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ancianita

(36,013 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:18 AM Oct 2016

From Matt Taibbi: The Fury and Failure of Donald Trump

It's important for us to see how Taibbi understands Trump supporters' desperate drive to have Trump.

Yet the rest of us have no small problem to face when Trump voters too willingly overlook how bad a business man Trump has really been.

If voters buy into Trump's idea that the third largest country can be run like a business -- his "I'll get you a better deal" promise -- they need to see how Trump's record shows he'd would run it like a bad business.

Good business is yet another sector that Trump would ruin.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-fury-and-failure-of-donald-trump-w444943

The first symptom of a degraded aristocracy is a lack of capable candidates for the throne. After years of indulgence, ruling families become frail, inbred and isolated, with no one but mystics, impotents and children to put forward as kings. Think of Nikolai Romanov reading fortunes as his troops starved at the front. Weak princes lead to popular uprisings. Which brings us to this year's Republican field.


In recent years it all went stale. They started to run out of lines to sell the public. Things got so desperate that during the Tea Party phase, some GOP candidates began dabbling in the truth. They told voters that all Washington politicians, including their own leaders, had abandoned them and become whores for special interests. It was a slapstick routine: Throw us bums out!


If you thought lesser-evilism was bad before, wait until the answer to every question you might have about your political leaders becomes, "Would you rather have Trump in office?"


Trump can't win. Our national experiment can't end because one aging narcissist got bored of sex and food. Not even America deserves that. But that doesn't mean we come out ahead. We're more divided than ever, sicker than ever, dumber than ever. And there's no reason to think it won't be worse the next time.


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From Matt Taibbi: The Fury and Failure of Donald Trump (Original Post) ancianita Oct 2016 OP
One word: LOSER Cakes488 Oct 2016 #1
The cheap gold plating has worn off. The Trump name will be reviled for generations. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #2
I think we're in danger of Trump supporters' random holy hell violence for generations, too. ancianita Oct 2016 #3
Same as it ever was. I actually believe they're less dangerous out in the light than they were TonyPDX Oct 2016 #4
They silently simmer no more. To me, that they see his opponent as evil is not a good thing. ancianita Oct 2016 #6
I don't disagree-- but they're the same danger they've always been. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #8
Absolutely not. This is OUR country, too. ancianita Oct 2016 #10
This is an example from another thread of what I'm thinking will be the violence in our future. ancianita Oct 2016 #11
You may want to warn people about the art accompanying Matt's article. Yavin4 Oct 2016 #5
Agreed. Thanks for doing that. ancianita Oct 2016 #7
... ancianita Oct 2016 #9
Is there honestly a more loathsome person on this planet? smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #12
What do we conclude about his supporters. It's not he who injures the American Us, it's them. ancianita Oct 2016 #13
earlier thread on this: Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #14
Very sorry I missed it. I rec'd and kicked it. The least I can do. ancianita Oct 2016 #15
just so you can see what else is being discussed Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #16
I read The Great Derangement and Griftopia and everything magazines publish by him. ancianita Oct 2016 #17

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
4. Same as it ever was. I actually believe they're less dangerous out in the light than they were
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:34 AM
Oct 2016

before, silently simmering under their rocks.

ancianita

(36,013 posts)
6. They silently simmer no more. To me, that they see his opponent as evil is not a good thing.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:43 AM
Oct 2016

She could face assassins everywhere during her term. As afraid as I was for Obama's life early on, I'm now even more afraid for Hillary.

The "lock her up" crowds will now want to see her dead no matter how long it takes.

They are no small danger to the political atmosphere of this country.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
8. I don't disagree-- but they're the same danger they've always been.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:52 AM
Oct 2016

I just prefer to see them, despite their disgusting language and behavior. Trump didn't create the crowds, he just got out ahead of them.

That's why I am hoping for a really decisive beat down of their pathetic ideology at the polls in a few weeks. A massive victory for us enriches and confirms our strength and resolve to push progressive programs forward.

We cannot let them inhibit us. We cannot cower to them.

Yavin4

(35,428 posts)
5. You may want to warn people about the art accompanying Matt's article.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:36 AM
Oct 2016

When you click on the link, there's a very graphic cartoon. Just a thought.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Is there honestly a more loathsome person on this planet?
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 12:58 PM
Oct 2016

I know there are plenty of warmongers, evil dictators and heartless CEO's, but this guy embodies every single one of their negative traits and then some. He is such an arrogant, entitled asshole!

ancianita

(36,013 posts)
15. Very sorry I missed it. I rec'd and kicked it. The least I can do.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 01:20 PM
Oct 2016

One upside is that at least it's getting good circulation.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
16. just so you can see what else is being discussed
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 01:28 PM
Oct 2016

glad you put it up, cause taibbi's is a voice that should be heard

ever read any of his books?

his Russian experiences are a must read, as well as his vendetta against so called man of the working stiff Tom Friedman, and his flat earth delusions, one of which I posted there

here's a Russia story

The demise of The Exile began, as so many demises have in Russia, with an official letter. Faxed to the offices of the newspaper late on a Friday afternoon the spring before last from somewhere within the bowels of Rossvyazokhrankultura, the Russian Federal Service for Mass Media, Telecommunications, and Cultural Heritage Protection, it announced the imminent “conducting of an unscheduled action to check the observance of the legislation of the Russian Federation on mass media.” The Exile, a Moscow-based, English-language biweekly, stood accused of violating Article Four of that legislation by encouraging extremism, spreading pornography, or promoting drug use. The letter scheduled the unscheduled action to take place between May 13 and June 11. This being Russia, it wasn’t faxed until May 22.

An Exile sales director, about to leave for the day, received the fax and phoned an editor, who called the real target of the letter, Exile founder and editor in chief Mark Ames, at that moment a world away in Los Gatos, California. Ames in turn promptly called a few lawyers in Moscow, who warned him he might be arrested if he returned. Someone, apparently, had it out for The Exile.







But who? Ames likes to indulge a grandiose paranoia whenever possible, and did. A functionary? An enraged oligarch? Someone on President Dmitry Medvedev’s staff, or, more to the point, in Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s circle of spooks? (The Exile’s first cover story on Putin, in 1999, grafted the man’s head onto the body of a latex-clad dominatrix over the headline putin commands mother russia: kneel!) Egotism aside, the possibilities were in fact endless. Since its debut, in 1997, The Exile, which read like the bastard progeny of Spy magazine and an X-rated version of Poor Richard’s Almanack, had pilloried, in the foulest terms possible, almost everyone of importance, and no importance, in Russia, and had made a point of violating not one but all of Article Four’s provisions. But everyone knew that.

So why now?

No one seemed to know that.

The one thing that Ames did know: he was going back to Moscow. Putin’s Russia is an infinitely more dangerous place for journalists than the crumbling country that had drawn Ames 15 years before from the same suburban town where he paced about now, but still it was Russia, and not America, that was his spiritual home. It was not for nothing he’d named his paper The Exile.


more at link. he tells this story in one of his books.....monkey spanking, whatever, IIRC

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/02/exile-201002

edit: ha....https://www.amazon.com/Spanking-Donkey-Dispatches-Dumb-Season/dp/0307345718



spread the word......

ancianita

(36,013 posts)
17. I read The Great Derangement and Griftopia and everything magazines publish by him.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 01:33 PM
Oct 2016

He's powerful, beautiful and true about all things American.

I count on his outlook to help mine.

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