Hillary Clinton comments on Bernie Sanders supporters in leaked recording

[oberliner]

A leaked audio recording of Hillary Clinton at a February fundraiser shows the Democratic presidential candidate had once painted a wide swath of Bernie Sanders supporters as idealists “new to politics completely” who are “living in their parents’ basement” -- though she stressed at the time the need to understand their frustrations with the economy.

“They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement,” Clinton says in the audio clip, first published by the Washington Free Beacon earlier this week. “They feel that they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future.

“That is a mindset that is really affecting their politics,” she noted, speaking to donors at a private event in McLean, Virginia. “If you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have much of a ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe -- just maybe -- you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-comments-on-bernie-sanders-supporters-in-leaked-recording/

Who exactly is leaking this stuff and what else are they sitting on?

[Zynx]

1. That's not exactly damaging.

If people are offended by that, we may as well lose because the country's not worth governing.

[oberliner]

2. The disturbing part is the idea of "hacked audio"

Who is doing the hacking? And are they going to release anything that is actually damaging later on?

[brush]

4. Pretty accurate assessment of many if you ask me.

[Skoods]

3. Everything she said was true and none of it was disparaging.

But, just wait for the next debate for Trumpy to twist those words.

[GulfCoast66]

110. When you say us...

Who do you mean? Democrats, progressives, liberals?

Because when I post on DU I normally use the collective term 'we' since we all support the same candidate, right?

[emulatorloo]

5. Look, she's very empathetic and genuine in the recording. Please stop spinning this negatively

Isn't it true that lots of people have been forced to move back home with parents because of the job market? I have young relatives in exactly that situation.

You cherry pick one phrase and attempt to twist the entire meaning into an attack.

IMHO You are WILLFULLY MISINTERPRETING everything she said to spin something positive into something egregious.

Kinda like something a lying Trump surrogate would do.

Of course I know you aren't a Trump surrogate, but IMHO you are using similar tactics.

I really wish you would stop doing this

[oberliner]

15. Huh?

There is no negative spin being presented here.

I just don't like the idea that there is someone out there hacking audio and trying to use it to impact the HRC campaign negatively.

The fact that this sort of thing is now considered normal (hacked audio, hacked emails) is pretty chilling.

[JRLeft]

74. Did you feel that way, when it happened to Mitt Romney?

I was happy when Romney was exposed, but the audio isn't too bad.

[oberliner]

81. I'm not crazy about the concept of hacking

Even if done in the service of a good political cause.

[JRLeft]

92. You didn't answer the question, because not one poster on this site complained about it.

[oberliner]

97. How did Romney's video get out?

Was there hacking involved or did someone just leak it to the press?

I think there is a not insignificant difference.

[JRLeft]

99. It was leaked, but it was a secret recording just as bad. I still don't give a fuck it's one of the

reasons he lost.

[oberliner]

101. I don't think that is just as bad

I think the idea of outside forces, possibly Russia hackers, breaking into people's emails and whatnot is worse than someone leaking a video of a private event.

But I do take your point.

[JRLeft]

103. Do you have evidence that there are Russian hackers? I'm still waiting on evidence.

[oberliner]

104. Russian Hackers Targeted Nearly Half of States' Voter Registration Systems, Successfully Infiltrated

Nearly half of the states in the U.S. have recently had their voter registration systems targeted by foreign hackers, and four of those systems have successfully been breached, sources tell ABC News.

That amount of targeting and actual infiltration into state election-related systems is significantly larger than the U.S. government has been willing to acknowledge.

Hackers working on behalf of the Russian government are suspected in the onslaught against more than 20 state election systems, according to sources with knowledge of the matter.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/russian-hackers-targeted-half-states-voter-registration-systems/story?id=42435822

Spy Agency Consensus Grows That Russia Hacked D.N.C.

WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have told the White House they now have “high confidence” that the Russian government was behind the theft of emails and documents from the Democratic National Committee, according to federal officials who have been briefed on the evidence.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/us/politics/spy-agency-consensus-grows-that-russia-hacked-dnc.html

It just seems like a lot of evidence has been pointing in that direction lately.

[mercuryblues]

107. Romney wasn't

hacked. Someone there recorded his 47% speech and sent it to the press.

[mythology]

111. By what definition is this hacking?

It's an audio recording. Yes the Washington Free Beacon is taking a line out of context, but that's because they're the Washington Free Beacon. This is a non-story.

[oberliner]

116. A HRC staffer's email was hacked

The comments were posted late Friday by the conservative website Washington Free Beacon, which says it obtained the audio from a Clinton campaign staffer's hacked email.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/politics/hillary-clinton-millennial-voters-audio-bernie-sanders/

[MyNameIsKhan]

29. Only breitbart has this headlines

[emulatorloo]

88. CNN and Politico too. Check out all the threads

[betsuni]

77. +1

[scheming daemons]

6. a leaked audio that reflects WELL on Hillary?

if this is what theyre leaking, i hope they leak some more.

[JCanete]

115. Yeah, its pretty ridiculous to call this a leak. This is a promo.

[unitedwethrive]

7. She made some good points. My millenial daughter is living in our basement...

while saving up for a down payment on a house. Every generation is idealistic...heck I toyed with voting for Gary Hart once upon a time.

[RandySF]

8. Basement?

Yes. I spent time in the basement while I was getting on my feet after college.

[Zynx]

14. Very much her point. That causes people to be economically frustrated.

[bmstee01]

40. I was upstairs, but still home. I'm not offended

[RBInMaine]

65. When I first got married we lived in our in-laws' basement. Partially finished, it was ok. :-)

[meadowlark5]

9. Maybe she should have said "living at home"

Because there are many 20 somethings and maybe early 30 somethings that are or have recently had to live at home for a time to get on their feet. Living in their parents' basement does hold a bit of a derogatory connotation because it is used by comedians and anyone who wants to insult someone for not being driven and successful. Other than that, I think what she said sounds more understanding of the struggles to leave college and become successful right out of the gate like generations before them may have been able to do.

Maybe if the current workforce had pensions and decent retirement benefits to allow them to retire in their early to mid sixties instead of working till they die because they can't afford to retire - then maybe there would be more jobs consistently available to this generation of workers.

[Mamajami]

41. Most basement these days are quite nice...if they are not built into man-caves like

my brother's. The man-cave is nice to but kind of dreary.

[meadowlark5]

52. I agree

And frankly, I didn't think anything at all about what Hillary said. I'm just pointing out that saying someone lives in their parents' basement is usually said in a disparaging way or by a comedian. It just gives the trump surrogates something to spin negatively, as usual.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

10. So she said young college graduates have to move back in with their parents and aren't doing as well

as they want to and that impacts their views. It's not intended as any kind of insult...it's just discussing why one group of supporters are wanting a revolution in politics.

[oberliner]

21. The comments themselves seem innocuous

The part that is disturbing is that someone hacked the audio of a private conversation and put it out there in an attempt to impact the campaign.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

38. There was a mole at the fundraiser

Probably just recorded it using their cell phone or something.

[oberliner]

44. The article refers to a "hack"

Which would be different.

[Grassy Knoll]

11. What a Tragedy

[oberliner]

19. The tragic part is that emails and private conversations can be so easily hacked

And that someone is actively doing so in order to impact this campaign.

From the Colin Powell emails to this leaked audio - it's messed up.

[Grassy Knoll]

25. Leaked to Freeper Free Beacon

Not Hacked.

[oberliner]

45. The article says "hacked audio"

Maybe I am misunderstanding what that means.

[Grassy Knoll]

49. Your Headline Says "Leaked"

[oberliner]

50. The audio was hacked and then leaked

At least according to CNN:

"The comments were posted late Friday by the conservative website Washington Free Beacon, which says it obtained the audio from a Clinton campaign staffer's hacked email."

[Grassy Knoll]

59. How Do You Get Audio From a Hacked email?

[oberliner]

63. Emails with audio attachments?

Isn't that what Wikileaks posted with those DNC hacked voicemails?

[Grassy Knoll]

67. Now You Did It, I Can't Stop Laughing

[oberliner]

69. What do you mean?

The articles I read on this topic say that the audio came from a hack of an email of an HRC staffer.

Politico:

Hacked audio of a conversation between Hillary Clinton and donors during a February fundraising event...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997#ixzz4Lsw7zpAk

...which says it obtained the audio from a Clinton campaign staffer's hacked email.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/politics/hillary-clinton-millennial-voters-audio-bernie-sanders/

(CNN)

Maybe this is wrong, but that's how it is being reported.

[muriel_volestrangler]

120. Someone records it, for distribution to supporters who can't make the meeting

It's sent via email, and someone later hacked the email.

Where does the 'laughing' come in?

[oberliner]

134. Source for last week's "hacked Clinton audio" story was Russian influence op DCLeaks

Thomas Rid ‏@RidT 9h9 hours ago City of London, London
Confirmed: source for last week's "hacked Clinton audio" story in NYT/Free Beacon was Russian influence op DCLeaks

"The email containing the audio file was one of more than 13K messages to and from Mellul's personal Gmail account"

"DCLeaks provided POLITICO with the [exclusive?] passwords to access two new caches of emails" on Friday @ericgeller

https://twitter.com/RidT

[Marthe48]

12. The quotes are tactful

about a rough situation.

[nolabear]

13. It could easily be a statement of sympathy, not scorn.

If it's reported as scorn that says more about the leaker than her.

[oberliner]

17. The comments seem fine to me

I don't like the idea, though, of people hacking audio from private conversations.

[emulatorloo]

20. She's very empathetic in the recording

Of course, some folks are going to take a phrase out of context. Twist it into something she did not mean, and try to manufacture outrage.

[Kathy M]

66. Agree .

[riversedge]

16. It is all over twitter--the Trump folks are trying to set a wedge between Hillary supporters and

sanders supporters--former and current. It is despicable. Nothing wrong with those quotes.

[oberliner]

18. Nothing wrong with the quotes - but who hacked the audio?

Who or what is behind such hacks? And are they sitting on other things that might actually be damaging?

[emulatorloo]

22. Exactly. Trump crowd lying like they always do. Stir the pot, divide and conquer

On Edit: apparently that ridiculous Intercept site is trying to gin up outrage among Sanders primary supporters (like me) about this. Ugh.

[tblue37]

23. I was for Bernie but I don't find that comment offensive--and it does point to

a real problem young people are having to deal with.

[oberliner]

51. I don't find it offensive either

I just don't like the idea of people hacking audio and leaking it to the press.

[tirebiter]

24. #basementdwellers — The actual words and spin on Hillary Clinton’s remarks about Bernie Sanders supp

https://www.yahoo.com/news/basementdwellers-the-actual-words-and-spin-on-hillary-clintons-remarks-about-bernie-sanders-supporters-205428290.html

Here was Clinton’s take on why so many young voters were drifting toward Sanders during the Democratic primary:

“Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession and they are living in their parents’ basement. They feel they got their education, and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves, and they don’t see much of a future,” Clinton said. “I met with a group of young black millennials today, and, you know, one of the young women said, ‘You know, none of us feel like we have the job that we should have gotten out of college, and we don’t believe the job market is going to give us much of a chance.’”

“So that is a mindset that is really affecting their politics, and so if you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista or, you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe — just maybe — you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing. So I think we should all be really understanding of that and should try to do the best we can not to be, you know, a wet blanket on idealism — you want people to be idealistic; you want them to set big goals — but to take what we can achieve now and try to present them as bigger goals.”

[Arazi]

26. Been #1 or #2 on twitter all day. Ouch

Clearly a lot of people didn't read this as empathetic from the tweets

[Demsrule86]

35. Trump supporters ...big deal.

My kids heard and said ...'she gets it.

[RBInMaine]

61. Calm down. It's Trump people.

[upaloopa]

27. Hillary understands what life is like for most people.

[Kaleva]

28. Seems fine to me.

And it's true that many young people who graduate from college with a degree ended up working low paying jobs and live with their parents. Not because they want to or are lazy but because of the lack of economic opportunities. The status quo failed them so it's natural for them to be attracted to a (peaceful) political revolution.

Trying to twist this into saying Hillary was mocking Bernie supporters belongs more in the Creative Speculation group then in GD.

[Demsrule86]

34. Trump must be desperate.

This will help get the message out to millennials that Hillary Clinton understands their frustrations and wants to help.

[blm]

31. I'm a Bernie voter and I think she sounds like she's understanding why instead of condemning or

mocking us for it. There is no mockery or disdain in her voice.

[oberliner]

42. Agreed

It's the hacking of the audio part that disturbs me.

[Charles Bukowski]

32. It takes strong mental gymnastics to twist Clinton's

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words as mockery. She's clearly empathizing with these segment of voters.

[Demsrule86]

33. How is that damaging...lots of empathy.

These kids have had it rough...I have two kids in college and it is tough these days.

[Skoods]

36. CNN HEADLINE FOR THIS STORY IS SO FUCKING MISLEADING AND WRONG

"Sanders supporters 'bought into a false promise,' Clinton says"

Right on their front page.

PATHETIC ATTENTION GRABBING BS.

[pansypoo53219]

37. oct surprise. be prepared.

[oberliner]

55. What do you think is coming?

I agree that they will try something.

[ismnotwasm]

39. The Washington Free Beacon seems to be the culprit

Stirring up shit

[oberliner]

43. But who was the hacker?

Russia related maybe?

[Proud liberal 80]

56. Nope

Free Beacon didn't care about that part. They focused on the nuclear piece of the speech.


It was then picked up by the Intercept and they were concerned about her being the Center comments.

Politico then picked it up and said she was mocking Sanders' supporters

That is when KellyAnne Conway made it an issue. So Politico's misleading headline caused this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/01/republicans-latch-onto-audio-of-clinton-critiquing-sanderss-revolution-but-senators-team-pushes-back/

[oberliner]

58. Still unclear who hacked the audio in the first place

Or if there are even any leads.

[oberliner]

46. Note that this audio was "hacked" from a private email

According to CNN:

"...it obtained the audio from a Clinton campaign staffer's hacked email"

So this was not the case of just a leaked video.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

47. How dare she be empathetic? We should punish

Her for it

[oberliner]

48. It's ridiculous that people think this reflects negatively on her

But the idea that HRC campaign staffers are having their emails hacked and private audio leaked is disturbing.

[grossproffit]

53. You seem to relish in posting these types of articles.

[oberliner]

54. What types?

Not sure what you mean by that.

I definitely think the issue of these kinds of hacks is one that ought not to be ignored.

It's amazing how we seem to take it for granted these days that private communications and conversations (to say nothing of photos, banking information, etc) can be so easily hacked and disseminated.

[obamanut2012]

71. You betcha they do

[oberliner]

98. What does this comment mean?

Can you elaborate?

[obamanut2012]

123. no

[oberliner]

124. OK

Just thought I'd reach out.

All the best!

[whistler162]

57. Actually my mother turned the house over to

me and my brothers. But, hey the basement is cooler in summer and I am out of her way.

[MFM008]

60. does anyone think

if they can HACK this stuff they might be able to ALTER it as well.
Or should we just believe everything foreign hackers put out there to get the maggot elected?

[RBInMaine]

62. There's nothing in this one to alter. It's mainly a statement of empathy. Good grief.

[oberliner]

64. But hacked content could be altered

I believe some of the Wikileaks stuff was shown to have possibly been altered.

Not relevant for this particular hack, but maybe for others in the future?

[jodymarie aimee]

68. funny, the word that jumped out at me is idealist

We used it often in 1969 Berkeley. I am 65 and still proud to be one. Period.

[Kathy M]

70. nothing wrong with Hillary 's comments

Heck I was another one who lived at home till I was 30 and that was over 20 years ago .

If we go back a little bit further there were many multi generations living in same house , then and now .

One thing that seems to be different is the" feeding off of " one another in social media when someone who may be young and impressionable would feed into revolution ( thinking yea pretty cool ) and not think of consequences and future .

[RBInMaine]

73. BULLSHIT!! Why are you saying this? Trolling are you? This was not at all "disparaging." Give us a

break. Bernie Sanders STRONGLY supports Hillary Clinton, and every single person who claims to be a Bernie Progressive should too because it will either be Hillary or an evil unqualified menace called Trump. Any, and I mean ANY, Bernie supporter who now isn't voting or who is supporting a third party person is by no means any kind of real progressive because progressive means PROGRESS. It mean reality. It doesn't mean off-the-planet purity. Or if anyone is actually voting for that goofball Libertarian Johnson, then they are not only UNpure but in another universe.

[aikoaiko]

75. You have a difficult time accepting that someone could be critical of HRC and still vote for her

You should expand what you think is possible.

[RBInMaine]

78. What she said was not disparaging. Did you see the whole quote? What is "disparaging"?

[bobbobbins01]

109. As a millennial Bernie supporter, I found this part disparaging

"whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel."

[bigdarryl]

76. The bottom line in all this is for democrats to STOP going

To fundraisers and in the future raise money like Sanders did in the primary

[GulfCoast66]

136. And how did that work out?

It take money to win. Always has, always will.

And popular positons and candidates and bring funding.

[cwydro]

79. I don't see a problem with what she said.

Why are you concerned?

[betsuni]

80. The concern is about sitting on something and leaking and hacking.

I think, it's kind of vague.

[oberliner]

82. The hacking of HRC staffer emails and audio

Is what concerns me.

And that there might be something else that these hackers are sitting on and waiting to leak.

[cwydro]

83. So you think she might have said something damaging to her campaign?

I don't.

[oberliner]

84. Not her, necessarily

But possibly someone on her team, or one of her supporters could have conceivably said something that might be spun in a way that could hurt her with some subset of voters.

Hopefully not.

The more general concept of how easy it seems to be for things to be hacked and disseminated is what really alarms me.

It clearly appears that there is an organized campaign by hackers, perhaps with the support of elements in Russia, who are attempting to manipulate or at the very least influence the election.

[stevenleser]

85. From what I can gather only Trump supporters and JPR types are pushing the out of context

Interpretation.

[oberliner]

86. I wish more people were talking about the hacking angle

And the fact that there seem to be outside actors, possibly connected to Russia, who are attempting to influence the election via hacking and leaking of private emails and audio.

[stevenleser]

93. If people are going to talk about this it should be about how the Intercept

Pushed an out of context meme.

That should permanently discredit them as liars.

[oberliner]

95. The idea of Russian hackers attempting to influence the US Presidential election

is a more important topic than whether or not "the Intercept" should be discredited, in my opinion.

[stevenleser]

96. Nope it's not more important because that is already a story.

That is a subtext to this story. The bigger issue is the lying by the Intercept, which should cast doubt on everything they publish and everything anyone working there has ever written.

[oberliner]

100. Pretty sure that 99 percent of Americans don't know what "the Intercept" is

It's a web site that's existed for less than 3 years.

[Arazi]

87. Except of course, it's #1 on twitter

I'm 100% for Hillary but let's not bury our heads in the sand

[stevenleser]

90. No "except". Trump has support of 40% of the country. That's more than enough to

... get a hashtag trending on Twitter.

The question is whether anyone else is buying into it. I don't see evidence that they are.

[Arazi]

91. Lol, ok. Keep your head in the sand

[stevenleser]

94. Nope, I'm an evidence based person. I don't panic easily. nt

[Loki Liesmith]

102. Hasn't been in top ten for hours

Trump taxes now will now rule the weekend.

[Demsrule86]

105. It is bullshit

And as the story gets out...it makes Hillary look better...those who are upset about this...I listened want to be upset either because they are Trump voters or third party fools...either way it won't hurt her...and with Trump's taxes making it to the New York Times, I doubt it will even be talked about much...which is too bad really...she wound very concerned and empathetic except to those who don't like her...so why the negativity?

[oberliner]

106. The hacking of HRC staffer emails and audio is the problem

I don't get how this sort of behavior is considered so normalized that it barely even raises any ire.

HRC staffers are having their emails hacked and the contents sent to RW websites.

[riversedge]

89. Clinton camp statement on leaked audio of Clinton discussing young Sanders supporters.

Trump supporters--and the die hard sanders supports are pushing it on twitter!!



Alex Seitz-Wald ‏@aseitzwald 4h4 hours ago

Clinton camp statement on leaked audio of Clinton discussing young Sanders supporters. pic.twitter.com/s9Yy24Jl2T

[azmom]

133. That is just beautiful.

We are going to get the milleneals now!!!

[AgadorSparticus]

112. I sense butthurt but, I don't see where she said anything wrong.

It is true what she says. Data shows more millenials staying at home with their parents than at any other time except for 1940.

"In 2014, for the first time in more than 130 years, adults ages 18 to 34 were slightly more likely to be living in their parents’ home than they were to be living with a spouse or partner in their own household. 1

This turn of events is fueled primarily by the dramatic drop in the share of young Americans who are choosing to settle down romantically before age 35."

--SNIP

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/05/24/for-first-time-in-modern-era-living-with-parents-edges-out-other-living-arrangements-for-18-to-34-year-olds/

[radius777]

113. ratmucking to divide dems and and cut-off h's attempt to

bring millennials back into the D column and reassemble the obama coalition.

hack was probably by the russians, assange (russian stooge), gop operatives, trump supporters, etc.

sanders has already issued a statement saying the comments were ok, especially when one reads the entire conversation, clearly she was warning people not to 'not throw a wet blanket' on millennials' idealism, to be empathetic to their struggles re the great recession.

the media is taking the comment out of context for clickbait/ratings/ratmucking reasons.

only hillary haters, trumpers and berniebusters (none of whom would vote for her anyway) will try to play the faux outrage angle.

[Third Doctor]

114. I've read and it does not bother me at all.

She describes my plight very well and at least I know that she gets it. I don't agree on everything that she said but I already know that she is to the right of me on certain issues. So is the POTUS. This will mainly anger people that have no intention of voting for her and the rw nuts that support Trump. I'm saying this as a Sanders supporter.

[oberliner]

119. But does the fact that an HRC staffer had their email hacked bother you?

That is what this story should be focusing on in my opinion.

Someone or some group seems to be deliberately attempting to interfere with the election via hacking.

[mindfulNJ]

117. If you are insulted by those remarks

you are looking to be insulted, and I was a Bernie supporter.

[oberliner]

118. The story should be the hack, not the remarks themselves

I don't get how it's considered no big deal anymore when hackers attempt to interfere with the election.

[Warren DeMontague]

121. She said that they are unhappy with current economic reality

Thats what the "basement" thing is about.

This is a notcha, not a gotcha.

[oberliner]

122. Agreed

Glad to see that the comments themselves are getting no traction whatsoever.

More disturbing, though, is the fact that HRC staffers are being hacked by an unknown persons/entities who are leaking those hacks to right wing websites.

[Warren DeMontague]

125. Well unless I'm misunderstanding the story, this was someone recording a private speech, a la Romney

I mean, anyone with a digital recorder in their pocket can pull that off, it's not really "hacking".

And an astute politician; as Hillary no doubt is- is aware of that possibility, even in a so-called private gathering.

[oberliner]

126. You are misunderstanding the story

Clinton gives frank take on Sanders supporters in audio from hacked email

The comments were posted late Friday by the conservative website Washington Free Beacon, which says it obtained the audio from a Clinton campaign staffer's hacked email. The recording comes to light as Clinton has emphasized reaching out to millennials in an effort to attract Sanders supporters to her campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/politics/hillary-clinton-millennial-voters-audio-bernie-sanders/

[Warren DeMontague]

127. I stand corrected!

derp.

[oberliner]

128. No problem

That part seems to have been buried in many of the articles about this audio.

In any case, it's a strange world we live in when the hacking of a campaign staffer's email is essentially seen as not a particularly big deal.

[Warren DeMontague]

129. It's a strange world when the despot who runs Russia is doing it to influence the election.

Strange, indeed.

[oberliner]

130. And the Republicans think that is just fine and dandy

It is literally bizarro world.

[JonLP24]

131. I don't have much of a problem with that

There are some generalizations but seriously I could find a bigger bone to pick.

Signed a Bernie Sanders supporter. It certainly had an affect on her policy as she favors publicly taxing the wealthy and providing college opportunities.

[oberliner]

132. Agreed

The problem, as I've mentioned many times on this thread, is the fact that an HRC staffer had their email hacked, and that hackers seem to be attempting to influence our elections.

[oberliner]

135. Turns out the hackers were Russian

Russia-linked site targets Clinton campaign, State Department in latest leak

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/russia-hackers-clinton-campaign-state-department-228976#ixzz4Lzf2tdBb