2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKen Burns: Trump Camp’s Playbook ‘Is Out of the National Socialist Party in Germany’
by Josh Feldman October 21st
Historical filmmaker Ken Burns had a pretty blunt assessment of Donald Trumps campaign tactics in an interview with CNNs Christiane Amanpour this week.
I dont recognize my country anymore, he said. This is so terrifying. I think this is an existential moment for the United States of America. I think this is the greatest threat since the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Second World War for how were going to be and what kind of people we want to be.
Amanpour brought up what someone wrote about Trumps myth of rigging the election and how it may have links to German propaganda in the 30s and 40s. Burns responded thusly:
The Trump campaign istheir playbook is out of the National Socialist Party in Germany in every regard. The dog whistles of race and immigration.
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The far right has taken the nation down the rabbit hole of an alternate reality, where up is down, false is true, and a Mad Hairpiece is serving up a tea of mass delusion, switching positions all the time, making offensive personal remarks, and reciting nonsensical word salads.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Aha!
Martin Eden
(12,847 posts)Rigged = the media plays tapes of Donald Trump in his own words.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The only thing he's not saying is rigged are his GrOPer hands.
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)FIFY
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
LAS14
(13,769 posts)AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)democrank
(11,085 posts)All Trump`s enabling political supporters need to be held accountable for their winks, nods and willful lack of courage. What they were willing to do to this country for a perceived "win" is truly frightening.
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)blue-wave
(4,344 posts)We all need to be aware of this and inform others. I've replied in other posts with Steve Schmidt's comment that what happened in Germany in the 1930's was not because Fascism was strong, but because democracy was weak. Let's do all we can so this does not happen again.
treestar
(82,383 posts)continually talking about it just because the Donald said it. There is nothing to back it up at all - are there any talking heads discussing that?
lark
(23,065 posts)when he talks about the shadowy power of the big banks (read rich Jews). No wonder anti-semitic threats are increasing at such a pace, he's egging them on, and doing it totally deliberately.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)and so should everyone!
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)spike jones
(1,676 posts)Trump's rhetoric is often compared to that of the rise of Hitler, but it is actually closer to home than that. George Wallace used the same type language in his rise to power and after, often talking directly to the Klan about the Blacks.
Just before the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church that killed four black girls (Addie Mae Collins, Carole Robertson, Cynthia Westley, Denise McNair) Wallace said this.
" What this country needs is a few first-class funerals," Wallace said," and some polical funerals, too."..
As noted in "The Lynching" by Laurence Leamer:
"Wallace enjoyed provoking his enemies, spewing rhetoric rarely heard in public life. In the end he always backed off, but in toying with words, he toyed with human lives. Words were action, and when he provoked people to do their fearful deeds, he was as much morally responsible as if he had struck the blow. planted the bomb, or shot the bullet."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Welcome to DU.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Definitely
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)I thought she was going to finish the thought: we'd have to have this huge law enforcement force rounding people up in their homes and in schools, at work and in the streets; we'd be loading them in busses and on trains.
They tried that once and it led to disaster (a proper use of Trump's favorite overused word). It was called Nazi Germany.
Why did she stop short?
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)I wish she had because we all already know she is more presidential.
She could really "tell it like it is" and not put a dent in her armor.
elmac
(4,642 posts)Trump is dragging this country through mud daily with his spoiled brat antics.
gordianot
(15,234 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)until there were.
We need to remember that just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it's not on it's way to happening.
niyad
(113,074 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:00 PM - Edit history (1)
be vigilant to repudiate, as decent human beings, the hate this psychopath has brought into the open. . Many, many people living, born and raised here in america would love their own 21st century hitler. That is the most obvious point proved to me by this election season. And I still can't get it out of my memory how people were laughing at this dangerous psychopath during primary season saying he had no chance. This was the same thing that was said about "that little Austrian corporal".
I was not surprised. American society/citizenry has ALWAYS had a very hateful, mean and racist streak, citizenwise. Well I have had no problem returning the hate to people who are obvious trumpenfuhrer supporters with disdain and derision, openly, if they don't listen to their own heart and conscience. Very mean civil society these days and the whole world is watching. I think there will be fallout about our society and its presidential choices for quite a long time to come after this election.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Trump promises to use first 100 day as POTUS (lol) to exact personal revenge. #TrumpGettysburgAddress #TrumpTrain #ThatsOurTyrant
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/789869856690692097
Trump promises to sue the women who have accused him: "All of these liars will be sued after the election is over."
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)and Doris Kearns Goodwin are on my list of great historians. There is a rumour that Ms. Goodwin had an affair with LBJ. If true, I forgive her for being a young woman. If not true, she should sue the website claiming this.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Funny this came up, I just got his series on the Roosevelts and am going through it.
These alt right movements start with propoganda and misinformation...to get enough people to blame the wrong culprit for their woes. It is really the MI complex and the gilded set, the Banksters, etc but not when you listen to FOX and Rush, etc.. They work to convince you it is immigrants and a bevy of Welfare Queens.
We are at a crossroad to be sure. The good news is that young folks are turning away from cable, harder to brainwash.
Hillary is going to win. Then we'll see what happens after that.