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Related: About this forumTrump biographers on DJT & women: it's not about sex, but about subjugation, acquisition, dominance
I posted another thread earlier today about a very long, very enlightening Politico interview with several Trump biographers
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-biographers-214350
but that thread, like the article's title -- I Think Hes a Very Dangerous Man for the Next Three or Four Weeks -- focused on how dangerous Trump is for the country.
In light of the stories coming out this morning about Trump walking in on beauty pageant contestants in both the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants, I wanted to post something else I'd remembered from the article, about Trump's attitude toward women, as seen by his biographers:
OBrien: Graydon Carter in Vanity Fair, in the most recent issue, recounted inviting Trump to one of the Vanity Fair parties in the 90s and seating him next to Vendela Kirsebom, the Swedish model. And about halfway through the dinner, she comes running up to him quasi-hysterical because she cant handle sitting next to Trump any longer because of all of his lewd behavior.
But the problem with reporting all of these things is that the women involved often are afraid to go on the record. I know that his ex‑wives, when I was reporting, were very wary of being interviewed and running afoul of him by doing so, at least when they spoke with me.
Blair: Arent they nondisclosured up?
OBrien: Well, I interviewed with Marla, and Donald knew it. And I interviewed with Ivana, and Donald knew it. But, in the course of interviews, they were a lot of things they were nervous about that did involve just a classic, you know, NDA. They were nervous about him.
Kruse: Do you all think he is driven more by lust or by fame?
Barrett: I think this is almost nothing to do with lust. This is subjugation.
OBrien: Right. Its acquisition.
Barrett: This has almost nothing to do with sex. This is a total power move if youre talking about I can plunge my tongue down any mouth I see. I just make my move quickly.
OBrien: After doing a round of power Tic Tacs.
Blair: As we all know, he is popping Tic Tacs all the time, but its just the analog behavior to how he is with men in any roomlooking to dominate, being competitive, looking for a way to be in charge. And for women, I think for him, theres really only one way to be in charge, and that is to dominate, and if possible, you know, some physical aggression isnt off the table.
OBrien: And, you know, he brought that into this political campaign. Hes really destroyed a sense of decency or boundaries or civic behavior in the course of this election that involved almost polluting everything hes touched in this process, and this is the sort of apotheosis of all of that, unfortunately.
But the problem with reporting all of these things is that the women involved often are afraid to go on the record. I know that his ex‑wives, when I was reporting, were very wary of being interviewed and running afoul of him by doing so, at least when they spoke with me.
Blair: Arent they nondisclosured up?
OBrien: Well, I interviewed with Marla, and Donald knew it. And I interviewed with Ivana, and Donald knew it. But, in the course of interviews, they were a lot of things they were nervous about that did involve just a classic, you know, NDA. They were nervous about him.
Kruse: Do you all think he is driven more by lust or by fame?
Barrett: I think this is almost nothing to do with lust. This is subjugation.
OBrien: Right. Its acquisition.
Barrett: This has almost nothing to do with sex. This is a total power move if youre talking about I can plunge my tongue down any mouth I see. I just make my move quickly.
OBrien: After doing a round of power Tic Tacs.
Blair: As we all know, he is popping Tic Tacs all the time, but its just the analog behavior to how he is with men in any roomlooking to dominate, being competitive, looking for a way to be in charge. And for women, I think for him, theres really only one way to be in charge, and that is to dominate, and if possible, you know, some physical aggression isnt off the table.
OBrien: And, you know, he brought that into this political campaign. Hes really destroyed a sense of decency or boundaries or civic behavior in the course of this election that involved almost polluting everything hes touched in this process, and this is the sort of apotheosis of all of that, unfortunately.
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Trump biographers on DJT & women: it's not about sex, but about subjugation, acquisition, dominance (Original Post)
highplainsdem
Oct 2016
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(4,112 posts)1. He'd SO get a knee.