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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:12 AM Oct 2016

I think Hillary needs to let Trump ruin himself and concentrate on a positive agenda

Just struck me wrong - the clips today of a rally with all the "Love Trumps Hate" signs juxtaposed with Trump bashing.

Trump is the best one at Anti-Trump

Keep the good ads of his own crazy words and start concentrating on
what they say the undecideds want - a clear positive message of issues

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I think Hillary needs to let Trump ruin himself and concentrate on a positive agenda (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 OP
I think she's been tackling this election from both perspectives! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #1
She should continue to call him Donald, he hates that. Stellar Oct 2016 #2
That's a good point underpants Oct 2016 #5
LOL, I'm sure she's taking good notes. Stellar Oct 2016 #6
And when the time is right in the Town Hall (or Debate), she should avebury Oct 2016 #14
LOL! I don't think she'll get a chance to say much of anything...he talks a mile a minute. Stellar Oct 2016 #15
If Trump were his own worst enemy he wouldn't be the nominee. grossproffit Oct 2016 #3
But, you have to remember the pool of deplorables who elected him. And, the Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #8
I agree. People want to vote FOR someone underpants Oct 2016 #4
I think she should do both - because it keeps Trump from staying on message womanofthehills Oct 2016 #7
Yes, and they say we are only after a small slice of people - but enough to Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #10
She's handling it right. Adrahil Oct 2016 #9
The thing is the media only picks up on the Trump bashing for their clips. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #11
So? She wouldn't get any air time otherwise. Adrahil Oct 2016 #12
Negativity is a negative not a positive Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #13
Not sure it is.... Adrahil Oct 2016 #17
Yup..but you and I aren't the audience she's vying for. time to switch. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #19
Don't agree. Adrahil Oct 2016 #20
Right...but I think they have to show the other side - just for fair play (appearance Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #23
I agree. The debates actually allow people to hear FROM her underpants Oct 2016 #16
Totally agree !! I just thought - man - what a clear mind - if I had just Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #18
Why change directions when you're riding a current? Curtland1015 Oct 2016 #21
The trouble is - that we've had a great couple weeks of Trump imploding. Coupled Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #24
I think Hillary is perfectly capable of balancing her campaign. MineralMan Oct 2016 #22

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
2. She should continue to call him Donald, he hates that.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:24 AM
Oct 2016

Donald has everyone else calling him MR Trump, as though he's grown.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
14. And when the time is right in the Town Hall (or Debate), she should
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:08 AM
Oct 2016

say Please Proceed.

Everyone who watched the famous debate with President Obama and Romney will immediately recognize it as code for "Hey folks, he is really getting ready to go over the rails."

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
15. LOL! I don't think she'll get a chance to say much of anything...he talks a mile a minute.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:11 AM
Oct 2016

and that's how he gets himself into trouble.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. But, you have to remember the pool of deplorables who elected him. And, the
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:56 AM
Oct 2016

ineptitude (or maybe the shock) of the people who ran against him. Hopefully that pool of people is finite.

underpants

(182,631 posts)
4. I agree. People want to vote FOR someone
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:34 AM
Oct 2016

Last edited Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Positive positive positive
Trump can't help himself so don't worry about him. Let him flail around.

The scone debate will be interesting - it's a town hall. Hillary needs to connect with the questioner and then move out from there to the camera. This format is tough for Trump - he doesn't connect well (he screams from a podium), he needs crowd feedback to fill in for his complete lack of substance, he has to be really careful not to look like he's trying to intimidate her.

He's also desperate. When you get a wild animal caged step away and let it go.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
7. I think she should do both - because it keeps Trump from staying on message
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:54 AM
Oct 2016

He has to have the last sick word

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Yes, and they say we are only after a small slice of people - but enough to
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

swing it. It will also motivate those who already support her to GOTV

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. She's handling it right.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:57 AM
Oct 2016

She has been giving positive policy statements. That gets you a 30 second mention on the news. She needs to keep giving policy addresses, but pepper them with reminder why Herr Drumpf is unsuitable.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. So? She wouldn't get any air time otherwise.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:01 AM
Oct 2016

Sorry to say, but a positive message gets NO Play this cycle. We have to deal with that reality.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
17. Not sure it is....
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:22 AM
Oct 2016

And personally, I don't consider it "negativity" considering how she's handled it. She's been graceful and direct. The post-debate surge is evidence that exposing this man for what he is makes a difference. We would mever have had this week of self-destruction by Trump if HRC hadn't mentioned his cruelty to Ms. Machado.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
20. Don't agree.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:31 AM
Oct 2016

I wish it weren't true. I'm frustarted with it, but it is what it is. Her policy speeches will barely get a mention. They are barely mentioned now. And we cannot cede the airways completely to Drumpf.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. Right...but I think they have to show the other side - just for fair play (appearance
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:49 AM
Oct 2016

of it). If they have to show something - they will look for a trashing statement. Don't give them one.

Maybe we can meet in the middle. When he talks/acts crazy - go high. When he listens to KA one day and goes high - go low

I really didn't think much about this subject before - if I hadn't seen the stark image of her trashing with the signs Love Trumps Hate. It looked bad. If I was undecided, I would think, OK, she's preaching love and not acting loving.

Also, read that that is the prime roadblock for undecideds - they want to hear all positive policy.

underpants

(182,631 posts)
16. I agree. The debates actually allow people to hear FROM her
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:17 AM
Oct 2016

not about her.

She is really impressive. Maybe not touchy-feely but she is sharp as a tack and people get that once they get to hear and see her.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
18. Totally agree !! I just thought - man - what a clear mind - if I had just
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:26 AM
Oct 2016

gone through pneumonia I'd be looking around saying "UHHHH where am I ?"

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
21. Why change directions when you're riding a current?
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:44 AM
Oct 2016

She's BY FAR the better candidate. WE know that. We love her (most of us anyway...). But that's us.

Both times HRC has surged ahead in the polls were less about what she said (though she was great in the debate), but more about ridiculous things Trump did. Keeping the focus on him has done nothing but help our side.

It was the blank space in between, only the matter of a couple of weeks ago, when she WAS talking policy but Trump hadn't done anything particularly dumb lately, that the polls looked DANGEROUSLY close and were moving even closer.

The media is controlling the narrative and her policy talk is never going to spur the media to action, but Trump's latest stupid goof WILL. Her team is smart to egg that on.

Certainly, put your policy specifics out there. But our biggest trump card is still... *ahem*... Trump.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. The trouble is - that we've had a great couple weeks of Trump imploding. Coupled
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:52 AM
Oct 2016

with Clinton being so knowledgeable, sane, and in command at the debate. Who knows how long that will last.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
22. I think Hillary is perfectly capable of balancing her campaign.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:59 AM
Oct 2016

She has excellent advisers, and her own sense of what to do is just fine. She has been focusing on the positive, but there's no reason to let Trump walk all over her in debate situations. She did fine the first debate. If Trump ramps up his attacks, she will have a response ready for anything he might say, I'm sure.

I wouldn't presume to give her or her campaign any advice at all. They've got this.

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