2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPence might have won the debate, but Kaine was the only one who left with his dignity still intact
Mike Pence might have won the debate, but Tim Kaine was the only one who left with his dignity still intact.
Margaret, the problem I have with Donald Trump is that he actually believes his shit doesnt stink. And the problem I have with his supporters is that they are pretending nobody just stunk up the bathroom. Honey, have you seen these lunatics that keep going on TV to either defend or otherwise try to make sense out of the things he says? I have to wonder if they they can still look at themselves in the mirror these days. Of course, theres a good chance they no longer have a reflection. Now they are celebrating that Mike Pence can walk and chew gum at the same time. Bless his heart but Pence was so tied in knots that Im pretty sure he no longer knows whether to check his ass or scratch his watch at this point. He spent the whole night claiming that Donald Trump didnt say what we all have heard him say. If we learned anything at all from that debate its that Tim Kaine really likes being Hillarys running mate and Mike Pence has never met Donald Trump.
Donald is a dying breed, that one. He actually believes that a womans only value is her looks. He comes from that fading era when women stayed at home to have kids and clean house and once our figure was gone, we were at the mercy of a forgiving husband as to whether to keep us or not. Trump really believes this bullshit about women. When Hillary called him out about his insults, he didnt say it was a poor choice of words or that he had regrets. He said, in a Presidential debate, that Rosie was mean and she deserved it
and then he tweeted like a teenager all night that Miss Universe had indeed gotten fat.
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But back to the debate
Lets not forget that Mike Pence was supposed to be defending Trump
defending a man who made fun of a disabled person. The reporter Trump mimicked has a disability that limits the use of his arms and restricts his joints. Its called arthrogryposis and Trump actually mocked and made fun of his appearance in front of a crowd of supporters at one of his hillbilly rallies. Let me repeat that. Donald Trump, while running for President, made fun of a disabled person by mocking the way he looks. And Donald didnt just say it, he said it and acted it out in front of television cameras. Its no wonder Pence didnt attempt to defend his running mate. How does anyone continue to support this man?
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(people drumpfy has insulted--edit mine)
US Generals 652
African Americans 37 million
Population of Mexico 120 million
Disabled people worldwide 1 billion
Muslims 1.6 billion
Women (all weights) 3.5 billion
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We also learned that Mike Pence believes his religious beliefs should be turned into law so that women cant make their own religious decisions. And we learned that Mike Pence is clueless as to how many children are still waiting in foster care to be adopted (over 400,000) or that nearly 23,000 thousand kids age out of foster care every year in the United States alone.
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Sunny05
(865 posts)And I know what you're saying, many said Pence won -- at least on style. Over time, fewer are saying he outright won or won at all. Some (reporters, pundits, and various "regular people" on social media & online forums) say he won on style but otherwise lost due to lies. Still others think he lost, mainly because style means nothing given his near-constant lying throughout the debate.
Anyway, though, your point still stands. If anyone ever thought he won, that's ridiculous. I just added this post with the intention of encouraging you and all of us who feel the way you do. I am absolutely not arguing or critiquing your points.
Thank you! Take care!
niyad
(113,229 posts)I cannot claim any credit--this post is from the absolutely delightful margaret and helen.
mythology
(9,527 posts)He both arrived and left with exactly as much dignity a Trump toady ever has, that is none. If Pence had any dignity he wouldn't have signed on to be Trump's VP candidate. If Pence had any dignity, he wouldn't have tried to sneak through the religious bigotry law and then immediately run away from it. If he had any dignity, he wouldn't tell women they need to go through the risks and difficulties of pregnancies because he thinks adoption is morally better than abortion.