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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:33 PM Oct 2016

"I've come to admire Hillary Clinton. What on earth happened?"

Many progressives have been on a similar journey. Hillary is no longer the lesser of two evils -- she's admired for her strength, her perseverance, and her passion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ive-come-to-admire-hillary-clinton-what-on-earth-happened/2016/09/30/4a3a92a8-85c3-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html?utm_term=.b47d1cc3b609

Danielle Allen is a political theorist at Harvard University and a contributing columnist for The Post.

I admire Hillary Clinton. This is new for me. I have come to admire her only over the past year. Before Monday’s debate, she had already sealed the deal. But everything I have come to see was on display that evening: intelligence, fortitude, self-control, discipline, strength and grace.

Let me share my journey.

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Yet somehow between Clinton’s 2015 campaign announcement and the present, I’ve come to admire her. What on earth happened? Call me crazy, but I read her emails. Or at least, I read as many of them as I could. You try it. It’s no small task. And what blazes out of those emails above all is a combination of discipline and dedication to the U.S. cause. Then I started listening to her town-hall events. The discipline and dedication were richly in evidence there, too.

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When Clinton in May changed her slogan to “Stronger Together,” I believe she finally made the United States itself her calling. She had identified our fundamental problem and publicly committed herself to working to solve it. We need to build a connected society on these shores, one in which — for all that we enjoy the pleasure of our own social groups — we also maximize ties across boundaries of difference. Achieving such a connected society is a necessary part of solving all of our other problems — especially after the damage to our social fabric brought about by this year’s political campaign and many acts of public violence. Clinton is simply right: We will be stronger together. A connected society is the necessary foundation for strength in a democracy.

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But because I have come to admire her, I will also vote for Clinton in November with enthusiasm and pleasure. I will even consider it a privilege to do so.

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"I've come to admire Hillary Clinton. What on earth happened?" (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2016 OP
The more you hear, the more you understand her liberal N proud Oct 2016 #1
Most of the country does not have an affinity for her. JRLeft Oct 2016 #5
Follow the money? liberal N proud Oct 2016 #6
I'm backing her to block Trump and the Supreme Court. JRLeft Oct 2016 #7
No, I do not think that way liberal N proud Oct 2016 #10
I think for myself, I don't watch any of the corporate tabloid news JRLeft Oct 2016 #11
I have followed the Clintons since 1980, whatva journey, she a progressive who Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #2
KICK fleabiscuit Oct 2016 #3
It takes a village relayerbob Oct 2016 #4
Here's a link to a similar statement. LAS14 Oct 2016 #8
KnR sheshe2 Oct 2016 #9
I'm glad I feel the way I felt about her in 1993. rusty quoin Oct 2016 #12
K&R Kathy M Oct 2016 #13
She knows the simple math, we are all inter-related, we share the same ancestors, we are family, Coyotl Oct 2016 #14
I have to say, she's won me over. Avalux Oct 2016 #15
K&R AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #16
Be sure to watch the video embedded in the article. LAS14 Oct 2016 #17
KnR Hekate Oct 2016 #18
She keeps going. She doesn't quit. joshcryer Oct 2016 #19
Right. The whole country has evolved. Why shouldn't she? She's human, like everyone else. n/t pnwmom Oct 2016 #20
"Evolving" is more of a primary talking point anyway. joshcryer Oct 2016 #21

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. The more you hear, the more you understand her
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:36 PM
Oct 2016

I think many wouldn't even take the time to listen to what she was saying. And she has evolved somewhat which is what you would want in a leader.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
5. Most of the country does not have an affinity for her.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:44 PM
Oct 2016

I will say this, she's not evil but our ideologies aren't aligned. She has a lot good ideas and awful ones but the only person I agree with 100% of the time is myself.

I follow the money she may have great intentions but she will provide access to her biggest donors and that is why I will vote for her but won't expect anything from her.

I rather have someone who won't fuck things up aka no change than someone who wants to destroy the planet.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
6. Follow the money?
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:50 PM
Oct 2016

Access to biggest doners?

I only hear that stuff from those who are looking for a reason to not support her. The trust issue is starting to fall apart on many levels so the naysayers are clinging to the biggest doners have access meme.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
7. I'm backing her to block Trump and the Supreme Court.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:53 PM
Oct 2016

You seem to have the idea that every one who's voting for her likes her. I don't, but she still has my vote. I bet you she doesn't care if I believe her as long my absentee vote is cast in her favor.

The donor part is real and if you believe it isn't then it isn't true for anyone.

Koch money has no impact it's all a myth.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
10. No, I do not think that way
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:29 PM
Oct 2016

Everyone is entitled to their own views, as long as they are your views and not something that you were told to believe by some talking head.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
11. I think for myself, I don't watch any of the corporate tabloid news
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:36 PM
Oct 2016

shows full of propaganda like Fox News, MSNBC, or CNN. I read on my own instead of watching trash TV.

Money in politics is a problem it's why you get toothless legislation with congress celebrating like they accomplished something.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. I have followed the Clintons since 1980, whatva journey, she a progressive who
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:38 PM
Oct 2016

Gets things done. She has advocated for women and children for a long time, she will continue.

LAS14

(13,781 posts)
8. Here's a link to a similar statement.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:01 PM
Oct 2016

This was first published in January of this year. I'm sure there are other such stories out there. I wish they'd all go public!

http://bluenationreview.com/i-was-a-hillary-hater-until-i-read-her-emails/

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
12. I'm glad I feel the way I felt about her in 1993.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:57 PM
Oct 2016

The 2008 election was hard because I preferred Obama. These primaries were less hard, though I backed Sanders. Now I am more impressed by her more than ever.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
14. She knows the simple math, we are all inter-related, we share the same ancestors, we are family,
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:46 PM
Oct 2016

and the world is a village.

2 parents, 4 grandparents,
8 great-grandparents,
16 great-great-grandparents,
32, 64, 128, 256,
512 great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents,
1,024 2,048 4,092 8,184 16,368
Fifteen generations ago 32,736 great, great..... grandparents.
Counting back, every generation twice as many ancestors.
Given 25 years per generation, 40 generations occur in 1000 years
... one trillion ancestors in the last 1000 years.

The One Trillion Principle

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
15. I have to say, she's won me over.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:59 PM
Oct 2016

I've never been in her corner until now. It's been happening gradually and that debate sealed the deal - I was PROUD to watch her handle that shitbag as she did, it was a victory for all women everywhere who have ever had to face the likes of Donald.

So yes - I can say I admire Hillary. It's come to that and I'm good with it.

LAS14

(13,781 posts)
17. Be sure to watch the video embedded in the article.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 09:35 PM
Oct 2016

I didn't realize there was a video the first time I looked. It's seven minutes. What inspired this WaPo staffer to produce the video? Is it a campaign video? Did she do it on her own? It's great!

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
19. She keeps going. She doesn't quit.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 03:40 AM
Oct 2016

And evolving on issues actually becomes something to admire for someone who just keeps going.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
21. "Evolving" is more of a primary talking point anyway.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 04:14 AM
Oct 2016

As if, for some reason, a politician going with the flow is a bad thing.

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