Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:04 PM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
Bryan H. NishimuraThis discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NH Ethylene (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).
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Scuba | Jul 2016 | OP |
tk2kewl | Jul 2016 | #1 | |
geek tragedy | Jul 2016 | #3 | |
geek tragedy | Jul 2016 | #2 | |
Cali_Democrat | Jul 2016 | #4 | |
geek tragedy | Jul 2016 | #5 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2016 | #7 | |
MaggieD | Jul 2016 | #8 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2016 | #6 | |
Scuba | Jul 2016 | #11 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2016 | #13 | |
Scuba | Jul 2016 | #14 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2016 | #15 | |
underpants | Jul 2016 | #20 | |
sufrommich | Jul 2016 | #9 | |
Post removed | Jul 2016 | #10 | |
MyNameGoesHere | Jul 2016 | #12 | |
BobbyDrake | Jul 2016 | #17 | |
BlueStateLib | Jul 2016 | #16 | |
George II | Jul 2016 | #18 | |
pnwmom | Jul 2016 | #19 | |
nolawarlock | Jul 2016 | #21 | |
ismnotwasm | Jul 2016 | #22 | |
NCTraveler | Jul 2016 | #23 | |
Chemisse | Jul 2016 | #24 |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:07 PM
tk2kewl (18,133 posts)
1. He has no important friends and a foreign sounding name
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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
3. .
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
2. .
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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #2)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:14 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
4. I know, right?
Their tears nourish my soul.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:15 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
5. I can't make up my mind if I have less respect for Trump's true believers
or the fake-ass fauxgressives who prefer Trump to Clinton out of bitter narcissicism.
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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #5)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:48 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
7. Bingo. (nt)
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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #5)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:49 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
8. I feel you
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:48 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
6. You've been reading the Blaze?
Because you think that he did the same thing Hillary did, and got indicted.
No, he didn't do the same thing, or even a similar thing. And Hillary wasn't prosecuted for the same reason that Powell and Rice weren't. "Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both." Yet, as ABC News Legal Analyst Dan Abrams explains, several key words in this provision also weigh against charging Clinton. For one thing, a 1941 Supreme Court decision interprets the phrase “relating to the national defense” to require “‘intent or reason to believe that the information to be obtained is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation.’ This requires those prosecuted to have acted in bad faith.” That’s a high bar — there’s no apparent evidence that Clinton had reason to believe that her use of a private server would cause information to be obtained that advantaged a foreign nation or that would have caused injury to the United States. ........................................................................................................... Setting aside the bare language of the law, there’s also a very important practical reason why officials in Clinton’s position are not typically indicted. The security applied to classified email systems is simply absurd. For this reason, a former CIA general counsel told the Washington Post’s David Ignatius, “’it’s common’ that people end up using unclassified systems to transmit classified information.” “’It’s inevitable, because the classified systems are often cumbersome and lots of people have access to the classified e-mails or cables.’ People who need quick guidance about a sensitive matter often pick up the phone or send a message on an open system. They shouldn’t, but they do.” Indicting Clinton would require the Justice Department to apply a legal standard that would endanger countless officials throughout the government, and that would make it impossible for many government offices to function effectively. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/05/3795414/hillary-clinton-isnt-getting-indicted-heres/ That said, I think that an investigation into who the real owner of Old Towne Media is might bring some really interesting things to light, even more so than bank fraud stemming from land deals, or something that might be found in some old tax returns. Fortunately for that candidate, their time in the public eye is very short. |
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:56 PM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
11. Nope.
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Response to Scuba (Reply #11)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:58 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
13. You sound like it.
The indictment fairy is dead, and is not coming back to life, no matter how hard you clap.
Take your Bernie or Bust self to another forum where you can rant about Hillary 24/7. They're out there. |
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #13)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:03 PM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
14. As I've posted many, many times, I plan to hold my nose really, really tight and vote ...
... against Donald Trump in November.
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Response to Scuba (Reply #14)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:05 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
15. Your post indicates otherwise.
The not so subtle attack on the Democratic candidate is not only pointless, it's just childish.
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:51 PM
underpants (174,595 posts)
20. Heard about Nishimura first thing on RW radio this afternoon
I just did a quick search on it and found the drastic differences. He purposefully copied data that was only to be seen and stored on certain computers and took it home with him. Hillary did nothing like that.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:52 PM
sufrommich (22,871 posts)
9. Take your right wing talking points back
to where they're welcomed with open arms. Pathetic.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:56 PM
MyNameGoesHere (7,637 posts)
12. It takes me two clicks
to find a motive.
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Response to MyNameGoesHere (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:09 PM
BobbyDrake (2,542 posts)
17. You had to click? I saw it right away. lol nt
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:08 PM
BlueStateLib (937 posts)
16. Not even close
In his role as a Regional Engineer for the U.S. military in Afghanistan, Nishimura had access to classified briefings and digital records that could only be retained and viewed on authorized government computers. Nishimura, however, caused the materials to be downloaded and stored on his personal, unclassified electronic devices and storage media. He carried such classified materials on his unauthorized media when he traveled off-base in Afghanistan and, ultimately, carried those materials back to the United States at the end of his deployment. |
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:54 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
18. Why?
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:08 PM
pnwmom (107,347 posts)
19. Comey knows all about that case and why it is not relevant to Hillary.
Note that you placed this OP in the General Election 2016 forum, not General Discussion. You think you're being sly but you're not fooling anyone.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:49 PM
nolawarlock (1,729 posts)
21. Still fighting the primary, we see.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:55 PM
ismnotwasm (40,920 posts)
22. .
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:56 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
23. Link for assistance.
Very strange request you are making with no comment.
I would be willing to click a link you provide as you have gently caressed my curiousiouty. ![]() |
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:57 PM
Chemisse (30,514 posts)
24. Locking
This forum is for discussing the presidential election.
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