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CBC News. Reports Republicans are meeting tonight. (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2016 OP
They cannot have him on TV tomorrow night representing the party. It's unthinkable. oioioi Oct 2016 #1
That is tough shit. They can not force Donnie Groper to withdraw from the debate. It is up to him. RBInMaine Oct 2016 #2
He will take a deal. It's over. oioioi Oct 2016 #3
What deal? If he drops out he will be ruined completely Foggyhill Oct 2016 #5
He is the party. Scruffy1 Oct 2016 #8
Wrong. He has declared he is IN and he will not go down with the ship. He won't go there. Period. RBInMaine Oct 2016 #13
Stop acting like you know what's going to happen. eom woolldog Oct 2016 #20
He is the party. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #25
Ain't that the simple truth. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #28
He just replaced their dogwhistle with a Trumpet. nt tblue37 Oct 2016 #37
very well put! Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #48
They can't stop him. nt Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #41
Ugh please don't let him quit. :( nt helpisontheway Oct 2016 #4
His ego will never allow him to drop out. Little Star Oct 2016 #11
you are buying the corporate $$$media hype jodymarie aimee Oct 2016 #6
Trump vadermike Oct 2016 #7
His family will probably encourage Donald helpisontheway Oct 2016 #9
No because it would mean the ever loving end of their brand. If he keeps "apologizing" and sticks it RBInMaine Oct 2016 #22
Weren't they out on recess till after the election? meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #10
Yeah, I know about those meetings. GOPers had one during the 2008 Iliyah Oct 2016 #12
CBC? tgards79 Oct 2016 #14
More likely to report the news than our fake journalists. TexasProgresive Oct 2016 #21
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Our news is not so much entertainment - at least at the CBC. applegrove Oct 2016 #23
They CAN remove him. sofa king Oct 2016 #15
No they can't oberliner Oct 2016 #16
Doesn't matter. sofa king Oct 2016 #24
Five days before the election would mean numerous people already voted. LisaL Oct 2016 #26
But fortunately, the people only voted for an elector, not a President. sofa king Oct 2016 #29
State election laws actually mean everything according to the Constitution re: electors stevenleser Oct 2016 #33
His name WILL be on the ballot Cosmocat Oct 2016 #42
How well do you think it would go with his voter base? LisaL Oct 2016 #18
Sorry, but your post is hyperbolic. If they did that, it would be civil war & the end of the party. RBInMaine Oct 2016 #19
You may be right. sofa king Oct 2016 #27
Good point. and Pence does seem to want to be Prez. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #32
I think you are right The Genealogist Oct 2016 #36
I think they'll force him to withdraw. No choice at this point. Cognitive_Resonance Oct 2016 #46
The GOP can remove him right up to the day before the election, BUT bluestateguy Oct 2016 #34
That's right, the Electoral College can sort it out. Names on ballots and cast votes Cognitive_Resonance Oct 2016 #49
The Con will sue.....and contest the election that moves forward without him......if we thought KewlKat Oct 2016 #17
Republican lawyer Ben Ginsberg said it would be litigated in each state because redstateblues Oct 2016 #30
Civics 101, and Ginsberg is right. longship Oct 2016 #51
They were meeting last night, too… regnaD kciN Oct 2016 #31
That group of Brain Trusts will surely figure something out Rex Oct 2016 #35
They're going to cut him out of their fundraising to the extent they can .... bettyellen Oct 2016 #38
I am pretty sure they wanted to dump him from the start. LisaL Oct 2016 #39
They can meet all they want Trenzalore Oct 2016 #40
You are so right workinclasszero Oct 2016 #43
And the GOP cannot complain they are being exploited because when a businessman does what he does to applegrove Oct 2016 #44
Follow the money .... cheyanne Oct 2016 #45
the kochs plus adelson fierywoman Oct 2016 #47
The Mercers are wholeheartedly supporting him... Princess Turandot Oct 2016 #50
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
2. That is tough shit. They can not force Donnie Groper to withdraw from the debate. It is up to him.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:07 PM
Oct 2016

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
5. What deal? If he drops out he will be ruined completely
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:14 PM
Oct 2016

If he gets to the election
He gets sort of vindicated by 35% who vote for him

Scruffy1

(3,252 posts)
8. He is the party.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:17 PM
Oct 2016

They built it. They own it.Built by dozens of shock jocks, paid media hacks and craven politicians. Don'y let the bastards weasel out. He's just not as smooth about his misogony and racism as they are. They've fed the loyal base such bullshit for years they turned into mushrooms.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
13. Wrong. He has declared he is IN and he will not go down with the ship. He won't go there. Period.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:19 PM
Oct 2016

sheshe2

(83,637 posts)
25. He is the party.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:36 PM
Oct 2016

He just says everything they believe more crudely that they do.

They own him. Let him speak, sadly he speaks for them.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
7. Trump
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:16 PM
Oct 2016

Has said he won't quit. I guess it makes sense at this point fir his sorry ads to follow thru and lose. Gop can beg all they want. Up to him

helpisontheway

(5,004 posts)
9. His family will probably encourage Donald
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:18 PM
Oct 2016

to quit. They are worried about the family business. I hope he does not listen. Please let him stay in. People have not heard all the negative stuff about Pence and the other Republicans. Too late to define them... If they did that what in the world would happen to the early votes?

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
22. No because it would mean the ever loving end of their brand. If he keeps "apologizing" and sticks it
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:31 PM
Oct 2016

out, then he can say he didn't cave, kept his word, and won't go down in history as the first presidential nominee of a major party to resign in disgrace.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Yeah, I know about those meetings. GOPers had one during the 2008
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:19 PM
Oct 2016

Inauguration Ball wherein they decided to oppose and work against the President of the United States of America. Fuck them.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
15. They CAN remove him.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:22 PM
Oct 2016

Do any of you really think that a party of criminals would let mere rules hold them back? This is how long Republican rules would hold up in an RNC meeting:

(gavel) The Emergency Meeting of the Republican is convened.

Mr. Chairman, I move to suspend the rules for this meeting.

The motion to suspend the rules is put before the committee by voice vote. All in favor signify by saying, "aye."

AYE.

The motion to suspend the rules is carried.

Mr. Chairman, I move to remove Donald J. Trump as Republican nominee for President of the United States....


Republicans are criminals. Their rules exist to facilitate their criminal ways. They can and will do whatever they want to do. The only question is whether they want to do this or not. My guess is that they're depending on the knuckledraggers to carry the House and the Senate for them, so we're unlikely to see the above. But if it gets bad enough, we just might see it as late as Halloween.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
24. Doesn't matter.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:35 PM
Oct 2016

State election laws don't mean shit if they force people to vote for someone who isn't a candidate any more in a federal election. The RNC has the final word on who the nominee is going to be and the RNC has provisions to change out a candidate if that candidate dies, declines, "or otherwise," up to five days before the election. And they can suspend and change their rules to replace a candidate out even later than that.

This was proven in at least three Senate elections in the early 00s (replacing Wellstone, Carnahan, and Torricelli), all of which were contested by Republicans, all of which they lost (the court case--Norm Coleman won his election).

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
26. Five days before the election would mean numerous people already voted.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:36 PM
Oct 2016

And the ballots are printed. His name would still be on the ballot.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
29. But fortunately, the people only voted for an elector, not a President.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:53 PM
Oct 2016

Faithless elector laws aren't going to hold up against the Supremacy Clause, either. Hear me when I tell you that the only thing preventing Republicans from doing this is their own self interest. Votes don't matter, ballots don't matter, and public opinion doesn't matter. It only comes down to the Republican Party itself, which can be expected to act in its own self interest.

That may--or may not--take votes, ballots, and public opinion into account, but only when they match Republican self interest. There are plenty of us around who perfectly recall exactly this happening in 1972, 1980, 2000 and 2004.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
33. State election laws actually mean everything according to the Constitution re: electors
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:04 PM
Oct 2016

Article 2 section 1

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/provisions.html

THE CONSTITUTION
Article II

Section 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
18. How well do you think it would go with his voter base?
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:27 PM
Oct 2016

If they could, they would have done it during the convention.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
19. Sorry, but your post is hyperbolic. If they did that, it would be civil war & the end of the party.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:29 PM
Oct 2016

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
27. You may be right.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

But I'm telling all of you, you are dead wrong if you think they cannot do it. They can, and they will, if it suits their self-serving purposes.

And, I will remind all of you before Monday, it only takes one guy, Mike Pence, to make it happen. All he has to do is decline the nomination as Vice President. That forces the RNC to meet to name a replacement, and I guarantee you that when they do, somebody will notice what else they can do while they're meeting.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
36. I think you are right
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:08 PM
Oct 2016

There's a shit storm going on now, but what we're seeing is only the early stages of it. Its going to be an ugly October.

Cognitive_Resonance

(1,546 posts)
46. I think they'll force him to withdraw. No choice at this point.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:13 PM
Oct 2016

Everyone knows it's only going to get worse if they don't act.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
34. The GOP can remove him right up to the day before the election, BUT
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:04 PM
Oct 2016

It's too late to formally change the name of the nominee on the ballots. All the state deadlines are passed.

Cognitive_Resonance

(1,546 posts)
49. That's right, the Electoral College can sort it out. Names on ballots and cast votes
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:38 PM
Oct 2016

are not the issue. Trump is about to lose the GOP their House majority. That's what at stake, and that's what will force them to act. I think we'll see something similar to how Nixon exited, but probably involving Trump's family to convince him to step aside.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
17. The Con will sue.....and contest the election that moves forward without him......if we thought
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:26 PM
Oct 2016

the Gore/Bush election was stressful I fear we ain't seen nothin yet. And no majority in the Supremes.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
30. Republican lawyer Ben Ginsberg said it would be litigated in each state because
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:56 PM
Oct 2016

Of the electoral system. He was very dubious about it

longship

(40,416 posts)
51. Civics 101, and Ginsberg is right.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 12:30 AM
Oct 2016

The US presidential election is 50 separate state elections with each state making their own laws governing their election. This is the system that the founders set up.

That is what makes the removal of a candidate so damned difficult at this time.

If the GOP were smart, they'd avoid the globe crushing clusterfuck and go with the more ordinary clusterfuck of just letting Drumpf lose.

Either way, they're clusterfucked.

Myself, I want Drumpf to take it all the way. Yup! It will be a clusterfuck for the GOP. But I would just prefer to avoid the global clusterfuck that throws us into a huge constitutional crisis. That would be bad for everybody.

BTW, Ginsberg is smart, but he's still a douche.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
31. They were meeting last night, too…
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:01 PM
Oct 2016

Face it, I think they know the White House is lost -- right now, they're trying to figure out how to distance themselves while not losing the Trumpistas' votes in their own races. I'm sure their major concern right now is how to avoid losing the Senate, and maybe even the House…not to mention lots of State Houses and Governors' Mansions.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
38. They're going to cut him out of their fundraising to the extent they can ....
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:10 PM
Oct 2016

Won't print him another bumper sticker !!

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
40. They can meet all they want
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:12 PM
Oct 2016

The beauty of the entire Donald thing is they have nothing to appeal to him with.

If this was Ted Cruz or some other bozo in the party at the core there is some belief in the conservative movement. Donald Trump gives two shits about conservatism, the republican party, or the country in general. This was always about him from the get go.

He feels they plan to railroad him he'll blow himself up to spite them.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
43. You are so right
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:46 PM
Oct 2016

The idiot republicans let an narcissistic ideologue get the nomination. Trumps loyalty is to Trump. He will burn the damned republican party to the ground and laugh!

Let Trump be Trump I always say!

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
44. And the GOP cannot complain they are being exploited because when a businessman does what he does to
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:59 PM
Oct 2016

further their own interests... GOP dogma states that this is never wrong.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
45. Follow the money ....
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:13 PM
Oct 2016

If the big backers, the Mercers, decide he has to go . . .they can buy him off . . .and let him declare the election was fixed so he refuses to take part (face saving)

fierywoman

(7,668 posts)
47. the kochs plus adelson
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:21 PM
Oct 2016

could offer him $100million to quit -- given his non-liquidity, he'd probably take it. (Sigh. But wouldn't it be funny if he agreed to the price, quit, and they only paid him 10 cents on the dollar? Karma's a b----.)

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
50. The Mercers are wholeheartedly supporting him...
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:38 PM
Oct 2016
We are completely indifferent to Mr. Trump's locker room braggadocio.


In their response, they also hurl the rw boilerplate bs accusations against the Clintons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/08/gop-mega-donors-robert-and-rebekah-mercer-stand-by-trump/
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