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Is Trump throwing the election? (Original Post) yellowcanine Oct 2016 OP
What you mean? Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #1
Deliberately trying to lose. yellowcanine Oct 2016 #3
That would imply he's capable of winning unblock Oct 2016 #2
he doesn't want to be president - he wants to tap into the wasteland of the GOP and use them as blm Oct 2016 #4
It looks to us as if he must be, but I think saltpoint Oct 2016 #5
No he wants to make money off being president. kimbutgar Oct 2016 #6
Throwing it? That would require strategy. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #7
i think if he knows he will lose, he'll find a way to get out before it happens sailfla Oct 2016 #8
I'm guessing Reince Preibus might saltpoint Oct 2016 #9
No, he is just a bad guy and a bad candidate. Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #10
Being President of the "free" world's unlimited $$ resources Iliyah Oct 2016 #11
He is a narcissist. He wants to be president. mucifer Oct 2016 #12
No. He's just a very bad candidate and man. Third Doctor Oct 2016 #13
He is milking the media attention BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #14
He wants to win Mz Pip Oct 2016 #15
If not then its time for the M$M to start calling him Palin level stupid, he's disaster uponit7771 Oct 2016 #16
Yet he's still relatively close in the polls UMTerp01 Oct 2016 #17
So true. He is closer than he should be. nt ScienceIsGood Oct 2016 #24
Worse, he's trying with all his might to win C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #18
No. He's not that smart. rock Oct 2016 #19
If he had changed tactics for the GE then maybe so, but nothing has changed pampango Oct 2016 #20
Not intentionally. n/t Lucinda Oct 2016 #21
No he is simply a "disaster" as a candidate (and human being) etherealtruth Oct 2016 #22
He is not that far behind. This is much closer than anyone expected early. n/t ScienceIsGood Oct 2016 #23
No, I don't think that's the case. herding cats Oct 2016 #25
Thought he might be running to insure a Democratic win Marthe48 Oct 2016 #26
No. He's such a narcissist that he thinks he's winning. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #27
No, his greatest fear in life is to be thought a LOSER. ginnyinWI Oct 2016 #28
Why would he throw the election? Wednesdays Oct 2016 #29
No. He is not that smart. Also we should not get overcconfident. clutterbox1830 Oct 2016 #30
No. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #31
A this point I think he knows he's stepped out of his dept but it's too late. It's all in Monk06 Oct 2016 #32
NO lillypaddle Oct 2016 #33
No, Trump is incompetent. UCmeNdc Oct 2016 #34
I know it's hard to reconcile, but he really is that inept Bucky Oct 2016 #35

blm

(113,040 posts)
4. he doesn't want to be president - he wants to tap into the wasteland of the GOP and use them as
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:26 PM
Oct 2016

an easy cash cow for the rest of his years. Trump TV

He knows there is a sucker born every minute and they are dying to spend their money on a charlatan that will tell them how smart they are. GOP the Party of Dumbass.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. It looks to us as if he must be, but I think
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:28 PM
Oct 2016

it looks to him as if he's gaining traction by slut-shaming Ms. Machado and otherwise acting like a jackass.

What most school kids would understand as aberrational behavior, Trump thinks is effective.

It's possible his campaign team has tried to set limits, but Trump clearly isn't interested in that, because he's as much of a jackass now than he ever was, and he was always a jackass.

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
6. No he wants to make money off being president.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:29 PM
Oct 2016

And his signature legislation will be repealing the estate tax on rich people.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
10. No, he is just a bad guy and a bad candidate.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:42 PM
Oct 2016

The campaign has revealed who he is...bigot and really a sick man.

BumRushDaShow

(128,779 posts)
14. He is milking the media attention
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:55 PM
Oct 2016

to keep his "Trump brand" out there. THAT is his goal. It's been a year long free ride to parlay his junk. The ones who are freaking out the most are his groupies who have staked everything they have on him so they can get choice positions in an administration - and mainly because he is who he is and what he is. He will never change his spots, and there's nothing they can do but watch in horror.

Mz Pip

(27,436 posts)
15. He wants to win
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:55 PM
Oct 2016

But he will settle for creating his own media empire with the help of Ailes and Bannon if he loses.

I doubt initially he thought he'd get this far but now that he has his ego wants it bigly.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
17. Yet he's still relatively close in the polls
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:56 PM
Oct 2016

Closer than he should be because of how divided this country is. He wasn't joking when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose supporters. They do not care about any of this. He's dog whistling taking America back to where Black and Brown people have less rights and less influence and most of his supporters want to preserve White supremacy and therefore it doesn't matter what he does. They will continue to support him and thus have him in the 40% + support range. Its ridiculous and he's already laid the seeds for rigging if Hillary wins so that its going to be even more divided going forward. This is really the worst campaign season ever.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
18. Worse, he's trying with all his might to win
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 03:27 PM
Oct 2016

Problem is he's an incompetent racist fool.

Not throwing it... blowing it.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
20. If he had changed tactics for the GE then maybe so, but nothing has changed
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 06:18 PM
Oct 2016

from his style during his successful republican primary.

He is convinced that 'Donald being Donald' is what people want. It worked with republicans. Why not with the whole country?

herding cats

(19,559 posts)
25. No, I don't think that's the case.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:12 PM
Oct 2016

You're looking at him as if he's a politician. Which he isn't. He wants to use the position of POTUS to make him legitimately the most famous businessman ever. In his mind, anyway.

He's a spoiled, adult child with a narcissistic personality who seems to believe he can win this because he's that good at manipulating people to get what he wants. He seems to thinks all he has to do is reel in the non voting crazy people out there he hasn't reached yet, and intimidate those who plan not to vote from going to the polls.

From my perspective it's terrifying so many Americans have responded positively to his hollow manipulative tactics, but that's just me.

Marthe48

(16,934 posts)
26. Thought he might be running to insure a Democratic win
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:17 PM
Oct 2016

but if Trump or whoever runs his business considered so much information would come to light, can't believe he would run and risk the exposure. If he has executives, accountants, a business hierarchy, they are either incompetent or unheeded. Trump doesn't seem to know there is a past, or audio and video recordings, public records, what research is, or that like all candidates who run, he will be scrutinized. He doesn't seem to realize that his sh*t smells.

I didn't remember that Trump has toyed with running for president in the past, I no longer believe he is throwing the election to the Dems. Not on purpose. I hope that all of this news about free rides, seeing a business advantage in the 2008 loss of family homes, spending money in Cuba while the embargo was in place, all the other advantage he took and got as an entitled businessman will force Republicans to reform. Fat chance.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
27. No. He's such a narcissist that he thinks he's winning.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:21 PM
Oct 2016

And his ego is so huge that he thinks he's smarter than everybody else and he's managing his campaign perfectly.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
28. No, his greatest fear in life is to be thought a LOSER.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:25 PM
Oct 2016

Right now he's doing all he knows how to do. He's a "one trick pony" capable of winning a primary but not a general election.

And when he loses, it will be the fault of someone else: crooked politicians, dishonest media, etc etc.

I only hope people will see through him, at long last.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
30. No. He is not that smart. Also we should not get overcconfident.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:44 PM
Oct 2016

Also with the polarization of the country and the media desperation to make this a contest, you should not be surprise if the race tightens again.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
31. No.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:54 PM
Oct 2016

No one runs for office planning to lose. At whatever level, and no matter how hopeless, candidates always hope to win.

And think a little bit about what would be involved and deliberately losing. Worse yet, if his plan in the first place were to lose, then winning the election would be his worst nightmare. Not that I think there's much of a chance of that.

He's simply not a politician, pure and simple. He does not understand just how the game is played. None of his advisors or staff have any experience running a campaign. He thinks it's simply another kind of reality show

People have been suggesting this for some time now, and it's just not true. To think this way is to not take his campaign seriously, which is what everyone was doing last summer -- thinking he and his candidacy was a joke -- and he certainly fooled us all. And now that he's the Republican nominee, it's even more important we take him seriously, realize he does want to win. We may just luck out thanks to his incompetence, but we have to think like Hillary is the one ten points behind and do everything possible to help her win.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
32. A this point I think he knows he's stepped out of his dept but it's too late. It's all in
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 11:59 PM
Oct 2016

Texas Holdem and he can't fold or take back the bet

When this is finished no bank or private financier will touch the Trump brand and he knows it

That is why he is acting so desperately and irrationally

He's looking at a bust out with a very weak hand

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
34. No, Trump is incompetent.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 05:56 AM
Oct 2016

It looks like he is throwing the election but incompetent people cannot manage their tasks. Trump is just in over his head.

Bucky

(53,987 posts)
35. I know it's hard to reconcile, but he really is that inept
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:13 AM
Oct 2016

it's like asking "Is that weiner dog trying to throw the race?" when in the middle of a wiener dog race one of them starts running in the wrong direction.

He doesn't want to lose the race, he's just a stupid wiener dog and he doesn't understand what is involved in running around the track.

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