2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI have a relative who's a lawyer. Hillary's got a huge ground game to protect the polls Nov. 8th.
I didn't know this before talking to my relative yesterday. Both he and his son are working for Hillary in NC, (the son paid, and he got a photo with Hillary at the event the other day!) and I got interesting insight.
My relative is a lawyer, and on election day he will be hanging out in a "bunker" with a large bank of lawyers who will be on call to go to any polling place where Trump people are doing anything to violate election law. They're taking a class on how to approach people and explain what the laws are. They're quite willing to face down armed "poll watchers" who intimidate potential voters. I was told this is going on in many states.
What I don't know is if people know this is happening, that Hillary's people have got your back. I hope the word is spread, so people don't stay away out of fear, which they are ginning up more and more.
So look into it in your state if you can and let people know. It might help.
winetourdriver
(196 posts)Oh this is so very good, spread the word!!
nolabear
(41,959 posts)My son's in the wine industry. He's been on many a tour, both casually and professionally!
klook
(12,153 posts)Might help with turnout...although perhaps a tough sell.
winetourdriver
(196 posts)Sorry I am so late in getting back, I have been ill. I was a wine tour driver for eight years, but I have retired.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)winetourdriver
(196 posts)I have to say it was the most enjoyable gig I ever had..
still_one
(92,116 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)In many African American churches it's a huge social event, and he's got lots of people who want rides. It sounds like quite the party. And it's not a Trump party!
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Thank you for sharing this very important information today
Secondly, tell your relative THANK YOU for all of the work he/his son are doing in the name of GOTV for Hillary/Tim, and thank your relative and all of his fellow attorneys for being there and for upholding our civil rights via our right to vote
nolabear
(41,959 posts)My relative is a lifelong, hard working liberal in a sea of conservatives. So am I, but my work is done in private. Hmmmm...wonder if they need therapists at the polls...
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...to a post-vote-picnic, party, barbecue! That would combat all those "I don't know if I'm gonna vote..." types. Their "I voted" sticker and some potluck food would serve as their invitation. I think we should all plan one and urge Hillary voters across the U.S. to do the same!
still_one
(92,116 posts)Yonnie3
(17,427 posts)unless the "poll watchers" ignore the law.
I vote at an elementary school and my state prohibits any firearms (permitted or otherwise) in the building or on the grounds.
Gothmog
(145,063 posts)In most states, poll watchers have to be eligible voters in the county where the voting booth is located. That is why Trump's poll watchers from outside Philadelphia will not be unable to enter Philadelphia polling locations. In addition there is an injunction in place against the RNC that applies to Trump If these people are directly associated with Trump, then they are covered by an injunction that the Democrats have kept in place since 1982. http://electionlawblog.org/?p=85289
(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose
If this activity violates the consent decree, the DNC can ask for it to be extended for up to another 8 years.
I have been busy recruiting good democrats to be poll workers. The best thing that one can do to protect the vote is to work as an election worker. A good democrat serving as an election judge, assistant election judge or poll worker can do a great deal to protect the vote. Poll watchers are a poor substitute for having someone work the election as a poll worker
The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)Did not know this.
Hillary is a pro. Don the con is a punk.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)as I was in 2012.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)jzodda
(2,124 posts)We will be ready
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Botany
(70,483 posts)BTW lots of bluster about "armed poll watchers" but that shit will not happen in OH.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Botany
(70,483 posts)But ever since then we have working on "the problem." BTW one thing
you can count on is that most of the tea party/trump heads/born again
idiots is that they are bone ass stupid. Most of them are too dumb to
get the needed credentials to become a poll watcher.
BTW part 2 by election day HRC should have more then enough early
votes to have OH in the bag because of early voting.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)Hekate
(90,625 posts)Mc Mike
(9,113 posts)866 OUR VOTE, 866 MYVOTE1, 866 VE Y VOTA.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)REC!
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)My Uncle is a former senator (no, I won't use his name on here, sorry, you'll just have to take my word for it).
My aunt, his wife and well known in her own right (won't reveal her name either), has told me the same thing. They live in a red state and are both democrats. She is very optimistic about HRC winning and has reassured me more than once (when I was bed-wetting like crazy).
What they've heard internally (totally hooked up, don't ya know), is that there is absolutely a coordinated and professional ground game in the red states to protect polls. HRC's ground game mimics our current POTUS in '08 and '12 and that's going to win her the election.
But, it is critical that everyone votes. The only way that Hillary won't win this easily is if folks stay home. That really is the bottom line, no joke.
And yes, sorry to admit this, but Trump could still win. It's highly unlikely, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
All the more reason to GOTV!
nolabear
(41,959 posts)But I agree, the people who are working for Hillary (and that wretched establishment) are professional, dedicated, and know what they're doing.
I'm not going to relax til it's called, but I do feel more protected.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Thanks!
gademocrat7
(10,651 posts)Thank you for helping ensure that people can cast their ballots without intimidation.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)for some reason the Hillary Camp mistook me for a lawyer and has been requesting my help... wish I was a lawyer just for this election
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nolabear
(41,959 posts)Thanks of posting!
bench scientist
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I'm in Illinois and headed to MI for the election day.
GOTV.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)bench scientist
(1,107 posts)GOTV
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ancianita
(36,016 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)ancianita
(36,016 posts)probably in Iowa, Wisconsin or Indiana.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)There's not a lot to see ahead of election day.
Many boards of elections will have poll watchers during the peak voting periods, but we're rather unobtrusive. The role is primarily to watch, report, and summon assistance when we see a problem starting. In 2012, when I was a pollwatcher during the early voting period, most voters assumed I worked for the Board of Elections. So not much to see.
Training will be limited to individuals assigned to work the polling places - so you won't see much of that, either.
Typically there will be a pollwatcher assigned to each precinct on election day, with a couple of pollworkers who are permitted to be in any polling place so a last-minute replacement is available.
The kind of volunteering you are doing is also important, but not the formal pollwatcher work being discussed here. When you travel to a different state, your role is generally limited to GOTV or behind-the-flag-line work.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)Democratic Committee. Specifically to do poll watching. No return email or phone call from them. I'm in Pennsylvania, western side.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)My spouse has volunteered, and may not be used. She has mild cognitive impairment, doesn't necessarily read situations well, and has a tendency to do first and ask forgiveness later. If a pollwatcher misreads something - or violates the rules - the pollwatcher from the other side (or the election officials) can ask for them to be removed. Because pollwatchers are fixed (aside from 1-2 rovers per county), that would leave the precinct without a pollwatcher for the rest of election day.
The question of whether she will work on election day will likely come down to whether there are enough known entities to cover the precincts without her.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)at a polling place for about 10 years. People on the committee know who I am.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)Gothmog
(145,063 posts)When I train poll watchers, I always encourage these volunteers to consider working as election workers. Poll watchers are not allowed to talk to voters in most states and a good election worker can do far more to protect the vote than a poll watcher. If you are still scheduled to be an election worker, I encourage you to serve in that role
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)no one ever left without either voting, or me directing them to the correct poll. Even the Judge from the other precinct sharing our hall directed people to me when there were questions.
Gothmog
(145,063 posts)I have been an election judge myself. It is a great way to understand the voting process. My youngest child and my son in law will be judges this cycle
I am serious that one can do far more good as an election judge in lieu of being a poll watcher. I would strongly prefer to have good people in place as election workers instead of being poll watchers
Gothmog
(145,063 posts)The Victory Counsel are looking for out of state attorneys to go to Penn. I was e-mailed today by the Victory Counsel program and Penn was one of the states where they are looking for volunteers.
TeamPooka
(24,217 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It's so good to know that Hillary's campaign is well aware of possible problems at the polls, and more important, is doing something about it!
And many, many thanks to all the people, lawyers and others, who are working to protect the vote.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)I'm pretty confident of a win but I'm not confident there won't be crazy on parade.
deathrind
(1,786 posts)A robust legal team on the ground in every state in play. Because you can bet that RNC / Trump is going to have lawyers across the country doing their best to impact the democratic vote thru voter ID laws / voter roll purges...any technicality they can find to reduce votes for HRC. They don't have to win they just need to make it close and then route this election into court as happened in 2000.
Gothmog
(145,063 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 15, 2016, 06:36 PM - Edit history (1)
I have volunteered with Kerry/Edwards and the Obama voter protection teams
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)emmadoggy
(2,142 posts)early voting is avoiding this sort of stuff.
I voted yesterday!
Gothmog
(145,063 posts)I am with the Victory Counsel Program. I have volunteered with both Kerry/Edwards and the the Obama Voter Protection team and the Victory Counsel program is the best organized program.
I am planning on staying in Texas to help with the Texas voter protection operations but I went to Florida in 2004. I have friends who are headed to Colorado and other states.
RoccoRyg
(260 posts)I'm an election judge here in Illinois, and while voters don't need an ID to vote (only a signature that matches the one on file), ANY person can challenge a voter. Anybody can claim you're not who you say you are and aren't allowed to vote, and the burden is on you to prove your eligibility. The judges then vote on letting you vote or not.
I wouldn't doubt for a second that Trump or some other right-wing troublemaker would deploy people like this to polling places, especially in swing states, to chip away at Hillary's lead. Luckily, Secretary Clinton has been dealing with this for twenty-five years and is prepared for all their tricks.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)mountain grammy
(26,613 posts)Colorado is all mail in ballots which is great.
hay rick
(7,603 posts)I'm in a small county in Florida- he is from DC but is already in place for the election. I asked him if he was involved in the successful appeal that got the voter registration deadline extended after Hurricane Matthew. He said no, but some of his colleagues were. I also know a couple local attorneys who have volunteered. I am confident that the legal team in Florida is ready.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)This is comforting.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Gropers
yardwork
(61,588 posts)Democrats - especially people of color - in NC are mad as hell. The tea party has tried to disenfranchise our votes. I predict large turnout among Democrats in NC.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)More about voter suppression such as voter ID but in Texas the courts threw it out.