2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt's interesting we are starting to see church leaders turn on Trump. I bet the GOP is behind this
They have always been in bed together so it's no surprise that there would be GOP big shots hitting the phones to get the evangelical's to pull their support from Trump so the GOP doesn't completely disintegrate. The church leaders have to get hold of these idiots as they are crashing and burning everything they built over years. We know the GOP and wealthy business leaders enlisted church leaders to start pushing back against FDR's New Deal 75 years ago and what we are finally seeing is the culmination of all this manipulation. They lose the evangelicals and all the toying with the insane asylum means the cuckoos are fleeing the wealthy business owners nest and they are 2/3rds of the Republican Party. However, they could be to the point where they don't trust the church leaders either, or since most of them are just racist fuck faces, they may have always just hid behind the power of the church and never were really on board in the first place, waiting for their real knight in shining armor which was Hitler II to come along and here he is in Donald Trump!
This is all quite fascinating to watch!
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Trump to save the down ticket
A reverse blackmail
If all evangelical don't vote for the presidency but vote down ballot they can salvage something
If the feud with trump gets eorse
And he decides to punish the GOP
Also pulling most non racist evangelicals would crater trump to less than 30%
By doing that you'd get the least crazy Christians + establishment GOP able to rebuild the party while the trump tea party faction splits off
napi21
(45,806 posts)the Evangelicals were torn between supporting The Con & supporting Hillary. IF more tapes come out about The Con, in the next few weeks, O think Hillary just might get Ga. in her column. There are LOTS of Evangelicals here and if he's losing some of them, it might be just enough to sink him.
FreeState
(10,569 posts)killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)because of his morals. Along with the party, he has split the religious right.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... is the fact that "church leaders" were ever supporting Trump in the first place, no less having to be persuaded not to do so now.
Given Trump's statements up to now - public statements - the Evangelicals tipped their hands for all to see: We'll support anyone, so long as it seems politically advantageous to do so - the "actually following in Christ's footsteps" thing be damned.
That's why Evangelicals support Republicans - the very people who consistently vote FOR the party that cuts food stamps, welfare, funding for homeless shelters, etc. They threw the whole "feed the hungry, shelter the homeless" thing out the window a LONG time ago.
Show me an iconic "religious leader" by GOP standards, and I'll show you a flim-flam man who's living in a mansion paid for by donations from seniors living on their meager SS checks.