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applegrove

(118,485 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:39 PM Oct 2016

Is Trump Truly Crazy or Just Acting Crazy?

https://politicalwire.com/2016/10/17/trump-truly-crazy-just-acting-crazy/

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Jonathan Chait: “If you do assume that Trump is acting rationally, then it is very hard to explain his campaign moves as steps in a considered plan to get elected president, and much easier to explain them as steps toward monetizing his audience through a media empire. This theory would explain why Trump handed control of his campaign to a media mogul (Steve Bannon), why he has needlessly attacked fellow members of his party, and why he has risked demoralizing his own voters by repeatedly calling the election rigged. These are logical decisions if his end goal is to wrest the intense loyalty of a large minority of the country away from other conservative organs and center it around a media brand he can control.”

“On the other hand, it is highly plausible that these moves make no sense at all, that Trump is simply an uncontrollable madman lashing around, and perhaps the gestures toward creating a media empire reflect Kushner’s strategy rather than his own.”



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Is Trump Truly Crazy or Just Acting Crazy? (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2016 OP
Who knows what it is all about. According to business reports his hotel business is down EV_Ares Oct 2016 #1
Î worked out the numbers. 37% seems to be the percentage of people who really like Trump. applegrove Oct 2016 #4
I would not know but I think your number of 37% sounds pretty much on the money. EV_Ares Oct 2016 #6
Old Trump hotels aren't changing their name TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #21
Steve Bannon - Media Mogul? SaveOurDemocracy Oct 2016 #2
That stood out to me as well? NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #15
I halfway expect him to start telling his supporters NOT to vote The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #3
He's just Turbineguy Oct 2016 #5
Personality disorders are not insanity. People like Trump Hortensis Oct 2016 #7
I think he's cra cra lonestarnot Oct 2016 #9
I think his supporters are cra cra. What's their excuse? Hortensis Oct 2016 #13
All one big dumpster of deplorables. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #16
Sadly, at this point yes. Hortensis Oct 2016 #17
He is socially unfit. A paragon of self indulgence and delusion. Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #10
A distinction without a difference. R&K nt longship Oct 2016 #11
Trump really is unhinged. Eugene Oct 2016 #12
Who cares? An asshole is an asshole, no matter if naturally occurring or an act. apnu Oct 2016 #14
I say both.. he's still an admitted sexual predator. That wasn't Cha Oct 2016 #19
it's very easy to ascribe mental illness/profound personality disorders to ones political opponents Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #20
Not An Act RobinA Oct 2016 #22
 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
1. Who knows what it is all about. According to business reports his hotel business is down
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:41 PM
Oct 2016

dramatically & he is going to change the names of them. They will no longer be called Trump hotels but Scion hotels.

He does have Ailes & Bannon over there working for him so he has people in place to do something like that.

applegrove

(118,485 posts)
4. Î worked out the numbers. 37% seems to be the percentage of people who really like Trump.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:44 PM
Oct 2016

Last edited Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

37% of voters (people really politically involved - to be conservative in my estimates here) is 52 million people. If they spend on average $100 over their lifetimes on Trump gear, books, network, that is 5.2 Billion dollars for Trump.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
6. I would not know but I think your number of 37% sounds pretty much on the money.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:47 PM
Oct 2016

Anywhere from 35% to 37% has always seemed to be a hardcore number for the far right of the republican party.

That said, I wouldn't know how many of them would spend money on Trump products.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,137 posts)
21. Old Trump hotels aren't changing their name
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 07:13 AM
Oct 2016

"Scion" will be used for their new "hip" hotels. They'll be competing with hotels like the W, not the Waldorf.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. That stood out to me as well?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:18 PM
Oct 2016

He ran a website... my daughter ran a website when she was 10. Is she a media mogul, too?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
3. I halfway expect him to start telling his supporters NOT to vote
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
Oct 2016

because the election will be rigged so he can't win; and instead they should exercise other remedies, like their "Second Amendment rights" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). I think he's just about that unhinged.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Personality disorders are not insanity. People like Trump
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:52 PM
Oct 2016

think and react differently from the norm but are capable of recognizing reality. Actually, for a journalist like Jonathan Chait, this is an appallingly ignorance-promoting way of portraying him. People with cluster B personality disorders know they're different, but mostly they like themselves that way and aren't interested in changing.

Apparently mental health professionals believe that someone in the grip of a narcissistic "rage," (not the same as what we normally think of as rage), is not interested in thinking sensibly, and uncontrollable by others, but that is not the same as being a "madman.'

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Sadly, at this point yes.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 06:46 AM
Oct 2016

On jury duty yesterday and lunched with another person who's considering not voting this year, though. Conservative, but a woman who supports the ACA and knows that Hillary wants to address the plight of caregivers. It seems likely that, while most have committed more strongly to voting for him, some are reluctantly abandoning their hopes that they could support their party this year.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
10. He is socially unfit. A paragon of self indulgence and delusion.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:01 PM
Oct 2016

Normally, people like him are shunned by society as intolerable and someone you're warned to avoid on your first day. Donald, however, was funded endlessly by daddy's massive wealth, and we know how millions in cash buys relevance.

He's a gold spoon fed ignoramus paraded around as America's savior from the darkest presidency in history.

- - - Republicans aren't sending their best. They're sending criminals. They're sending rapists - - -

Eugene

(61,807 posts)
12. Trump really is unhinged.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:01 PM
Oct 2016

Heaven help anyone who disagrees with his inflated vision of himself.
He has been like this for years. Now the whole world is paying attention.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028236395

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/trump-files-another-woman-insulted-by-trump

Kushner is the rational actor here, but the Trump brand will be too toxic
for him to salvage much of value.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
20. it's very easy to ascribe mental illness/profound personality disorders to ones political opponents
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 07:04 AM
Oct 2016


however, in the case of that guy, I think there is DEFINITELY something wrong with his head.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
22. Not An Act
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 08:20 AM
Oct 2016

Not that nothing he does is done for effect, but his general way of doing things appears to be stable over time. Plus, it is very consistent in demonstrating a certain mindset. He's the real deal, alright.

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