any of that have to do with profanity? Which is what the comment

you're replying to was about.

[Whimsey]

136. I had read all of your prior comments

My reply was to the totality of your comments after I reached my limit. Sorry I actually read the posts.

[ohheckyeah]

96. Fuck you, susie.

Vote for trump and show your true stripes.

[obamanut2012]

23. She also was a huge Edwards supporter

Which makes her snarking about HRC's IWR vote hysterically hypocritical.

[Maru Kitteh]

143. Uck. Forgot about that. She sure can pick 'm eh?

And she's a professional hypocrite.

[mcar]

24. This!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

48. who will never feel the effect of a presidency that us mere mortals will

[workinclasszero]

49. She's working for Trump

Just like she worked for Bush!

[yardwork]

75. Says it all. And I'm bored of her.

[Renew Deal]

2. Sarandon is bad at the game of life

[tonyt53]

3. And Sarandon is what? One person. Her opinion and thoughts are meaningless to most people.

Odd how someone that is worth millions can think their opinion matters to those that are struggling just to get by week to week.

[lunamagica]

4. So, don't vote for her, Moron. She'll win wihtout you.

[AllTooEasy]

107. Hey, Hey, Heyyyy! Let's not go there.

We sound arrogant with that kind of talk

I don't want some fence sitters out there to be turned off by that kind of talk.

[redstatebluegirl]

6. Every time I see her on tv she looks stoned :-).

[MoonRiver]

7. What a loser (literally).

[PJMcK]

85. Who are you? Donald Trump? (wink!) (n/t)

[MoonRiver]

103. No idea what you're talking about.

[PJMcK]

127. It was a weak attempt at humor

Hence the wink. Donald Trump repeatedly calls his opponents "losers" and I was trying to riff off of that. No offense was intended and I'll try harder to be funnier next time.

Have a great 4th of July!

[MoonRiver]

130. Ok, now that I understand it was kind of funny!

P.S. I'm always the last one to get the joke!

[BeyondGeography]

8. A little to the right. No, to the left. Higher. No, lower. Too much magenta.

I think there's a grain of sand or something in my shoe.

[randome]

10. Are you sure you're wearing shoes?

[sufrommich]

9. Meh,there's going to be sore loser PUMAs,there always is.

Let them stew to their hearts content,they aren't going to matter any more that the PUMAs of 2008 did.

[deathrind]

11. Obviously

She is a hieratic...apparently she did not hear what a former SoS said.

/facepalm

[Nye Bevan]

12. Someone as rich and privileged as her would not be impacted very badly by President Trump.

It would be, however, somewhat selfish to help Trump by not voting for Hillary, therefore working towards inflicting him on the rest of us.

[Frances]

13. Well said, Nye Bevan

[MineralMan]

14. Susan Sarandon's opinions on politics are singularly uninteresting.

She is completely irrelevant to the presidential election and should simply be ignored, in my opinion.

[gordianot]

15. The reason Sarandon makes such statements can be found in the responses.

She got your attention. I too am guilty she got my attention but I do not care what she says. My greatest sin is curiosity up to a point I will read about anything and talk to just about anyone. This is why I still read stories about Sarah Palin. This year I approach politics the same as people who keep and handle poisonous snakes.

[redstatebluegirl]

19. The reason we look at car wrecks, and she is certainly one of those.

[gordianot]

20. I have seen much worse.

As disasters go any support for Trump approaches a volcanic cauldron eruption or Brexit passage.

In comparison Sarandon is a fender bender.

[PJMcK]

88. She's just a dent not worth fixing (n/t)

[tallahasseedem]

21. Damn, it's like they're all robots...

parroting the same talking points. This election is NOT hard.

[MohRokTah]

22. Sarandon is a fool.

I'm so done with her stupidity.

[bravenak]

25. Over her!

[lovemydog]

53. Same here!

I think we're safely in the large majority on this one.

[bravenak]

58. I think so too

[Duval]

30. Wear silk. It's cooler.

[pkdu]

41. The A/C is turned way up in the VIP Box she will be in...better go for the Cashmere. nt

[workinclasszero]

50. I'm sure she will hire some poor sap at minimum wage (not 15 an hour)

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to carry her torch and sign when the "revolution" comes.

[jcgoldie]

27. Yeah when you are a celebrity...

... with the limelight it gives you an audience to express your political opinions. Some of them do well with that and sort of expand their influence in that regard by behaving intelligently. Others, like Ms. Sarandon, show that they should just stick to acting.

[liberal N proud]

28. Well then...

[Duval]

29. It's hard to believe people on this site are trashing Sarandon.

It's HER opinion and her choice. Doesn't she have a right to it? Good grief, guys!

[sufrommich]

32. Who said anything about her not having a right

to her opinion? Who doesn't have that right?

[metroins]

33. And

Don't they have the right to trash it by stating their opinions?

[Her Sister]

36. Yes David Duke also got them opinions!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

46. yeah and i have the equal right to call her an over-privileged egotistical moron.

[bettyellen]

51. Her "choice" is to spew idiocy, ours is to call her out on it. Hate when people use reproductive

Rights lingo to subtlet hint people are not as liberal as they are. Fuck that. We're pro choice but some people spew nonsense.

[Svafa]

56. Right?!

Just because you don't agree with her, there's no need for mud slinging, name calling, and personal insults. You're no better than Trump the playground bully if that's your MO.

[lunamagica]

59. Tell her that

[Svafa]

63. Just in this thread alone, she has been referred to as:

vapid, a moron, a car wreck, a fool, a clown, an "overprivileged egotistical moron," stupid, a drug addict, and brainless, and there have been many iterations of "fuck her."

Please give me some examples of her using language like that in reference to Clinton or her supporters.

[Surya Gayatri]

67. An example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512224817#post42

[Svafa]

132. Saying, "fuck the people who say Sanders can't get elected,"

is hardly the same as calling a specific person a vapid, brain-dead, entitled moron.

[leftofcool]

115. And she is all of the above!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maru Kitteh]

145. Oh. Poor widdle vapid elitist Naderite overprivlidged egotistical brainless drug addict

limousine "liberal" asshole might get her feelings hurt?

Yeah. Fuck her.

[obamanut2012]

62. lolz

[leftofcool]

114. Oh boy!

[lunamagica]

57. Really? Are you aware of how insulting she has been towards HRC supporters?

[840high]

93. .+1

[ronnykmarshall]

105. Sorry

But rich, white, heterosexual Susan can take her choice and shove it right up her ass.

I love her as an actress and and for many of the good things she done (outside of her Nader support in 2000), but she is full of SHIT!

She can sit out a possible Trump presidency without any worry.

My marriage would be voided and gone if Trump is elected. Women's reproductive health would be trashed if that fucker is elected.

Susan doesn't give a fuck. She has her's and if she doesn't get her way ... fuck the rest of us.

[jillan]

113. She's an actress - not a politician. LOL. It's kinda funny that people are making her

so important.

If we want to talk about actors, how about we talk about right wing wacko Chuck Norris instead?
At least Susan is a progressive.

[Lord Magus]

31. Fuck Naderites. -nt-

[La Lioness Priyanka]

47. YES!!!!

[jpak]

34. I thought she was smarter than that

I guess not....

yup

[Surya Gayatri]

43. Ah, no, Susan has never struck me as the sharpest crayon in the box.

She looks like her brains may have been boggled by drugs.

[Her Sister]

35. Everyone let's follow SS! Go where she's going!

Take what she's taking!

[radical noodle]

37. The good thing is that Sarandon isn't a Democrat

so we can say anything we want about her here.

[Lance Bass esquire]

38. F%_k her and the little horse she rode in on n/t

[farleftlib]

39. She's not convinced

She's not the only one. She's only speaking for herself but this is where many people stand.

Why the venom?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

45. actually a very small minority of democrats and liberals and bernie supporters

stand in this particularly dumb position.

[Metric System]

40. I still don't understand how she could support Edwards in 2008 but not Hillary.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

61. one of them has a penis? sexism is not something that only men endorse.

[obamanut2012]

64. Oh, I think it's very obvious what the difference is

[La Lioness Priyanka]

44. she's a fucking over privileged moron

just the type of person who pretend to vote with conscience but really i's about their ego. if your conscience allows you to fuck over all sorts of minorities for about 20 years (SC openings), your consciences is not worth shit.

[NanceGreggs]

52. And I'm still not convinced ...

... that Susan Sarandon has a brain.

[Mike Nelson]

55. Glad she's okay...

...was worried about Susan after the Republican Benghazi committee found no criminal wrongdoing by Hillary.

[Maru Kitteh]

144. Yeah, quite sure Susan believed zealously that the indictment fairy

would come. Poor, addled fool.

[LenaBaby61]

68. She has the right to NOT...

Vote for Hillary if she doesn't want to, and to even "question" Hillary's credentials if she so chooses.

But those who are criticizing her and questioning her for being hypocritical because of some of the political stances she's taken and has supported. She can point her finger at Hillary, but there are others pointing back at her too.

Works BOTH ways, although as some have said Ms. Sarandon and her children (child) can more than likely afford and can make it through a Trump presidency.

[giftedgirl77]

77. Ahh a little bit longer & she'll drift back into irrelevancy.

[HassleCat]

78. I'm not convinced, either.

But (sigh) I'm gonna vote for her.

[apcalc]

81. Susan! Here's a newsflash!

Hardly anyone gives a damn what you think or who you'll vote for.
Maybe no one.

[PJMcK]

89. Certainly not Tim Robbins (n/t)

[GeorgeGist]

111. Seems to be a lot of respondents [you included] ...

behaving otherwise.

[Gothmog]

91. Who cares what she thinks?

She voted for Nader. Enough said

[Bill USA]

92. LOL!!

[Downtown Hound]

94. Another Naderite twit who didn't get everything she wants

So she has no problem burning down the house and hurting the people she claims to care about. Fuck her.

[NastyRiffraff]

95. Who the hell cares

what this has-been thinks? If she's "not convinced" she should stay home and not vote. I doubt that Hillary Clinton will spend a nanosecond "convincing" her.

[LexVegas]

98. Dolores Huerta karma. nt

[ronnykmarshall]

100. She can kiss my ENTIRE ass!

I am so over her shit.

Yeah, if Trump gets elected SHE won't suffer or her kids. She and Rosanne can go to hell.

[JCanete]

112. Circle Jerk Thread, especially given the new rules. What is the point of posting. nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

120. It's some kind of weird group validation thing.

I don't think it leads to good places when such binary groupthink takes over a place like it's done here. There's a list of Bad Things and Bad People which/who must be excoriated. And there's a much smaller list of Good Things and Good People that/who can and should be praised. Due process is now a bad thing. Liberalism, in the traditional sense, is becoming a bad thing. England is apparently made up of a majority racist population these days. And Susan Sarandon is a bad, bad, no good person.

Name removed.

[Maru Kitteh]

146. Are you talking about the rules at DU? What rule do you assert this thread violates?

[JCanete]

147. none, but defending Sarandon's perspective would probably get my post removed,

so the tone and content of the thread is insulated from the possibility of any counter narrative. It's point is not really to generate any meaningful discussion, just to get people to pile on with snark and vitriol, in solidarity I suppose.

[Maru Kitteh]

148. I'm sure if she is worth defending it would be easy to do within the rules

You simply have to do so without attacking DUers or broad-brushing any Democratic candidates' supporters. People, many of them, have found ample opportunity and good reasons to criticize her without doing that. It seems if she is worth defending, her defenders should be able to do the same.

[insta8er]

118. And here is what will happen, people have a free will and can vote or not vote for

whomever they see fit. Please take the Trump gun and put it back in your pocket (Sarcasm).

[Beausoir]

121. Who??

[Lil Missy]

122. Sarandon can go piss up a rope. n/t

[TeamPooka]

123. Tweeting from her trailer during the filming of her her new TV miniseries for FOX TV....

FEUD
A behind the scenes look at the making of What Ever Happened to Baby Jane and how the feud between legends Bette Davis and Joan Crawford all began.

Susan is playing Bette Davis
Rupert Murdoch's Fox 21 Television is the production company and his network FX is the channel for the series.

[Orsino]

128. Well, Clinton's got time to win over more voters before and after the convention, if she wants to.

But I'm afraid you're right, and that Clinton will be able to skate into the White House thanks to Trump. I just wish she felt like she had to try more, because we need bigger progressive ideas driving a president committed to us.

[Whimsey]

137. Progressive v. pragmitist

I believe Hillary is every bit as progressive as Bernie, but with her experience she understands the necessity of nuance in a election cycle. You cannot win an election on support of progressives alone, which is why so many of us who have seen the election cycle go forward and backward support Hillary. Having a black man, who earned the vote 150 years ago, as president was progressive, having a woman who earned the vote 95 years ago is just as progressive. Progressive ideas are not just about economics. It is about moving all segments of society forward to equality. And historically women have been the most consistently least equal group across all societies.

[NurseJackie]

129. Just goes to show: the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences doesn't award Oscars 4 being smart.

Sarandon has a chip on her shoulder. She's still bitter. (Some people find comfort in holding on to their anger and nurturing their grudges so that they grow and flourish.)

[seabeyond]

139. Sarandon lost me from the start attacking all of women voting with vagina, playing the misogyny game

[AgingAmerican]

140. I will never understand the 'Susan Sarandon' obsession

Scapegoating?