2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAll this talk about Trump supporters revolting after election reminds me of
how I felt when W and KkkRove and their cabal stole the election in 2004 by using an electronic election system that lacked an ability to audit and therefore was not transparent and therefore not democratic. I was devastated. I worked the polls that year and on election night I stayed up as late as I could watching the results but I was tired and dozed off around 1:30 AM and when I woke up around 3:30 or 4 all of the sudden W was the winner. I wailed like a weeping woman. I was terrified and furious. Somehow, no doubt by some Divine miracle, I managed not to resort to violence, or destruction of property, or to start a revolution.
I had to endure, as did many people who felt the same way I did, another 4 years of that horrid W and Darth Cheney and their cabal. And, unlike the 8 years of President Obama and VP Joe Biden, their was NO progress for America during the 8 years of Bush the lesser and there were plenty of scandals, plus an illegal war, and millions of missing (i.e. Intentionally Deleted) emails and dollars. My motto has always been, "Don't vote for the son of a Bush!" I know. I am from Texas and lived what W did to Texas before he was selected by the "Supreme" Court in 2000.
Can Americans put country before party? Will our deep divisions rip us apart? Are we a country of laws? Do we honor our American history and our traditions? Do we uphold our Democratic Process? How do we begin to mend the rended fabric of our Nation?
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)If Kerry hadn't been cheated in '04, and been allowed to take office, he would have surely inherited the Bush collapse - which was already very much in the works on account of the derivatives bubble.
Kerry would have worked mightily to mitigate it, I'm sure; but without a Democratic Congress, he wouldn't have been able to do much. We might have left Iraq a lot sooner, and that's certainly a plus - but there again: with the crisis that was already set to explode around 2007, he would have surely been defeated for reelection, and God only knows what would have become of us if a Rethug had taken office in '09.
The same thing, but in a different context of course, can be said of Mike Dukakis, who would have surely gone down in '92 amid the S&L crisis and Reagan bubble wind-down.
These are all hypotheticals, I realize. But as always: timing is everything.
That said, it's good to be a Democrat this year.
AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)very good to be a Democrat now. I mean it is always good to be a Democrat but it is really great that external circumstances are extremely different that the political climates of years past.
Wounded Bear
(58,437 posts)I hope they don't rebel, too.
AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)They are revolting just like him. I judge no "deplorable" lol
heaven05
(18,124 posts)a trump administration. I felt the same way and had the same suspicions especially when I found out Rove and W flew into Ohio when they perceived some kind of problem with W losing Ohio at that time. Then all the sudden, with the type of voting machines mentioned, won. I was livid. First Florida, then Ohio. That, to me, was rigged. At least this election the popular vote won't be close at all. Even with the greedy media still trying to make trumpenfuhrer a viable contender. He will be a nobody when decent americans speak on November 8.
AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)know that we both know other Americans who felt like we did...thankfully. I found DU the day of or after that 2004 "election" and I was thrilled people here were focusing on and analyzing this voting issue. I participated in my first political protest march in Austin TX shortly afterward. I will never forget Kenneth Blackwell and people like him who made that whole fiasco possible. To this day, in every time I vote I am suspicious something I never experienced before 2000 and 2004.