NYT op-ed: "Detested and defeated, Donald Trump is now in a tear-the-country-down rage"

[babylonsister]

http://boingboing.net/2016/10/14/nyt-op-ed-detested-and-defe.html


Rob Beschizza / 6:05 am Fri Oct 14, 2016
NYT op-ed: "Detested and defeated, Donald Trump is now in a tear-the-country-down rage"



The New York Times' Timothy Egan writes on the stark, sudden demise of American civility under the force of millionaire Donald Trump's presidential run: " "He’s made America vile. He’s got angel-voiced children yelling “bitch” and flipping the bird at rallies."

Here’s his lesson for young minds: If you’re rich and boorish enough, you can get away with anything. Get away with sexual assault. Get away with not paying taxes. Get away with never telling the truth. Get away flirting with treason. Get away with stiffing people who work for you, while you take yours. Get away with mocking the disabled, veterans and families of war heroes. ... But those who take pleasure in watching Trump destroy the Republican Party are missing the bigger picture. He’s trying to destroy the country, as well. Civility, always a tenuous thing, cannot be quickly restored in a society that has learned to hate in public, at full throttle.

Three, maybe four in every ten voters are going to vote for a man who boasted proudly of getting away with sexual assault. They'll still be there, even after he is done.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. They sure will still be there........and then what?

How do we educate or silence or accommodate them? They will be very angry and in the mood for blood.

How do we fix that?

[LongTomH]

2. "Angel-voiced children?" Like this one......

[Motley13]

5. Young donald j trump

[AlbertCat]

12. Young donald j trump

He was never that cute, nor could he sing like that.

[PCIntern]

6. I will never forget watching that in the theater

For the first time.

It can easily happen here

[irisblue]

10. truly creepy scene.

[workinclasszero]

18. Naw..that couldnt happen here

right?

[patricia92243]

21. What movie does this part of? Beautiful singing - until I realized what I was seeing.

[LongTomH]

23. Cabaret (1972)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068327/

[jberryhill]

26. That is the dramatic point of that scene

Beautiful singing. Until you realize what is going on.

"You still think you can control them?"

[Helen Borg]

28. Looks pretty "Arian"

[Akamai]

41. Wonderful posting of this creepy, creepy (well done!) movie scene!

It sure as heck CAN happen here! Especially as the press has not been speaking truth to power, as the press now is more interested in making money, maintaining power.

Very, very creepy hint of what Trump can bring about!

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

45. Pretty much, yeah.

[bench scientist]

3. K & R

Yes they will be.I fear the willfully ignorant, willfully hateful and willfully irrational will not go quietly but they can and will be defeated by decent people everywhere.

[texanwitch]

8. I am not afraid.

I have my Father's dogtags from WW2.

I keep one of the tags on my key chain, the other one in the flag box.

People back then had a lot more to deal with.

We will deal with this.

It is our responsibility.

[lillypaddle]

9. You're right

Thanks for the reminder.

[texanwitch]

13. Now I do understand how people felt back then.

There are more of us then crazy ones.

My Father entered the Navy in 1943.

We will be as brave as they were.

[lillypaddle]

27. There is no other choice

[texanwitch]

35. I asked my Father if he was afraid.

He said yeah but they had a job to do.

I used to do clinic escort duty so I know about the crazy types.

They are bullies.

[Amonester]

43. Thank you for these true words! My Dad was a victor too!

And Don Caligulawannabe insulted all those who, unlike himself, served and sacrificed for us.

No doubt they will hold their vows if need be...

[erronis]

11. Beautiful. A reminder of our real responsibilities - as humans, as Americans. /nt

[ailsagirl]

37. Amen

Thank you for that

[Foggyhill]

4. According to him, we were already in hell so what

I'd there for mr sac of crap crybaby to Tear down, at least stay consistent in your delusion jizztrumpet!

[DCBob]

7. RW media especially con talk radio created these morons.

Not sure what to do about it but they are dangerous to society. Something needs to be done.

[AlbertCat]

14. RW media especially con talk radio created these morons.

They were morons before RW media tapped into them....and most of them seem to think some god is on their side. All before Gingrich & Rush. In fact, the GOP played specifically to religious people.

Don't forget religion.

[DCBob]

16. No doubt these individuals were fertile territory for RW media to exploit.

But I dont think religion has that much to do with it. There are plenty of religious folks on both sides. This is more to do with ignorance and being uneducated.

[AlbertCat]

38. ignorance and being uneducated.

I'm not so sure.... because there are plenty of well educated people who went with it too.

But sometimes, the education is seen as a sorta useless thing you have to go thru when you are young... and then outta school you fall right back into the misogynistic, hate/dismiss the "others", "I'm righteous and put upon"/ anti-intellectualism thing religion supports and fosters so very much.

[Upthevibe]

17. Something I've never understood is why in the Hell people like Buffet haven't bought

radio stations! Just think about how much the Rush Limbaughs of the world have contributed to this catastrophe. For example, several years ago I was really enjoying Stephanie Miller, Randi Rhodes, etc. One day they were on and the next day gone! WTF! This is in L.A. where, of course, there's a market for progressives. Can anyone explain to me why some of the incredibly wealthy folks on our side haven't done this?

[SHRED]

19. I wish I knew

I know Air America flopped unfortunately.

[meow2u3]

22. Good question

Buffett ought to start buying all sorts of media outlets: radio and TV networks, cable networks, newspapers, etc., to counter the RW bias that's infiltrated our media.

[Motley13]

40. Speaking of Rush, the station is getting rid of him 'cause they are having trouble getting sponsors

[Dem_in_Nebr.]

42. Aww Geez ...

Breaks my heart -- NOT!

[MrScorpio]

15. There's so much wrong with that "angel-voiced children" phrase that I don't know where to begin nt

[Mr.Bill]

20. Wait until four years from now when their cadidate is Ted Nugent.

And I'm not kidding. Not one bit.

[Missn-Hitch]

34. True! I am not laughing. One of the Duck people as VP.

[Retired George]

24. True

But there'll be even less AWM four years from now.

[JoePhilly]

25. Trump is an angry ex-husband on a murder suicide mission.

[cilla4progress]

29. Wonderful editorial

Don't forget...demented...

[LeftRant]

30. I don't know what the point of the boing boing link was.

There wasn't really any content there, and then you STILL had to click through:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/opinion/burning-down-the-house.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

[Rose Siding]

31. For the rest of my life I'll judge people based on this vote.

No remorse, no forgiveness.

[Missn-Hitch]

33. Hi Rose. I am with you. I am keeping track. Unfortunately, it includes

dear friends and family.

Cheers!

[Missn-Hitch]

32. They won't just "still be there". This implies it will be like simply shooing mosquitoes.

This is very different. I read and listen to what they say. Be alert - everyone!!

[ailsagirl]

36. .....

I'm dug in for the long haul-- that God for DU

[AliceSsquare]

39. Cancel the last debate

I'm sure going through with it would only help clinton, but maybe allowing trump to smear childishness and incivility in america's face needs to stop right now. This needs to be shut down. It's only a serious election for one side of the country.

[IronLionZion]

44. You want angel voiced children?

For those who don't know, these girls are singing white power songs. Don't listen to the lyrics.

Very shitty parents raise their children to hate.

After we win this election, Trumpers will still exist. And we will have to deal with these angry hateful people as they seethe with resentment towards us and don't have much left to lose.